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Title: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: junket on Thursday 09 November 06 11:27 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I am looking for info., on the Wheeler family.

George Wheeler born 1822, England, died 4 1 1904, Oshawa.
married Philippa  Inch, 24 4 1859,
children
Cornelius.....no info, only name
Richard Inch Wheeler, 1860. Oshawa, died 14 5 1908,  E Whitby.
Emma c 1861, Oshawa
Charlotte c 1863, married  (?) Hastings, 30 6 1881

All the info., I have to go on I am afraid, would like to find more.

Thanks

junket
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: KarenM on Thursday 09 November 06 13:46 GMT (UK)
Marriage Registration for:

Cornelus George Wheeler
Age:  21
Bachelor
Residence when Married:  Oshawa
Place of Birth:  Oshawa
Occupation:  Brickmaker
Parents:  George Wheeler and Phillipa Wheeler

Emma Gilbey
Age:  27
Spinster
Residence when Married:  Oshawa
Place of Birth:  England
Parents:  Henry Gilbey and Emma Gilbey

Names of Witnessess:  Edith Washington and Ethel Washington, Port Perry, Ontario

Date and Place of Marriage:  November 23, 1886 Port Perry, Ontario
Religion of Groom:  Methodist
Religion of Bride:  Church of England
By Whom Married:  W.E. Washington
License
Reg. No. 008539

Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: junket on Thursday 09 November 06 14:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Karen,

Have pm'd you.

Thanks for this info., I always worry, when there is a name and no other info., if this person died.  ( He is the grandson of Prudence ) Happily Cornelius did not.

Married by Washington and witnesses, Washington, family of the official ?

Many thanks, much appreciated.

junket
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: jorose on Thursday 09 November 06 16:32 GMT (UK)
You can see the 1901 census indexed at www.automatedgenealogy.com, they are in Oshawa

By that point alone in the household, but George is listed as emigrating 1844 and Phillipa as emigrating 1839, did they marry in Canada then?

Also in 1901 in Oshawa are Thomas Hastings and wife 'Charlott F', along with son Wallace.

Have you seen the 1881 census? Richard, Emma, Charlotte and Cornelius are all in the household, but so is a Flora Wheeler, aged 4 - another child of theirs, or a niece perhaps?

I also think I've found the Washingtons in 1881 - living in Prince Edward county, Ontario, William Washington, methodist minister, with wife Catherine and daughters Edith E and Ethel A (also other children).

http://genforum.genealogy.com/gilbey/messages/2.html - something interesting about Emma!  Says her and Cornelus are buried in Alberta, also.

This is very bizarre though - I looked for Emma in 1881, and found a possible - a widowed Emma 'Patula' (could be the 'Patnoe' of the message, badly indexed), with a young son George, but the family she's living with include John and Emma Inch.

In 1901, 'Con Wheeler' and wife (indexed as 'Emmas' for some bizarre reason) and children are in Alberta.

http://www.ogs.on.ca/ogspi/9/o101d100.htm - 1891 census for this family is here.
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: junket on Thursday 09 November 06 17:11 GMT (UK)
Hi Jorose,

Brilliant thank you, I will study this later, I have unexpected guests coming and have to get their room ready, first.

I have seen the name PATULa before somewhere, on a census I think. 

John and Emma Inch, could be her uncle and aunt.

Thank you very much, i appreciate your help.  junket
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: junket on Thursday 09 November 06 21:54 GMT (UK)
Hi Jorose, / Karen / everyone,,

I have found the names PATULA, they are on the 1861 census apparently. I have found a note about them,  (but no indication of who they are , or how they fit into the family)

John Inch 46
Emma Inch 45

Emma PATULaA widow 24, born England
Julia PATULA 20 born Ontario
George PATULa, born Jan 3/12

In OShawa, Ontario S, Ontario, canada.
D 132
SD E
DIV 2
P 39
Household No. 209

Are you able to give me the link, please ?

Porr Emma, a widow at 24, with a young baby and Julia aged 20, no idea where / how she fits in.

I have e-mailed the person on the Gen. forum , but the posting, is an old one, so I do not hold much  hope of a reply.

Thanks

junket
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: J.J. on Thursday 09 November 06 22:15 GMT (UK)
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/ont83.htm
Marriage of James Boyd FINNIE & Emma Wheeler in 1883

Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: J.J. on Thursday 09 November 06 22:20 GMT (UK)
Thomas HASTINGS, also a moulder, married Charlotte in 1881
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/brant81.htm
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: J.J. on Thursday 09 November 06 22:26 GMT (UK)
Here's Flora Wheeler, and it seems connections to much of what you are looking for...!!! ( just hit the hot link on Flora..)
I see Silas Inch and Runnalls on the page....
I have seen this connection before ..was it for you junket ??
http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/rpafg14.htm#285
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: junket on Thursday 09 November 06 23:23 GMT (UK)
Hi jj,

Yes, I am back !!!  Those Inchs and Runnalls are hiding again.  I have had more notes given to me and more loose ends to tie up.

Thanks for all your help once again.  It is bedtime here , but I will be up early to check all your links tomorrow.

Thanks again.

junket
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: J.J. on Friday 10 November 06 00:59 GMT (UK)
You have the marriage date beside Phillipa... You likely have the birth
The IGI has a submission for birth June 3, 1834   Blisland, Cornwall


Richard Inch Wheeler-  Baptism in Whitby /  Wes. meth.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wjmartin/wm-w_59.htm

George, listed as a labourer, with 3 other Wheelers in Oshawa
CONNER & COLTSON'S DIRECTORY 1869-7O
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wjmartin/ontario.htm

Why is this another family not on the 1851?!! How frustrating!
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/DisplayPagePanb.jsp?id=97272&highlight=30
Another Inch researcher....http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/CORNISH-GEN/2000-04/0955098526
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: Janice M on Friday 10 November 06 05:11 GMT (UK)
It looks as though some "Wheeler's" lived in the Pickering and Ajax area. Here is a site that mentions some in later years.

http://www.pada.ca/

Here are more Wheeler's in 1891

http://www.ogs.on.ca/ogspi/9/o101a300.htm

Oshawa Canada Directory
November 1851


http://tinyurl.com/ykotjj

Cemetery listings (using Durham Region)
http://www.islandnet.com/cgi-bin/ms2/jveinot/search

Oshawa Union, North Presbyterian, Section D
http://www.rootsweb.com/~onwob22/cemeteries/oshunion.htm

Listings and Maps of Cemeteries of Durham
http://www.rootsweb.com/~onwob22/cemeteries/durhamap.htm


Janice
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: Janice M on Friday 10 November 06 05:34 GMT (UK)
Here is a link that has books online that you can search through.

Ontario County
Wheeler family is mentioned on 8 separate pages.
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=4921

A Town Called Ajax
One photo
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=6200

On the Shores of Scugog
One reference
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=6276

Memories and milestones : Springwater & districts
One reference
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=3135


Janice
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: Janice M on Friday 10 November 06 05:44 GMT (UK)
Could this be yours?

Philippa Inch - Cornwall
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/40145b.html

Janice
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: junket on Friday 10 November 06 06:58 GMT (UK)
 ;D

Blimey

I wake up and find all of this !!!

Thank you so much Janice and JJ,

I have taken q very qucik look down through, but had to stop and thank you.

I have contact with Kenneth b, he is a 'cousin', in OZ., through the Inch line.  His ggg grandfather ( Paul Inch ) and ny gggg grandmother ( Philippa Inch ) were brother and sister. ( there were 12 children in total ........yes 12 Inchs !!!!!!)

I have 14 pages of the descendency of his line, but only 18 lines on the descendency of the Silas Inch ( another of the 12 ) descendency, hence the postings.....I am trying to find with your generous help, more about Silas and his family, in Canada.  Philippa is one of his daughters, the Wheeler children, his grandchildren.

I am going to visit the links and search for them now.

A very big thank you, I really appreciate your help and cannot thank you enough.

junket

Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: junket on Friday 10 November 06 12:07 GMT (UK)
hi,

Can you confirm or correct me with Reeve.....is this a chief magistrate ?

thanks

junket
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: J.J. on Friday 10 November 06 21:07 GMT (UK)
Meant to post  the url for the 1851...Just in case there are others you want to find on it... Only free for a little while longer....Left hot link gives info....right one to the image...You'll need to use some of the info to find the second part of the image....( note that what they call page number is in brackets to take you to personal information, and you need to look at the next number for the detailed census info)
http://content.ancestry.ca/iexec/default.aspx?htx=List&dbid=1061&o_iid=27113&o_lid=27113&o_it=27113

Images:
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1851/001005-100.01-e.html
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: Janice M on Friday 10 November 06 21:24 GMT (UK)
In answer to your question.
The mayor is the leader in most Canadian towns and cities. Some provinces still use the title of "Reeve" for the elected leader of a village, township or a rural municipality. They hold the same type of position as that of "Mayor".

Scugog Heritage
(On this site, they spelled the name as "Wheler")
http://www.scugogheritage.com/timelines/1870-1879.htm
http://www.scugogheritage.com/timelines/1860-1869.htm

Town of Uxbridge
http://www.uxbridge.com/town/uxhist.html

Uxbridge Libarary
http://www.uxlib.com/history.html

CONNER & COLTSON'S DIRECTORY 1869-7O
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wjmartin/ontario.htm

There is a "D. Wheeler" who is involved with Regional Council for Durham Region in the town of Georgina. As Georgina is not that far from Uxbridge, you may want to get in touch with this person to see if they can shed any light on your family. (I would hurry though, the election is on Monday November 13th.)

http://www.region.durham.on.ca

This may not have anything to do with your family, but I through it in here just in case.
http://www.bytown.net/timesott.htm

Oshawa Public Library
http://www.oshawalibrary.on.ca/
http://localhistory.oshawalibrary.ca/

Janice
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: Janice M on Friday 10 November 06 21:30 GMT (UK)
Here is another link.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/about/people/key/bio.asp?Language=E&query=6381&s=M

Janice
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: suemason on Tuesday 26 January 10 21:03 GMT (UK)
Hi Junket

my name is Suzanne Wheeler Mason

my father was Richard Garfield Wheeler

the family line that you are investigating is also my family line.

Please contact me for more info


Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: Page stuart on Sunday 08 January 17 18:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Karen,

Have pm'd you.

Thanks for this info., I always worry, when there is a name and no other info., if this person died.  ( He is the grandson of Prudence ) Happily Cornelius did not.

Married by Washington and witnesses, Washington, family of the official ?

Many thanks, much appreciated.

junket

Hi,
Apologies that I am not well versed in this chat system. I am of the patnoe/gilbey line and Have a connection with Cornelius wheeler as well (he was a step ggrandfather), and live in Alberta Canada. I have significant oral history and would be pleased to add clarity where I can.

Warm regards,
Page
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 08 January 17 18:15 GMT (UK)
Hi

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Sandra
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: Page stuart on Sunday 08 January 17 18:31 GMT (UK)
Hi thanks Sandra; i removed my email, is it ok now?
Page
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: Page stuart on Sunday 08 January 17 18:49 GMT (UK)
Hi I have a connection to this family, as a gilbey, patnoe connection and I know of the wheelers as well to a limited extent,
Page
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 08 January 17 19:12 GMT (UK)
Now you have 3 posts you can send a personal message to junket by clicking on her avatar - on the next screen click  send pm - this brings up the message screen where you can send your message and  have your private conversation.  Unfortunately Sue has not been back on line sine 2011 and only has 1 post so you wouldn't be able to contact her.

Hope this helps a little
Sandra
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: Page stuart on Sunday 08 January 17 19:29 GMT (UK)
Thank you!
Title: Re: OSHAWA / WHITBY, WHEELER FAMILY
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 08 January 17 19:33 GMT (UK)
No prob - good luck.

Sandra  ;)