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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Argyllshire => Topic started by: Tricia MORE on Wednesday 15 November 06 13:30 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone help with Kilmun burials.
Is there a book.
Looking for JOHNSTON family
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I dont know if there has been any transcriptions done at kilmun to my knowledge very few cemeteries in the area have been recorded but if you contact the museum details on this link and put it for aattention John Stirling http://www.castlehousemuseum.org.uk/index.html
also the link for the Argyll and bute council archives
http://www.argyll-bute.gov.uk/content/leisure/localhistory/introductiontoarchives?s=2062085
they will be able to help although i have been told they are not the best at replying , just keep at them.
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my relatives the Gibb family lived in kilmun in the 1800's. Going there soon to try and trace them. should I head for the church or the records office in Lochgilphead?
They were boat builders and farmers.
Robert Gibb(b 1844) was married to Christina McVicar from Garelochead.
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As far as I know all the records are at Lochgilpead, but if you contact them they would be able to tell you if there are any records locally
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Am able to assist with details of those who have memorials there.
There are a few for Johnston families so more detail would be useful.
Castle House Museum
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Hi Museum Man
I too am interested in Kilmun Churchyard! I am trying to find out if my Alexander Douglas a Master Mariner is buried at Kilmun. He died in Gourock on 22nd February 1870 aged 39 years. I do know his mother Janet Douglas nee Whyte died March 29th 1859 and maybe his father Neil Douglas are buried at Kilmun Churchyard! Any info would be most appreciated.
Kind regards
Yvonne
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Hi Museum Man Nice to see you here Just wondered if you re located
at castle house museum
Sybil
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Wonoona I have looked and found only the following ..
All Douglas . Annie Neal, Christna, Duncan, Elizabeth, Elizabeth Penelope Arthur, Gilbert, Hugh, Isabella, John, Margaret, William and
Neil But only the following
"This is the burying place of Neill Douglas and Margaret Turner, spouse and their children 1804"
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Museum Man
Many many thanks for looking for my Douglas's. Maybe there is no memorial for any of them. The death certificate of Janet Douglas nee Whyte states she is buried in the Churchyard of Kilmun by the then undertaker. Would Kilmun Parish Churchyard be a different cemetery I wonder? Her husband was Neil or Neal Douglas a Ferryman. I shall keep on looking as they say!
Kind Regards
Yvonne
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Yes - Kilmun Monumental Inscriptions by Jean Maskell
published by Scottish Genealogy Soc, 15 Victoria Terrace, Edinburgh EH1 2JL
I have a copy of the book. Only entries under Johnston are Andrew, and William Low although there are several under Johnstone and two under Johnson. Can give you full details on any you're interested in
AScot
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Wonoona
Re your query on Douglas family
The Monumental Inscriptions Book for Kilmun has no listing for Neil & Janet or or either of their sons. There is however an entry for Neil's father , Duncan 1767-1827 - his grave is at plot 6 section C with the inscription" To his memory this is inscribed by Janet Bell his spouse.
Another piece you may be interested in - did you know that Janet Whyte/ Douglas was convicted of theft in 1854 and served 29 days in Inverary Jail? - full details on the Inverary Jail site.
I'm also into Douglas and Whyte, McCaul and Ferguson so perhaps we could share info on any of them.
Best wishes
AScot
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AScot
Many thanks for the info you have posted on my Douglas's! Yes I had found out Janet had served time in Inverary Jail for theft of a brooch and her younest son Archie was let off! That Inverary Jail website if most interesting. Certainly if I can help with any info do get in touch and I will share willingly!
Kind Regards
Yvonne
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Yvonne
Thanks for the reply. My family history leads to the Fergusons, and the connection with the Douglas family is, to say the least, distant - Janet Whyte's father Duncan was brother of Alexander Whyte 1776-1867 and Alexander's daughter, Mary Whyte 1806-1881 was married to Duncan Ferguson 1802-1870 and that's it although I have most of the info on the Whyte dynasty.
I see you have Neil Douglas's occupation as ferryman. If that was the case he was almost certainly working for the Fergusons who operated the ferries between Strone, Kilmun and Hunters Quay. My record has Neil as Posmaster at Kilmun Post Office in 1841 - also owned by the Fergusons.
What I don't have on the Whyte/Douglas connection is when Neil died and what became of daughter Janet. Perhaps you could fill in the blanks. Let me know if there's anyone else you'd like me to look up in the Kilmun Monumental Inscriptions book.
Best wishes
Alan
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Alan
Thanks for info - I have sent you an instant message, so hopefully that will help.
Regards
Yvonne
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Kilmun Church is open for visitors several times a week. Possibly only during the summer. We were there in JUly. They have a list of people buried in the church yard and a corresponding map of grave sites. The guides are very helpful and also serve tea and scones!
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Museum Man 2
You may be able to help me. I am looking for a cemetery inscription for Alexander Grierson.
He was in Dunoon 1851 census, not registered in 1861, so I presume he died 1851-1861, and most likely buried in Dunoon. There is a reference that he was a monumental mason.
In 1861 census his wife Helen Grieson and mother in law Margaret McKellar were in Kilmun, so there may be a death for Helen Grieson recorded in Kilmun .
Wyanga
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Sorry. I could not find any trace of the Griersons in Kilmun Cemetery. Closest I came was reference to Margaret McKellar daughter of John McKellar.
Main cemetery for Dunoon & Kilmun District is actually in Dunoon. I do not hold any records for that cemetery.
Enquiries can be made with Argyll & Bute District Council at Milton House Dunoon. There is a charge of around £18 for the service!
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Museum Man 2
Thank you for looking at Kilmun for me. Dunoon is definately a possibility for Alexander Grierson. I will have to follow it up.
Wyanga
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Hi I live in Dunoon and was at Kilmun Churchyard at the weekend Have genral photos of the churchyard ,
a few inscriptions , will look and see what is there but will be up there again, in the near future
Sybil
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Prophetess
Thank you if you could have a look for me next time. I have a death date for Helen Grierson of 1862 . She may have been buried under her maiden name of Helen McKellar. Alexander Grierson appears to have died between 1851 and 1861.
Museum man has sorted me out on the likely location of their census records as being Barnacabar, which is very close to Kilmun, so a buriel there could be likely. In the 1861 census Helen gave her birthplace as Glenfinart, so it all fits as being that area.
He also indicated that his records for Kilmun cemetery only showed a Margaret McKellar, see an earlier post
Wyanga
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Thought you may like to see the churchyard , well part of it
Sybil
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Prophetess
Thank you Sybil, the cemetery appears to be in a lovely spot. Somewhere I saw a reference that they had a list of burials contained in the cemetery, at Kilmun.
This may be a listing of inscriptions, as against a list of buriels. Some of the very poor most likely could not aford a headstone.
Wyanga
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I apologise if I have not answered anyone in this topic but I am here now.
any Charles Johnston would be a start and I do realize that it may well be Johnstone or Johnson.
One Charles my gx3 g'father died 1857 in Kirn. he married x 2 - his first wife Margaret Scrimgeour died bef 1809 and second Elizabeth McKeller died 1864(daug of John McKellar and Mary Whyte).
This family with various members remained in Dunoon.
inc Gilbert b1818, John b 1811 and Duncan 1806- 1874.
There were several female johnston.
Any help.
PS my earliest JOHNSTON in Dunoon is Charles who arrived there c 1804 from E.Lothian via Greenock.
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Visited Dunoon and Kirn in July.
found my Duncan Johnston (my gx2 gt uncle) 1806 -1874 and some of his family.
Great.
Took some other Johnston pics just in case - yet to check. Wish I had more time when there.
Thanks also to Museum Man for his wonderful help whilst there.
"MM I did email you but will send again a basic one"
Tricia (Barnett)
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Ref: Kilmun Monumental Inscriptions
I was thinking of buying the book listing the Kilmun Monumental Inscriptions, but am interested to know if it contains any monument inscriptions for Fraser, McGibbon, or Weir names.
Thanks in advance to anyone who has the book and can check for me.
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2 Frasers, NIL McGibbons, 21 Weirs
Can check further quite easily if you give names.
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Thank you museum man 2 for the reply and offer.
The problem is, I don't know which of my 100s of Fraser and Weir relatives are buried in Kilmun. I only have a list of those born there.
My intention was to go through the book, or at least a list, to look at names and dates and see if they fit.
I'll pm my birth's list to you anyway on the offchance some might be buried there.
Thanks again.
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I am trying to find the graves of my great grandmother - KERR, Charlotte Campbell nee Grandison (death registered in Dunoon on 7th November, 1932 and my great Aunt - KERR, Anne Victoria Colquhoun (death registered in Dunoon on 16th July, 1982)
My great Aunt (and her 2 sisters Elanor and Charlotte - all retired school teachers) lived in a house called "Ferngrove" in KILMUN for their retirement, and as their deaths were registered in Dunoon, I have to believe they are buried in Kilmun or close to it.
I am leaving Australia in 2 weeks to travel to Kilmun to see if I can find their gravesites - to date I have tried the Argyll Bute Council, they don't have cemetery records, and my system is having problems downloading anything from ScotlandsPeople. Has anyone any advice on how I can find out for me - really would be appreciated.
Surfbeach
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Hi Surfbeach
I haven't been in rootschat much lately but seen you post today just last week I was talking to someone who has recorded the graves in the old section and is going to be starting on the new section of Kilmun Cemetery,
So should be able to get some help there for you, Will send you a PM
Sybil
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Hi,
We will be in Kilmun early June, if my family (Kerr) are not there I will have to look at the other cemeteries in the Dunoon area too. My Great Grandfather was a Minister in the Church of Scotland in Shapinsay, in the Orkneys, after he died in 1908, I believe the Church of Scotland Society of Sons and Daughters of the Clergy then aided my Great Grandmother with the education of their children. My 3 great aunts who retired in Kilmun were all school teachers - spending many years in Canada - they lived in a house called "Ferngrove" in Kilmun, I visited the still living Great Aunt there in the late 1970's. We went for lunch at the Ardentinny Hotel. Their brother - my grandfather was shipwrecked on the south Coast of Australia at end of 1908 on the "Falls of Halladale", he then stayed in Australia, and his 2 other brothers joined him out here. My great grandmother and 3 great aunts deaths were all registered in Dunoon. Unfortunately the Funeral Company in Dunoon (Bairds) who buried my last Great Aunt are no longer in business according to my on line search. So the search goes on!!
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Hi Surfbeach
I will be about around that time so I will help you out all I can,
I have emailed the information to someone I know who has recorded the graves in the old section, and is about to make a start on the new section, I often go to Kilmun to take photographs, so next time I am up I will take a look around the newer part of the Cemetery,
Bairds has been away for quite some time now, I don't know what would happen to any records they had, The building is still there on Hamilton Street,
the other cemeteries are Sandbank and in Dunoon near to where Bairds was,
I am wondering if Invereck may be able to shed any light on where the last of your Great Aunts is Buried, as it is owned by the Church of Scotland just a thought
Sybil
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Hi Sybil,
Yes, My great Aunt (Anne Victoria Colquhoun KERR - she was called Aunt Queenie) died at Invereck in Sandbank on July 16th 1982, I have tried to find an email address so I could email Invereck, but no such luck so far. Thanks for your offer of help here - it is really appreciated.
Cheers
Liz
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Hi Liz,
If you click on the link that is under the address details, enquire about Invereck house it will bring up a page to fill in with your details and message
http://www.crossreach.org.uk/node/279
Let me know how you get on
Sybil
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Sybil, Thank you, I have just sent both Crossreach and I believe the Invereck home an email with the reqest, so here is hoping they have the name of the cemetery my Great Aunt is in, and then I am hoping my Great Grandmother is there as well.
Will definitely let you know how I get on with these requests.
Cheers
Liz
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Liz Crossreach is part of Church of Scotland, it's what their care homes come under and Invereck is owned and ran by them, fingers crossed they come back with something, or maybe they can point you in the direction of where records are held
Sybil
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Re M1 for Kilmun cemetry , i am lookin for the name Kirkaldie , i visited Dunoon cem and was very disappointed to see a lot of the stones had been toppled, have they been reinstated ?
regards tom
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I am trying to find the graves of my great grandmother - KERR, Charlotte Campbell nee Grandison (death registered in Dunoon on 7th November, 1932 and my great Aunt - KERR, Anne Victoria Colquhoun (death registered in Dunoon on 16th July, 1982)
My great Aunt (and her 2 sisters Elanor and Charlotte - all retired school teachers) lived in a house called "Ferngrove" in KILMUN for their retirement, and as their deaths were registered in Dunoon, I have to believe they are buried in Kilmun or close to it.
I am leaving Australia in 2 weeks to travel to Kilmun to see if I can find their gravesites - to date I have tried the Argyll Bute Council, they don't have cemetery records, and my system is having problems downloading anything from ScotlandsPeople. Has anyone any advice on how I can find out for me - really would be appreciated.
Surfbeach
Hi Liz/Surfbeach
While updating our files on Grandison in our family tree we came across your messages on Rootschat.com. A female Maxwell Campbell Grandison is in our line, born Barony (Glasgow) in 1850. We have the following information for you.
FamilySearch (http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I97484&tree=Fasti) has an entry for Penelope Charlotte Campbell Grandison
Died 7 Oct 1932
Father James Grandison,
Mother Ellena Reid,
Family Rev. Duncan Colquhoun Kerr, b. 6 Jan 1857, d. 17 Jan 1908
Married 15 Feb 1883
Children
1. James Kerr, b. 27 May 1884,
2. Norah Kerr, b. 28 Jul 1886,
3. Robert Kerr, b. 25 Jul 1888,
4. Charlotte Kerr, b. 6 Jun 1891,
5. Anna Victoria Kerr, b. 4 Dec 1897,
6. Cecil Grandison Kerr, b. 8 Aug 1899
The Necropolis in Glasgow has a gravestone for Grandison listing
- James Grandison, boot tree and last maker, on Sept 3rd 1910 age 69 years.
- Eleanora Reid, wife of J.G., on Nov 19th 1893 age 53 yrs
- Penelope Charlotte Campbell, daughter of above, who died at Dunoon on Oct 7th 1932 age 71 years.
(see http://glasgowancestry.blogspot.ca/2009/02/grandison-ancestry-glasgow-scotland.html)
Hope this helps
Islander01
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Hi Tom
I think some have been but the top of the old cemetery has barriers across to stop people from going up there it's the bit that's on the slope
Sybil
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Hi Islander,
Surfbeach is touring the UK doing family research, and is due to arrive in Dunoon either this week or next I have not heard from her since 24th of May but she is giving me a call when she arrives here, it depends on if she can get wifi signal,
But I will make sure she knows about your post,
Sybil
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hi i am trying to find out if anyone else is buried with my dads cousin he is buried in kilmun cemetery he is john kelly i have his lair number who would be the correct person to contact. regards catherine kelly ???
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Catherine
The only one buried in Kilmun is the following:
8.8 JOHN KELLY Postman born at Glen Striven in the parish of Inverchiolin 21st February 1880 died 4th September 1904 also his father SAMUEL KELLY died 29th April 1908 aged 60 years A few short hours of rain he bore, we little thought death was at our door, It was Gods will, it should be so. By his command we all must go. Also his mother JANET SMITH died 13th Jan 1941 aged 92 years also his sister CHRISTINE SHANKS KELLY died 24th Nov 1952 aged 78 years Erected by a few friends in the district
Hope that helps. Argyll Mausoleum is trying to gather information on people in the graveyard if you are interested in adding to it if this is your family.
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Sorry I didn't sign it Jean Maskell
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hi jean, i found out what i was looking for, thanks for your reply. :)