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I have some info on Crofts in North uist and would be happy to share my findings with anyone who is looking for specific families of areas.
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Hi,
I am just discovering my North Uist connections, so don't have too much info to share at the moment.
My main names are Macdonald and MacCorquidle/MacCorquodale and they seem to have lived in Knockintorran. On one census, a father and son, both fishermen, are missing from the family home and I believe they are 'Visitors' in two different homes in Heisker.
Some of the family stayed on in North Uist while some moved to Glasgow in the late 1890s/early 1900s.
Any information would be most welcome. :)
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Have you located them on the heisker census?
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Hello,
I'd like to take you up on your offer, thanks.
I know that my Nan Alice Maclean, was from Benbecula, but her father, Alexander Maclean, was born in Hougharry, NU, circa 1847 and died South Uist in 1901. His parents are a John Maclean, and Jessie MacInnes.
Alexander married twice, his first to Catherine McCuish, in 1877, in North Uist.
Any info you have would be greatly appreciated. :)
Regards
McVitie.
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Do you have info on crofts from Balemore, N. Uist?
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If you are looking for places in Scotland's Western Isles on a modern map, be aware that the the Gaelic names are more commonly used there nowadays.
Western Isles: Na h-Eileanan an Iar
North Uist: Uibhist a Tuath
Benbecula: Beinn na Faoghla
Balemore: Baile Mòr - see map (http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=73480&y=867190&z=3&sv=73480,867190&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&dn=530)
Hougharry: Hogha Gearraidh - see map (http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=70885&y=870875&z=3&sv=70885,870875&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf)
Heisker or Monach Islands: Theisgeir no na h-Eileanan Monach - see map (http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=62500&y=861500&z=3&sv=62500,861500&st=4&ar=N&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&dn=530&ax=61500&ay=861475)
A North Uist video clip can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3euWpdGbrJw
For the non-Gaelic speaker travelling around the Western Isles, a bilingual tourist map is useful.
ADP
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if you need any help, iv been to outer hebrides and know them well
Alison
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In response to McVitie re Alexander MacLean B 1845
Greetings from County Cork!
Alexander MacLean was my Great Grand Father. His son John b 1877 Houghharry North Uist married Eliza Bostok 1912 in Bulawayo, Rhodesia, (Zimbabwe) and their son Alistair Charles b 1914 was my father.
I am looking for living relatives and information on descendants. Any info on the ancestors/dates etc for John b c1798 d 1855 and Janet MacInnes b? d? and m 1836.
Thank you in anticipation.
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Well hello to you 'cousin' MacMunks! :D
We both share the same gt grandfather but I'm guessing your a descendant of Alexander's first marriage to Catherine MacCuish?
I've done a fair amount of research on our Maclean's history and have one or two documents I've drawn up that I'd be happy to share with you. I've also got a great summary tree from a Canadian researcher, Blair Macaulay, whose roots hail from NU and I can forward you his notes on our Macleans - please send me your PM ad I'll email to you.
Kind regards
McVitie
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Dear McVite, (are we really cousins?)...talk about serendipity.
My pm is (*)
Thank you, I would be seriously chuffed to receive anything of interest that you feel generous enough to share.
I have recently found the maclean.org site but can't find my way around it with any dexterity yet and haven't been able to locate any of my own MacLeans, even with the aid of the optional spelling. This McLean/MacLean spelling has always been a cause for concern, but I see on the birth certs and census records that I have been able to research, that the spelling appears to be almost random. Any ideas in this regard?
I thought I was making real progress, until I found the Maclean Clan web site, (I now feel swamped) and now the task seems awesome and rather daunting. I suspect there are tricks to this new trade and that I shall learn the nifty ones, as I go along.
Greetings from a grey, very cold County Cork.
Kindest regards.
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Hi Macmunks
Have sent you a PM
Kind regards
Mcvitie
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I have just started helping a friend with her North Uist families and would appreciate any help at all.
The family is Macphail, Norman born c 1846 at Locheport, son of Archie Macphail and Margaret Maclellan, and his wife Anne Macormack. born 1849, daughter of Roderick Macormack and Janet MacRury in Ole Sollas?,
I have no death dates for Norman or his wife Anne and no details at all of the Macormack, Maclellan and MacRury lines and would dearly love to know more about them.
Norman Macphail's son Archie, his wife Christina Macdonald and their five sons emigrated to NSW in 1922 and my friend is descended frm this couple.
Many thanks, Marie in Sydney.
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This is so familiar I could have written it myself! I am building a family tree for my father Alexander Moody. His mother was Catherine (Kate) Macdonald and her mother's line is MacCorquodale/MacCorquidle. I have a Bertie Hart married to my grandmother's sister (Annie) and I know that the Harts came from Govan. I have built a substantial list of ancestors on both the MacDonald/MacCorquodale side and on the Moody side. The Moody line I have legitimately goes back to 1799 but have got stuck now, as I think at that point Ireland is involved and very little information is available to help. Be fascinating if we have similar connections.
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Hello, I would like to take you up on your offer. My great grandfather was born in a place called " tighan" in 1879. His name was Godfrey Macleod. Tighan does not feature on any map so, I'm thinking it's either a long forgotten village or it's a croft. Any information on this would be a gret help. Thank you
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Hello
This notice looks quite old and you may have some information already. I am researching MacDonald/MacCorquodale or MacCorquidle of North Uist and have quite a wealth of information. One of these MacDonalds married a Hart and I see that you have some earlier information on them also. I'm also researching Moody (Govan and Ireland). Have a good bit of info but have got a bit stuck at 1799 and before. Any help would be so appreciated and if I can also help by passing anything on, I would be more than happy to share.
Govan Fair
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I have just started helping a friend with her North Uist families and would appreciate any help at all.
The family is Macphail, Norman born c 1846 at Locheport, son of Archie Macphail and Margaret Maclellan, and his wife Anne Macormack. born 1849, daughter of Roderick Macormack and Janet MacRury in Ole Sollas?,
I have no death dates for Norman or his wife Anne and no details at all of the Macormack, Maclellan and MacRury lines and would dearly love to know more about them.
Norman Macphail's son Archie, his wife Christina Macdonald and their five sons emigrated to NSW in 1922 and my friend is descended frm this couple.
Many thanks, Marie in Sydney.
Hello Marie,
I have just registered recently and see this a fairly old post. Please get in contact as i think I might know the family that left North Uist in 1922 - but I would need more details.
Many thanks ..
Iain (Edinburgh)
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I have some info on Crofts in North uist and would be happy to share my findings with anyone who is looking for specific families of areas.
Hi
I have just come across this post! With a few good rellies, We have been searching for information for our Family from North Uist!
MacInnes Ewan: We have some information re Ewan McInnes born about 1812 in Cladach Kylis,
MacInnes Mary: his wife we think was Mary McInnes born about 1822 in Houghary.
They appear to have married C1845 after the birth of two of their daughters, Ann, Harriet.
They left for Australia on the Hercules which was quarantined in Cork Ireland before arrive in South Australia on the Neptune. Sadly, Ann died in the quarantine and another daughter Flora, was born and died on the Neptune.
Ewans parents as Finaly McInnes (born about 1770 we think and died before 1851)
and Catherine MacDonald (born about 1781 and died about 1866...
Catherines's parents are Donald MacDonald and Margaret McLean....
Ewan's sister Margaret (Peggy) was married to Angus McPhail
I looking for any further information re our McInnes, MacLean, MacDonald, McPhail Families so would love to know if there is any further information we could add to our research.
:) ;) :D
Cheran
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Hi, I have been organising papers from my late parents and stumbled on this site/thread by accident.
I have a fair amount of information on my fathers side [MacDougall] dating back th 1811 and intend to get it in context with a vist to the GRO.
My grandfather, John Macdonald, was a crofter in Paible but I have little information prior to that, other than he was jailed in the 1920's leading a crofters revolt. His wife was Christina MacCorquodale and I believe had connections with Kirkibost or Baleshare. Her parents were Donald MacCorquodale and Cathrine, nee MacDonald.
From the previous threads it sounds as if there may be connections with them and any detail would be appreciated.
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My late father-in-law James MacLeod's father was Murdoch born 1857 at Air Asaig, Isle of Harris son of James b 1826 who died at Newton 1896. and is wife Selina MacLean.
I'd be glad of any information to pass onto my son and grandsons and would like to visit the area.
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My grandparents were Donald John and Rose Macdougall- I think from Bayhead/Paible? My grandmothers brother was Archie MacCorquodale who married Cathy. That is all I know but it sounds like I may have some links to you Mac_Delve. I am going up there later in the year to do some more investigation but will let you know if I find anything else out
Ellie
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Hi, I have been organising papers from my late parents and stumbled on this site/thread by accident.
I have a fair amount of information on my fathers side [MacDougall] dating back th 1811 and intend to get it in context with a vist to the GRO.
My grandfather, John Macdonald, was a crofter in Paible but I have little information prior to that, other than he was jailed in the 1920's leading a crofters revolt. His wife was Christina MacCorquodale and I believe had connections with Kirkibost or Baleshare. Her parents were Donald MacCorquodale and Cathrine, nee MacDonald.
From the previous threads it sounds as if there may be connections with them and any detail would be appreciated.
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I have your relatives on my family tree (chiefly MacCorquodale/MacDonald). It's a different 'line' from mine but both are directly descended from Finlay MacCorquodale - b.1790 and Catherine (Kate) Mathieson b.1791. John and Christina were married on 6th Sept. 1910 in Knockintorran in North Uist. There is no father listed on John's marriage certificate to Christina, only his mother, Catherine MacCorquodale, a domestic servant. Christina's occupation is listed as a weaver and John MacDonald, at the age of 30, is listed as an army pensioner. My great grandmother, Ann MacCorquodale came to Glasgow at some point in the late 1800s with her husband Alexander John MacDonald and that is were my family were established. Was interested in the news that John MacDonald was so involved in the crofters' revolt. I knew nothing about that but I will read up a bit on this now. Hope this has been of some interest to you. If I can give you any more information please let me know...
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Hi i am new to the forum ,i have recently completed some research into my family tree, i am directly descended from Finlay Maccorquodale bn1790 Knockintorran North Uist ,he is my 5 x great grandfather. I have very little information on him i was intrested to see if you have any other details.
Thanks Ian
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Hi i am new to the forum ,i have recently completed some research into my family tree, i am directly descended from Finlay Maccorquodale bn1790 Knockintorran North Uist ,he is my 5 x great grandfather. I have very little information on him i was intrested to see if you have any other details.
Thanks Ian
quote]Hello Ian....had just logged on and got a message about your reply. Finlay MacCorquodale is also my 5 x great grandfather. The line reaches down to my father, Alexander Moody, whose grandmother (on his mother's side) was Ann MacCorquodale who was Finlay MacCorquodale's great grand-daughter. She married Alexander MacDonald, also from North Uist and at some point after their marriage in North Uist in 1897, moved to Plantation and then Govan in Glasgow where their seven children were born. I have quite a bit of research for the family and if you let me know where your line lies, I would love to pass on any information I have.[/
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Hi Thanks for getting back to me can't believe how addictive this family tree stuff is, i have established that Finlay Maccorquodale had a son Angus Maccorquodale bn1820.
His son was also Finlay Maccorquodale Bn 1847, following his death in Knockintorran in 1901 ,his son my great grandfather Angus John Maccorquodale bn 5/10/1882, moved to Glasgow also to Plantation and married Catherine Mckenzie in 1906 .
Following a spelling mistake on his marriage record we became McCorquodale ,his son was Angus McCorquodale bn14/10/1910 who was my grandfather.
I was trying to establish more information about the original Finlay but the trail has gone cold due to lack of records.It would appear our lines cross around Findlay Maccorquodale jnr my great great grandfather who must have been Ann Maccorquodale's Uncle ?
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Hello again Ian
Well....I think I read and re-read this about 10 times to work out if my reply would make any sense! So....it looks like my great grandmother Ann MacCorquodale and your great grandfather Angus John Maccorquodale were brother and sister. The records I have for your line shows that your grandfather Angus had a brother, also Finlay, who was born in 1906 but died in 1908. There is also a sister, Maggie who I have as born in 1909. Are you building a family tree? I am and have been working on it for over a year now and have quite a bit of information on the North Uist connection. Finlay MacCorquodale (1847) Ann and Angus' father, was married to Maggie MacInnes whose mother came from Benbecula. Now she has relatives that went to Australia in the mid 1800s...amazing. Some of our North Uist connections also went off to Canada...I have some records on that..but not much. I also have it noted that Angus and Ann's sister Johanne also came to Glasgow and set up home, with her family, in Plantation. As you say...this stuff becomes quite compelling and believe me I'm delighted to be able to share this information with you. If you haven't started a family tree, please do...I'm more than happy to pass over everything I have on the MacCorquodales...you may also have some information that I'm not aware of. Hope I've been of some help..
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Hello,
I'm not sure whether it is just a coincidence that I see two familiar family names or whether I have actually struck gold. I have been trying to trace the parents of my greatgrandmother Catherine Mcdonald born c1812 in Appin. According to her death certificate from SP her parents were a Christian MCCORQUODALE and a Donald McDonald. I believe I found the parents living in Duror on the 1841 census. Christian's age is c 60 on the census but I realize that is not necessarily 100% accurate. On familysearch.org I found several of their children: Hugh b. 1805, Christy b. 1808, Catherine b 1812, Elizabeth born 1817, Duncan b. 1820, and Donald born 1822. I have not yet been able to find Christian's birth or death certificate. Do they even exist?????I don't even know whether she originated from this area. It's just a possibility. Any help would be appreciated.
Nan
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Hello again Ian
Well....I think I read and re-read this about 10 times to work out if my reply would make any sense! So....it looks like my great grandmother Ann MacCorquodale and your great grandfather Angus John Maccorquodale were brother and sister. The records I have for your line shows that your grandfather Angus had a brother, also Finlay, who was born in 1906 but died in 1908. There is also a sister, Maggie who I have as born in 1909. Are you building a family tree? I am and have been working on it for over a year now and have quite a bit of information on the North Uist connection. Finlay MacCorquodale (1847) Ann and Angus' father, was married to Maggie MacInnes whose mother came from Benbecula. Now she has relatives that went to Australia in the mid 1800s...amazing. Some of our North Uist connections also went off to Canada...I have some records on that..but not much. I also have it noted that Angus and Ann's sister Johanne also came to Glasgow and set up home, with her family, in Plantation. As you say...this stuff becomes quite compelling and believe me I'm delighted to be able to share this information with you. If you haven't started a family tree, please do...I'm more than happy to pass over everything I have on the MacCorquodales...you may also have some information that I'm not aware of. Hope I've been of some help..
Hi
This is all interesting... Just to pass on When I was researching my Ewan, I had to start looking for records that were "Hugh" and "Owen" if you do a search on the Gaelic names, you find that it can either of the three .
Cheran
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Hello,
I'm not sure whether it is just a coincidence that I see two familiar family names or whether I have actually struck gold. I have been trying to trace the parents of my greatgrandmother Catherine Mcdonald born c1812 in Appin. According to her death certificate from SP her parents were a Christian MCCORQUODALE and a Donald McDonald. I believe I found the parents living in Duror on the 1841 census. Christian's age is c 60 on the census but I realize that is not necessarily 100% accurate. On familysearch.org I found several of their children: Hugh b. 1805, Christy b. 1808, Catherine b 1812, Elizabeth born 1817, Duncan b. 1820, and Donald born 1822. I have not yet been able to find Christian's birth or death certificate. Do they even exist?????I don't even know whether she originated from this area. It's just a possibility. Any help would be appreciated.
Nan
Hello Nan.....the names I mention here are all from North Uist and not Appin in Argyll. I'm not an expert but in my research on SP, records of MacCorquodales in North Uist, pre-1800 or thereabouts, are almost non-existant (you'll know already that there are many in the Argyll area). I have a marriage in 1844 in North Uist, between Marion MacDonald who was born in Coll, Argyll and Angus MacCorquodale. Her parents Donald and Flora MacLean and grandparents Donald MacLean and Marion MacDonald, both came from Coll (her parents died in North Uist though, so they must have moved there) but I'm afraid that's all I have. If you ever find a connection to North Uist, please let me know and I'll give you what I can. Not much help really I suppose but it's amazing what you can piece together with little nuggets of information isn't it? Good Luck. Sandra
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Thank you for replying, Sandra. I had hoped that there might be a connection even if it were a tenuous one. My knowledge of Highland geography is shaky so I'm not sure of the distance between Appin and North Uist. I should have looked it up on the internet before writing. My excitement at seeing the two names that I have been trying unsucceessfully to research for several years made me throw caution to the wind. I am having difficulty trying to find birth, death and marriage info for those who were born in Argyllshire before 1800 and for some who were born in the next two decades. Probably the records do not exist.
Kind regards, Nan
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Hello Nan...sorry I wasn't more helpful but I do believe that MacCorquodales 'moved' to North Uist at some point in and around the early 1800s. North Uist is part of the Western Isles while Appin in on the West Coast of Scotland, so it's not entirely impossible that they 'spread' themselves across to the Isles. If you're checking out Scotland's People, I can't think of a better resource than that....so good luck with your continued research and if you do find a connection, I'd be glad to hear about it. Good Luck....Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
I had not had much recent success in finding more information on the Argyll branch of the family as I have already indicated to you. I was close to giving up on that branch of the family. As a last resort I tried to make contact with someone in the area. In the last two days I have received pictures of several family gravestones from the mid1800's and transcriptions of the information on them. To have a breakthrough like this is like winning a lottery. I haven't made any connection yet to North Uist but .........Thank you for your offer.
Regards, Nan
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Hi, I have been organising papers from my late parents and stumbled on this site/thread by accident.
I have a fair amount of information on my fathers side [MacDougall] dating back th 1811 and intend to get it in context with a vist to the GRO.
My grandfather, John Macdonald, was a crofter in Paible but I have little information prior to that, other than he was jailed in the 1920's leading a crofters revolt. His wife was Christina MacCorquodale and I believe had connections with Kirkibost or Baleshare. Her parents were Donald MacCorquodale and Cathrine, nee MacDonald.
From the previous threads it sounds as if there may be connections with them and any detail would be appreciated.
Sandra,
I have found the answer to my question in an exellent little book at NLS, Crofting History - Balranald & Paiblesgarry.
My grandfather John Macdonald [Iain an Eilean] was one of a number of crofters who did a land grab in 1921 as they had not been given the land promised to veterans of WW1. As a result they were jailed for 60 days in Inverness. They ultimately won with the creation of 8 new crofts in Balranald and 8 in Paiblesgarry [I was born in No 8].
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Ann MacCormack, my great-grandaunt, died at Locheport 12 February 1895. Her husband Norman MacPhail died at Grenitote 12 June 1921. My grandmother Janet MacNiven was born at Locheport 23 September 1889.
Neil Cameron (Melbourne AUS)
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Hello All. I have a tough name to research I know, but thankfully my Great Grandparents had a more memorable one. I have been trying to trace my 'Brown' line, but with practically no known relatives still alive that might know anything I am stuck at my Great Granddad. On my Grandmother's side I do have her mum & dad's names. DONALD MacCorquodale (A shoemaker) & Georgina MacPherson. My Gran Catherine or Kate MacCorquodale was born at Hacklet(?) on Benbecula in 1901.
I would be most grateful if anyone can help.
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Hi: Kate b. 26.4.1901 was the oldest of the family. Father Donald 15/12.1870-15.1,1951 was a Sgnt in the Camron H'landers and was MC in the end of year entertainment at Kilerivagh, I think it was in 1898. His father was also a shoemaker, Donald McCorquodale 1835-23.10.1922, alway said to be in Ruabruach though it is not clear this was any different from 12 Hacklet. That Donald was born in North Uist, son of yet another Donald. They were married respectively to Georgina MacPherson from 11 Lionacleit; Catherine Boyd from Lionacleit; and Mary MacDonald. Any questions, do send me a message. Angus
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Hello Angus, Thank you for responding to my message so quickly. I really appreciate that. It's always nice to get dates and names to check up on. I'll add them to my ancestry.co.uk tree shortly.
May I ask what, if any, is your connection to the family?
Do you have more information regarding Georgina MacPherson? I have added parents & siblings on to her branch of the tree but I could be entirely wrong about them - Parents, John & Catherine(b 1829) and siblings, Donald, Mary & Neil John. I took that information from what litttle census info the ancestry site provides.
I shall go and add those details that you have given me. Thanks again Angus.
Mike
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Hi Superdude,
Quote - Re: "Hello, I would like to take you up on your offer. My great grandfather was born in a place called " tighan" in 1879. His name was Godfrey Macleod. Tighan does not feature on any map so, I'm thinking it's either a long forgotten village or it's a croft. Any information on this would be a gret help. Thank you"
I haven't had time to read through everything but if you already have this, it may help others.
The place you are referring to is "Tigharry"
1891
Forename, Surname, Relation, Condition, Age, Occupation, Where born, Gaelic/Gaelic & English
Catherine MacLeod Head M 49 General Servant N Uist, Inv, G
Mary " Dau U 21 Gen Serv. Domestic, Glasgow, Lanark, G
Donald " Son 14 Scholar, Glasgow, G
Lachlan " Son 13 Scholar Glasgow, Lanark, G
Godfrey " Son 12 Scholar, N/U, Inv, G
So none spoke English, only Gaelic!
Regards,
Anne Marie.
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Ann Marie, try this site, the map & aerial pic' are on the same page, enter Lochmaddy in the search box, then use the compass,
http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm
Slainte,
Skoosh.
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My Grandmother Mhairi MCDOUGALL, daughter of Donald MACDOUGALL and Katie MACCORQUODALE, was born on 18 December 1904 in Knockintorran, North Uist. Donald MACDOUGALL was the son of John MACDOUGALL and Mary MACDIARMID, and was born in 1862 (estimated).
I have always wanted to know the location of the house where my grandmother lived until she was 16. She always referred to it as 'the old home' and said the family had been crofters on North Uist for 6 generations. I believe she was one of a large family including Kay, John, Iain, Alan and Chrissie (possibly Donald - killed in WW 1??) If anyone could give me information on where they lived I'd really appreciate it.
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Ann Marie, try this site, the map & aerial pic' are on the same page, enter Lochmaddy in the search box, then use the compass,
http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm
Slainte,
Skoosh.
Hi Skoosh,
I must have missed this post somehow (probably had a few at the same time and forgot to come back to it)? I'm not quite sure what the link is for, sorry?
A. M.
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Hi Jasmanda,
This 1901 Knockintorran census (all b N/Uist) looks to be your kin?
Donald Macdougall 38 Crofter
Kate Macdougall 30
John Macdougall 10
Kate Macdougall 8
Donald Archy Macdougall 5
John Macdougall 2
Allan Macdougall Under 1 Mo
Anne Marie
P.S. Blue-Sten on very 1st post here is offering look-ups for crofts but they weren't like addresses of this day and age. Their croft no. may still be in use today although the original building may not?
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Thank you! This is great information to have. I knew the names of my grandmother's bothers and sisters but not their ages relative to her. I wonder why there were 2 John's ? I really appreciate you looking this up for me :)
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Both grandfathers were John's? or possibly the first John died.
Skoosh.
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Hi Skoosh,
The "grandfather's" theory is most probable as both John's were alive on the 1901 census I posted.
Anne Marie.
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Hello. :) I think I solved the mystery of the two 'John's' when I spoke to my dad about the information you posted. He had no recollection of a second John but said his Uncle Iain was missing from the list. When I looked up the 2011 census to find my Grandmother (born in 1904), I noticed she was recorded as Mary rather than the Gaelic 'Mhairi' I know that when Mhairi went to school the children were punished if they spoke Gaelic so I suspect that all names had to be recorded as their English equivalent on the census forms. 'Iain' is Gaelic for John.
Genealogy's addictive stuff once you get started, isn't it!
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Yes Jasmanda,
Very addictive!! I have spent more £ looking for the deceased than I've spent on the living ;D ::)
If you think you have "mysteries" with Gaelic v English names, you have more fun still to come!! ;D
Multiple spellings e.g. McDougall, MacDougall, McDougal, MacDougal, McDougald, MacDougald & that's only the ones I've seen so far & being an "Islander" descendant, that's the hurdles you will have to face but it's all part of the fun & excitement.
Enjoy the fascinating journey,
Anne Marie
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Hi Blue Sten,
I would like to take you up on your offer for information on North Uist crofts.
Would you be able to help me with Crawfords in North Uist. I am looking into an Archibald Crawford from Minish, who also spent time at Baleshare.
Archibald was a Shoemaker married to Kate Cameron, they had a son Archibald (1852-1934), who married twice. He had five children with his first wife Mary Robertson, and a further three children with his second wife Mary MacLean.
The son Archibald was at Baleshare between 1881 and 1891 according to Census records.
He was at recorded at Minish in the 1911 Census.
I hope that you can help.
- MacLost
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Hi MacLost (good title) ;D
Is it only Archibald (Shoemaker) specifically that you are interested in & is it his descendants your interested in rather than his ancestors?
A M
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Hi ammack,
I would be interested in any Crawfords that resided in North Uist. Any that preceded Archibald and those desended from him and any other Crawfords.
I realise that there is likely to be very little information, as I know that the first Crawfords did not arrive until the mid 1700's, brought from Mull to Benebcula. I believe the North Uist Crawfords are an off-shot of the original, as this was not a common surname in these Isles at that time.
Regards
MacLost
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Hi,
I couldn't find ANY Crawfords in my transcriptions for 1861 or 1871 but found 1 for 1851 which is also on freecen.
http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Piece: SCT1851/113 Place: North Uist -Inverness-shire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: N Uist Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Trumisgary
Folio: 91 Page: 4 Schedule: 15
Address: Maloglet
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MACPHAIL Ephumia Head W F 78 Cotter Inverness-shire - North Uist
MACPHAIL Catherine Dau U F 28 Inverness-shire - North Uist
CRAWFORD Archibald Grnson U M 17 Ag Lab Inverness-shire - North Uist
This may be him prior to marriage?
There are quite a few on S/Uist
Anne Marie
P.S. You may be better opening a new thread too for your query for more response where people will see the names first off rather than on here mixed in with others?
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Hi Anne Marie
Thank you for looking up the Crawfords for me, much appreciated.
I may well begin a new thread.
Regards,
Alexander
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Hi Alexander,
No CRAWFORD 1841 N/U
I have found a few marriages in S/Uist & will look for births.
Do you know who Archibald's (Shoemaker) parents were?
Anne Marie
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Hi Anne Marie,
There is no need to look at Crawfords in South Uist, I have researched them extensively. Thank you for your consideration.
The Archibald that you refer to (shoe-maker), was listed on his son's Death Cert. I have no further information for him. I assumed that he was also of North Uist, I would need to verify. He could well have been at Benbecula himself.
Regards,
Alexander
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Hi Alexander,
It seems there was only the 1 Archibald Crawford between 1841 - 1851 N & S Uist (age 17 living with his gran) which would suggest his father may have died prior to 1841 but then again where was young Archie in 1841 - (the one living with his gran in 1851)?
Nothing worse when you hit a brick like that as there are no death certs.
A M
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Archibald 84 son of Archibald Crawford shoemaker = Kate Cameron married firstly Mary Robertson and secondly Mary Maclean died 14.9.1934, the death registered by son D A Crawford. As he was originally shown as grandson living with grandparents, it looks as though the parents may have been elsewhere, perhaps Glasgow, when the young Archie was the only Crawford in North Uist. In that case, despite the coincidence of a Cameron marriage, I doubt he was related to the Benbecula/ South Uist crew.
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Hi Alexander,
I done a search for any Crawford marriages (Kilmuir N/U) 1822 - 1854 - none
I've done a search for any births for Crawford (Kilmuir N/U) 1821 - 1854 - none.
I don't know enough about N/Uist so not sure of the other Parish records as I only have Kilmuir.
Was it merely the census info. which gave you the idea that Archibald (son of Kate Cameron) was born N/Uist?
I have searched for a marriage with surnames female MacPhail & male Crawford on SP 1848 - 1854 & there are 4. I used MacPhail 1st with soundex but didn't put in any forenames.
There are 41 deaths for surname Crawford with other names Cameron without a forename as it could have been registered anything from Catherine/Catharine/Kate/Katie/Katy/Kitty.
So there will be plenty for less than 50p which are not similar names so that will narrow things down as you will know whether Kate Cameron's hubby Archie predeceased her or not & give a possible place of death to search for him?
Looking like a trip to the mainland as N/Uist doesn't seem to be the homeland ::) ;D
I forgot to mention that it may be a possibility that Archie (Shoemaker) & Kate emigrated?
Anne Marie
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Hi Alexander,
The Kilmuir I mentioned is on North Uist and no births or marriages for Crawford in that Registration Parish but there may be in other Parishes of N/Uist?
I was merely pointing to the fact that you may need to expand your search to the mainland.
Census records on the Islands back then can be sketchy as Gaelic was the language spoken by the majority, very few had English so you need to detach and allow for the margin of error.
Anne Marie
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Piece: SCT1851/113 Place: North Uist -Inverness-shire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: N Uist Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Trumisgary
Folio: 91 Page: 4 Schedule: 15
Address: Maloglet
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MACPHAIL Ephumia Head W F 78 Cotter Inverness-shire - North Uist
MACPHAIL Catherine Dau U F 28 Inverness-shire - North Uist
CRAWFORD Archibald Grnson U M 17 Ag Lab Inverness-shire - North Uist
I am now wondering if Archibald (assuming this is him) was illigitimate and his mother is the Catherine here on the census.....................................Very probable ??? i.e. a search for an Archibald MacPhail may be worth checking.
I've checked Kilmuir with no luck.
I also wonder if that Catherine may have married a Cameron?
Anne Marie.
P.S. I have noticed her age but that may well be an error too. The gap in terms is what I would say to be the norm if you add a few to her and minus a few for him.
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Hi
Ive found out that ancestors came from N. Uist. Archibald MacDonald who was married to Flora (Me MacDonald) was a crofter there. He died before 18sept 1877. Also a crofter was Angus MacVicar who was married to Ann (Me MacDonald).
Archibald and Flora had a son Roderick who lived in Cladach illory and who married Catherine McVicar who was Angus and Ann's daughter who lived in Cladach Kirkibost.
Does anyone have further information on these ancestors or the crofts they would have worked?
Regards
Mile
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Hi PW,
Just noticed your thread.
To be honest you would be better starting your own new thread with the names & dates for your query for it to be picked up.
I only found it as I was checking info. I had for the original query on this thread before I deleted it.
Anne Marie
P.S. The reason I recommend a new thread is that people are drawn to reading posts with names of interest to them
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Hi PW,
Just noticed your thread.
To be honest you would be better starting your own new thread with the names & dates for your query for it to be picked up.
I only found it as I was checking info. I had for the original query on this thread before I deleted it.
Anne Marie
P.S. The reason I recommend a new thread is that people are drawn to reading posts with names of interest to them
Thanks for the advice Anne Marie 👌
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Hi, I'm trying to gain some insight into a branch of MacLeans descended from Neil Ban MacLean, 7th of Boreray. Neil's grandson, also Neil, was the first MacLean of Kinloch. I'm trying to discover which "Kenloch" they are speaking off and I'm assuming, correctly or not, that it is located in the Outer Hebrides. The various MacLean genealogies don't seem to mention much about this branch. Between the two Neils mentioned above is Archibald MacLean of Kirkibost and later Heisker which I think is in North Uist. Archibald was Neil Ban's 4th son. Some of the descendants of this line came to Canada and I'm trying to make connections. Any and all help appreciated.
Eugene (Nova Scotia)
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Hi Aodh,
Can you supply dates please which would be a good help ? ;D
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Kirkibost and later Heisker which I think is in North Uist.
Aodh,
Kirkibost & Heisker are both in N/Uist.
These are online if you google Neil 1st of Kinloch it will throw up plenty.
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=maclaren&id=I39235
http://www.stephenhicks.net/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I6742&tree=1
http://www.douglashistory.co.uk/famgen/getperson.php?personID=I75755&tree=Main
Anne Marie
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Dates - well, that's part of the problem. I believe Neil Ban MacLean of Boreray was probably born before 1620 and maybe as early as 1600. Another son John, brother to Archibald of Kirkibost, was a tacksman at Boreray in 1695 when Martin visited the island so Neil Ban was dead by then. This John died in 1723.I would guestimate that Archibald was born about 1640, his son Neil (of Kenloch) born about 1690, grandson Hector born about 1710, greatgrandson Neil born about 1730, and great great grandson Donald born about 1750.
Is Kenloch a tack on North Uist or is it in Skye - these MacLeans starting with Neil (b~1690) were known as "of Kenloch" with Rev. MacLean's father being "Donald MacLean, 4th of Kenloch". I'm looking in Uist for answers but perhaps I'm in the wrong part of Scotland???
I know that Donald MacLean (~1750) married a Margaret MacLeod and they had a son Rev. Roderick MacLean b. 1772 on Skye. Rev. MacLean died at Drimsdale, South Uist in 1854. Donald married a second time and a daughter from that union ended up in Cape Breton Nova scotia - just down the road from where I was raised. I'm not closely related to the family but I thought it would be nice to gather what info I could on their ancestry.
see: Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticane, Vol. 7, p. 196 http://www.archive.org/stream/fastiecclesiaesc00scot#page/196/mode/2up
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Thanks Anne Marie,
I have found those websites and more but there isn't a lot of referencing involved and I'm looking for more evidence. I'll probably create profiles for these individuals on WikiTree and would like some proof instead or heresay.
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Aodh,
You could get in touch with the tree owners who may well have the source details & maybe just haven't put them online as it's a very time consuming thing.
I believe Kinloch to be on the Isle of Rhum which was owned by MacLean of Isle of Coll
Try these for some details:
http://www.nas.gov.uk/about/070605.asp
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e8z/
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While there is a Kinloch on the Isle of Rum that is not the same MacLeans. I am descended from the Rum MacLeans and have thoroughly researched that family. I've been in touch with Nicholas MacLean-Bristol and I have his books which cover the Coll MacLeans of which Rum is part. There are several Kinlochs in Scotland - there is another in Fife, one in Skye and perhaps one in Uist and maybe more.
Thanks
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Some interesting reading on Clan MacLean & more:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e90/
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Aodh,
I have no knowledge of MacLean ancestry, merely trying to help as I enjoy genealogy ::)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Maclean
Kinloch on South Uist could be of significance but I believe the MacLeans on Uist to have come from Coll?
There is also Kinloch Rannoch (Perthshire), Kinlochmoidart (Inverness-shire), Kinlochleven (Lochaber), Kinlochbervie (Sutherland, Highlands)
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Hi Jasmanda. If you come online again please check your personal messages.
I have included much more detail of the MacDougall family you were enquiring about and am distantly related.
John
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Re Finlay MacCorquodale & Catherine Matheson, their dau. Christian ( b. 1831) married Hector MacLellan at Kilphedir NU in 1855, his 1st wife Ann MacAulay died 1855 at Old Split Croft 5 Balemore leaving a son John and dau. Margaret. Hector & Christian emigrated 1857 to Ailsa Craig, Ontario and had 9 children there, hence many descendants. Hector was my gg grandfather's ( Ewen) brother. Their sister Christian married John MacDonald of Houghary, and sister Catherine married Archy MacDonald, a shepherd on Vallay originally frm Skye. Their eldest brother married Janet MacRury (from Scolpaig?), lived at Tighary. I have a lot of info on our MacLellan connections in Canada, and happy to share if of interest. Rgds, Sandy M.
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Hi MacLost
I am a descendant of Archibald Crawford (Minish & Baleshare) Are you related to the Crawfords?
Kind regards
uist1754
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This is a reply to Aodh , because I can clarify a few points with absolute certainty .
Kinloch , meaning head of the loch , is at the head of Loch Dunvegan , and adjacent to the place where I was born and brought up , called variously Ostal , Osdale , or Ostle which is nearest to the Gaelic pronunciation which we all used . Kinloch is where the Church of Scotland manse is/was situated , and Ostal is where Donald Maclean's son Roderick Maclean was born . So was I .
I am a direct descendant of Matilda , sister of Elizabeth Pringle who married Roderick Maclean , and I am very interested that you should know that this Roderick had a half-sister by his father's second marriage . Her name was Anne , and she married a Duirinish ( Skye ) school master called Archibald Campbell and emigrated to Nova Scotia , where he continued to be a school master . Her mother's brother was the famous soldier , Major General Norman MacLeod of Gillen , near Waternish .
I am particularly interested in this matter because Morrison's genealogy gets it wrong , and it should be corrected . He confuses Roderick's sister-in-law , Matilda , with his half-sister , Anne who emigrated and raised her family in Canada . According to his erroneous account , Matilda ( whose grandfather was the Clan Chief of the MacLeods , Norman MacLeod of MacLeod ) left Scotland , whereas in fact, there are direct descendants of Matilda living in the west of Skye to this day . Matilda lived and died at Ardmore , Harlosh on 9th November 1877 , and her death and parental names were certified by her grandson , Donald Macaskill , brother of my great grandmother .
I would be very interested to learn more from you about Anne , and how you come to know about her , because one day I intend to write a full account in a Clan MacLeod magazine , setting out the true story of the descendants of Matilda , of which I myself am one . Her mother Jessie , daughter of James MacDonald of Knocowe ( who got Boswell drunk , on his tour with Dr Johnson ) brother of Allan MacDonald ( husband of the famous Flora MacDonald ) was descended from the MacDonalds of Kingsburgh , and from the Lords of the Isles , and her father was the son of the MacLeod Chieftain .
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Dear Aodh ,
I came across your questions by accident . My Rootschat name is Coruisk . Please see my reply to you .
Briefly , Rev. Roderick Maclean was born on Skye , at Ostal , which is adjacent to Kinloch , being the head of Loch Dunvegan . His father Donald Maclean had a daughter by a second marriage , called Anne , who married Archibald Campbell , a school-master in Duirinish , Skye , and emigrated to Nova Scotia where he continued to work as a school teacher .
I was also born at Ostal , and wish to correct the MacLeod genealogy of A. Morrison , who confuses Anne ( half-sister of Roderick Maclean ) with Matilda , who was the sister-in-law of Roderick , ie. his wife's sister . What can you tell me about Anne's life in Nova Scotia or Cape Breton ?ss
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Looks like I never saw or responded to this message - my apologies!
Regarding Anne who married Archibald Campbell - my research suggests that her name was Margaret - not Anne.
Margaret, according to her gravestone inscription was born on Skye in 1786 and died in 1874.
Her husband, from the same stone, Archibald Campbell, native of the isle of Skye, Inverness-shire born Feb 17 1785, died [stone broken & repaired]1866, aged 81 years.
Of course the other possibility is that Margaret is the second wife of Archibald Campbell.
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My newly discovered grandfather was Angus McCorquodale, married Rosetta grant. I am the daughter of their son, Richard and have only very recently discovered this fact with the help of a genealogist. Are you Angus or Johns son? Would love any pictures if you have any, as only got one of Richard, my dad. He never knew about me and unfortunately died in 2016.
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Hi Anne, welcome to RC ;)
Do you have the names of the parents of your g/father Angus as it's easier for others to work with info. further back as Angus & Richard are more recent in terms for people to connect?
Annie
Add...Incase you don't already have it, the marriage on SP (scotlandspeople.gov.uk) downloadable using credits for a minimal fee & will name both parents including mothers' maiden name...
MCCORQUODALE ANGUS - GRANT ROSETTA 1935 - 644/16 86 Tradeston (Lanark)
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question regarding family roots in Hougharry (Hogha Gearraidh)
my first post so apologies if placed incorrectly though i am seeing your offer of knowledge!
My great Grandmother Kate MacDonald 1891, daughter of Roderick, had a daughter (my grandmother) by another man in the village Norman MacIsaac who was much older. Im told the baby was given to the sister of Norman and her husband but i know little else. I believe the name of family baby went to was Archibald Mackay and possibly in Luing/Oban?
If any informatiion on Norman and family would be interested! cheers.
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There are three marriages of a female M(A)cIsaac to a male M(a)ckay.
Mary Margaret MacIsaac married Norman Mackay in Benbecula in 1886
Margaret MacIsaac married Archibald McKay in Kilmore and Kilbride in 1910
Christy M MacIsaac married Alick Mackay in North Uist in 1948
Oban in is in the parish of Kilmore and Kilbride.
Go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and invest in some credits. Use some of them to download the marriage certificate of Archibald McKay and Margaret MacIsaac. This should tell you the couple's ages and the names of their parents including their mothers' maiden surnames.
You can then look for Margaret with her family in the census, and with luck you'll also find Norman with the same parents.
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Hello all, I am new to board and I see a topic that has been on my mind for a while. I know that I am Searching for. Hugh MacDonald b. 1802ish. Who married a Catherine MacLellan around the Area of Houghary or Malaclete or Knockintorran. Parents may have left Croft 5. Around 1835. Parents possibly John MacDonald and Marion Maccormick.b.1769ish. From north and west uist but only if Hugh Archibald and Duncan in that family who may have emigrated to Sydney Mines NS. 1835 or so. I also think the family may have lived in Plebisgary (sic)?. Any one
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I have some info on Crofts in North uist and would be happy to share my findings with anyone who is looking for specific families of areas.
The above was posted Friday 17 November 06 09:32 GMT (UK) (15 years ago)
I've read over 10 requests to the above offer but I've yet to see any replies in those years 15 yrs...
Has anyone had a reply?
If you've had a reply via PM it would be an idea to let us know as if this isn't the case it seems there's unlikely to be any help provided.
Annie