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Title: Badly water damaged photo to fix up if anybody can ............. please
Post by: casalguidi on Friday 10 November 06 13:30 GMT (UK)
Help please!

I have a photo that I would like to post on this board, have scanned it at 300 dpi but is 2.95 mb (1520 x 2288 pixels).  It's a large photo with a lot of damage so I wanted to try and keep it as accurate as possible hence the 300 dpi as I often see posts requesting people to scan at this level

Now what do I do ???

Casalguidi :)
Title: Re: My photo is too large to post
Post by: Arranroots on Friday 10 November 06 14:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Casa

Have you got Irfanview or another image program?

Irfanview is free to download and you can easily resize the photo, using either the number of pixels, the file size, the dimensions or as a percentage of the whole.  I usually resize to about 60%, keeping the ratio the same, so that it doesn't come out tall & thin!

Open file

Image - resize/ resample

Choose one from the options below:

a) Set new size

b) pixels/ cm/ inches

c) As a percentage of original

Preserve aspect ratio (tick)



I will look up where to find Irfanview if that helps?

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)

Title: Re: My photo is too large to post
Post by: casalguidi on Friday 10 November 06 14:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Arranroots

No, I don't have infranview but I do have an image program so can easily reduce the pixel size.  Will that not reduce the clarity though - I'm not "up" on these things ???

Casalguidi :)
Title: Re: My photo is too large to post
Post by: Arranroots on Friday 10 November 06 14:25 GMT (UK)
I see what you mean - I confess I am not certain, but I don;t think so.

Better wait for the experts!!  :-[

A  ;)

Title: Re: My photo is too large to post
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Friday 10 November 06 14:54 GMT (UK)
Hi there, to make pictures smaller this is what you do. First bring up picture, and then right click on it. It comes up with a list of things you can click on. They are as follows.

Preview
Edit
Print
Refresh thumbnail
Now click on edit. It now opens a new window for you. Paint shop I think it’s called.
On the top line it has a list of things you can do. From left to right they are.
File,   Edit,   View,   Image,   Colors,    Help

Click on Image, which will give you a drop down menu of
Flip/rotate
Stretch/skew
Invert/colors
Attributes
Clean image
Draw opaque

Now click onstretch/skew. You will see a box with
Horizontal on it ,it will have a number 100 in it click on it and make it 50.
Just below this there is a box with vertical on it and a number 100 on it click on it and make it 50.
Then click, OK button. This will shut that bit and reopen paint window. Now click on close of paint shop. It will ask you if you want to . change, click yes ok.

This should have now made your picture 50% smaller , so should be able to send it ,if it is still to big do all this again ok and it will come out 50% smaller again .  ok I think you will get the hang of it now .You know if you have made it small enough because it will go on page. After you get the hang of it, play about with the numbers you change it by then so you can get as big a picture as possible. Ok 
 
Right last few things now. First of all, print this out so you can read this as you go a long ok. Second and last, just before you save picture, change original pictures file name. so you have one new picture and one original size . good luck and let me know how you get on. migky
Title: Re: My photo is too large to post
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 10 November 06 16:16 GMT (UK)
Isnt it now 25% of the original size - I'm no expert, but reducing a square by 50% each side results in an area only 25% of the size originally - unless its all to do with pixels, which loses me  ;)
Title: Re: My photo is too large to post
Post by: newbie on Friday 10 November 06 16:50 GMT (UK)
Casalguidi
try this link, it has some useful info on posting images
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,130922.0.html
newbie
Title: Re: My photo is too large to post
Post by: Tati on Friday 10 November 06 16:54 GMT (UK)
And just in case ... don't forget to save the new picture under a new name, Casalguidi  ;D
Title: Re: My photo is too large to post
Post by: casalguidi on Friday 10 November 06 17:09 GMT (UK)
Thanks everyone - I am currently engaging some help ;D

Casalguidi
Title: Re: My photo is too large to post
Post by: newbie on Friday 10 November 06 17:18 GMT (UK)
I think you just have to resize as you would normally do, I use Photoshop,
select image - resize and try reducing either by % or pixel size, remembering the limit on posting image size on the board (is it 500kb?) as long as you have scanned at at least 300dpi there should be no problem.
Newbie
Title: Re: My photo is too large to post
Post by: newbie on Friday 10 November 06 17:22 GMT (UK)
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Quote
Re compression ..... using compression, no matter the dpi of the original may be the difference between uploading your image or not.

The same photograph scanned
at 300 dpi with no compression - 1.5 Mb
at 600 dpi with 50% compression 192 Kb
.... on screen there is no perceptible difference between the two images.

One thing that you have to remember though is that with a lossy compression such as jpeg's each time you alter and then save the image as a jpeg the compression routine kicks in.


that was from Falkryn, on a post from Keith Bateman, "Not trying to be awkward but"
if you check out the size of some of the images that have been posted that may help,
Newbie

Added:  just seen it!  ;D  looks good
Title: Re: My photo is too large to post
Post by: Biker on Friday 10 November 06 17:28 GMT (UK)
Hello

I've posted the image on behalf of Casalguidi at the top post - I'm no photo restoration expert but have tried to make the best possible quality within the upload restrictions.

Hope that is ok to work with, if not let me know and I'll fiddle with it as required and re-post it  ;D

p.s. just saw your post newbie - glad that is ok!

Cheers
Biker
Title: Re: My photo is too large to post
Post by: casalguidi on Friday 10 November 06 18:05 GMT (UK)
Just while I have a quick five minutes ...................... that's great ;D

As you can see, it is badly water damaged so any attempts to fix it up would be greatly appreciated.

The colouring was done by the "photographer" - quite badly by the looks of it but I'm not worried about that because that's how it was before it got damaged.  Also, the "blacked out" eye of the lady, I assume, is supposed to be like that because she lost her eye during the war and this was taken afterwards.

Casalguidi :)
Title: Re: Badly water damaged photo to fix up if anybody can ............. please
Post by: Polldoll on Friday 10 November 06 21:17 GMT (UK)
Here you are .. 3  versions ...    tough one this !!! :-[ :-\
These are all smaller to fit on here ...pm me if you need the larger versions emailing to you ... they are too big to post! :(

Polly....    with a squint now !!!  ;D ;)
Sepia version
I don't think the lady's eye had been deliberately blacked out ... all I did was lighten the mark and this appeared ...so maybe she had a glass eye ?
Title: Re: Badly water damaged photo to fix up if anybody can ............. please
Post by: Polldoll on Friday 10 November 06 21:19 GMT (UK)
Black and white  version
Title: Re: Badly water damaged photo to fix up if anybody can ............. please
Post by: PrueM on Friday 10 November 06 21:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Casalguidi  :)
Even though Poll has already had a very good go at this poor old photo, I'm making an attempt too...it will take me a while though  :-\  I'll see how I go!  ;) ;D
Prue
Title: Re: Badly water damaged photo to fix up if anybody can ............. please
Post by: Polldoll on Friday 10 November 06 21:21 GMT (UK)
and the original colours ... ps I haven't framed them but will use a plain mount if required! Cheers
 Best I can do without spending a week on it ! ;) ;D

Polly :)
Title: Re: Badly water damaged photo to fix up if anybody can ............. please
Post by: Polldoll on Friday 10 November 06 21:24 GMT (UK)
It's a tough one innit Prue??? ::) :o :-\
Title: Re: Badly water damaged photo to fix up if anybody can ............. please
Post by: Gadget on Friday 10 November 06 21:27 GMT (UK)
Pol

Just seen this thread - you're doing great so far. It's a toughie.

I'd have a go but you know about my eye restrictions. I'll download but it could take a while.

Gadget

Title: Re: Badly water damaged photo to fix up if anybody can ............. please
Post by: Polldoll on Friday 10 November 06 21:33 GMT (UK)
Thanks Gadget ... I  will have another go ... to be frank I  rushed the part of the woman and the girl  ( as you can tell ! :-[) having spent God knows how long on the chap with the pigeon.  Eyes need a rest I think .... and knowing what I know now about eyes ,... I  ;)  think I'll take the hint and come back to this one ...

Poll
Title: Re: Badly water damaged photo to fix up if anybody can ............. please
Post by: Polldoll on Friday 10 November 06 21:37 GMT (UK)

You're right ...it could take a while ... think it's one I shall have to keep coming back to ...
Pol
Title: Re: Badly water damaged photo to fix up if anybody can ............. please
Post by: casalguidi on Friday 10 November 06 22:16 GMT (UK)
I'm really excited about all the interest as it is a very precious photograph to me (my gt grandfather was from Romany stock) even though it is in such a sorry state

I do realise just how much hard work putting it right involves so am very grateful for your efforts - they're looking great Poll :-*

Casalguidi :)
Title: Re: Badly water damaged photo to fix up if anybody can ............. please
Post by: Polldoll on Friday 10 November 06 22:31 GMT (UK)
He was  obviously an avid pigeon fancier ...! There were what looked like 2 or 3 pigeons fluttering their wings on the right hand side of the shot < probably the noise of the shutter on the camera startled them .. I took the liberty of
 "painting " them out !   They were very blurred anyway  :P and I had enough trouble restoring the one that was standing ( well...sitting ) still  anyway !! ;) ;D ;D

Poll
Title: Re: Badly water damaged photo to fix up if anybody can ............. please
Post by: Polldoll on Saturday 11 November 06 00:32 GMT (UK)
I know you didn't ask for this ...but I just couldn't resist cropping him on his own....
Pol
Title: Re: Badly water damaged photo to fix up if anybody can ............. please
Post by: cazza59 on Sunday 12 November 06 09:16 GMT (UK)
Thought I might as well stick my beak in too (beak...pigeon...get it ???   ;D ;D ;D  ::) )

Anyway, here's my interpretation.

Cazza
Title: Re: Badly water damaged photo to fix up if anybody can ............. please
Post by: casalguidi on Sunday 12 November 06 10:20 GMT (UK)
 ;D

All attempts and contributions very gratefully received .............. thankyou very much :)

Casalguidi
Title: Re: Badly water damaged photo to fix up if anybody can ............. please
Post by: stephen7 on Friday 17 November 06 04:56 GMT (UK)
hi all,
just read this, and i'm amazed at what you wonderful people have done with it ( shouldn't be as you have sorted many of my photos for me)to an amatuer like me, this photo was beyond redemption, you have proved me wrong, keep up the good work. and a big thank you from everyone
steve