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Title: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: lyraea on Sunday 26 November 06 01:28 GMT (UK)
Hi All

I have a 4xg grandmother who is Jenny Blampin b 1761.  Her husband is John Symes probably born in the 1760's.   Her father is Ferdinando Blampin.      He died in Cullompton, Devon in 1797.     I don't have his wife's name but do have other children.     I wonder if anyone knows anything about this family or where they originated from.    I'm guessing France or even Canada but not sure.   Any information about him / them would be appreciated.

thanks
lyraea
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: moombaprince on Sunday 03 November 13 06:03 GMT (UK)
If you ever found out where Ferdinando Blampin hails from , please let me know , thanks Steve.
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: tina morana on Sunday 03 November 13 09:26 GMT (UK)
Just to say what an amazing amount of info in Anx for this surname, staggering going back so far with probates etc.
Good luck with your search.
Tina m  :)

Here's a link I found
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=448536.0
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: lyraea on Sunday 03 November 13 18:00 GMT (UK)
Hi Tina

Thanks for the 'good luck'-as you can see I need it.   That post in the forum link you sent was put there by me but I haven't progressed with Ferdinando since then-sadly.   Every now and then I sit down and spend a few hours looking for more and I am sure at some stage it will be there.

Steve - can you tell me what your connection to this family.   

thanks
lyraea
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: JaneyCanuck on Monday 04 November 13 22:41 GMT (UK)
Just a note about the name -- Ferdinando is really the Italian version.
Spanish or Portuguese would be Fernando; French would be Fernand.

Blampin seems to be a rarer variant of Blampain.
If you search for both surnames here:
http://www.geopatronyme.com/
you get results for births with each surname in France between 1891 and 1990, just for illustrative purposes -- there are 10 times as many Blampain as Blampin births in each period (you can click to see the map for the various periods). They are particularly concentrated in the area around Calais in each period.

FamilySearch shows records for a Fernand Blampain born 1908 in France, for instance.
There are a handful with the Blampin spelling in the Canadian phone book today, probably all related. I would doubt that your Ferdinando originated in Canada; movement in that direction at that time from Quebec or Acadia to the UK would be very unusual.

So it's an odd combo of names! At least when you find one, you'll know it's him. ;)

Just doing a quick search at FS, you've seen that there are Blampin births in Devon as early as 1632? and in the early 1700s, with various fathers. In 1634 there is also the spelling Blampyn. There are clusters in Farway and Sidbury, not far from Cullompton. I would really think that your Ferdinando belongs to that clan, which was in Devon a good century before his birth, rather than that he himself was from away.

Also, you've seen the info on line saying this is a Huguenot name in SW England?
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: moombaprince on Saturday 09 November 13 10:54 GMT (UK)
Hi , I seen the surname Frost when looking back at our chat messages , and if you are chasing Symes then you might have info on Mary Frost , John's wife.  Hope you can help , thanks Steve.( I can perhaps pass on all I have on the Symes Line in return. That particular John Symes was a Carpenter. His son John Frost Symes ended up a greengrocer in Melbourne.)
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: lyraea on Saturday 09 November 13 18:27 GMT (UK)
I never thought of looking down an Italian line but had it stuck in my head that he was French.   Another path to follow - thanks.   I agree with you comment about Ferdinando probably not originating in Canada but when you are a bit stuck you tend to follow all paths although I haven't spent to much time in that region for him.  Interesting site you sent as well and I will have a much closer look at it.  I am sure that Ferdinando was born in Devon as I believe his father is Thomas Blampin and mother Jane Maudit.   I found a marriage for them in 1718 and although I haven't found his birth/chr/bap record yet given his first child was called Thomas Maudit it seems that this is correct.   Also found a possible sister called Constance but yet to prove her.

Steve - Yes I do have info on Mary Frost although only back one generation at this point.  I am interested in John Symes - I have his descendants but nothing back beyond him.   I sent my email address so you can email me if you like.   

thanks
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: RobinRedBreast on Friday 15 June 18 09:58 BST (UK)
As I was reading this and noticed that someone else mentioned Sidbury:

One of my 8x great granddad's was Nicholas Blampin.
Nicholas married Elizabeth Pidgeon in Sidbury, on the 1st of April 1741.
I only managed to find this out because the Bishop's Transcripts are on Family Search.
However, they only appear to go up to around 1798, and some of the pages have many entries missing:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-893K-NFL5

I can only find that they had one daughter (they probably had more children though), my 7x great grandma, Sarah Blampin, baptised on the 30th of October 1742 in Sidbury.
Sarah possibly married William Carnell in Ottery St Mary, on the 22nd of April 1761.

Thank you.  :) ;)
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: lyraea on Saturday 16 June 18 11:29 BST (UK)
Hi there.   Thanks for the info.  I am not sure who Nicholas is but one assumes that as he was married in 1741 he was probably born between 1710 & 1720ish.  Ferdinando was married in 1757 so he was probably born between 1720 and 1730ish.  SO Ferdinando and Nicholas could have been brothers or may cousins.  I don't have any of Ferdinando's siblings. Your post has motivated me to check further into this line given things come on line all the time so you never know what may have turned up recently.  Also I know I have heard of Nicholas before but not sure where but he does sound familiar. Are the only Blampins you have Nicholas and his wife Elizabeth and daughter Sarah?
Thanks
Sandra
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: RobinRedBreast on Saturday 16 June 18 12:49 BST (UK)
Hi there.   Thanks for the info.  I am not sure who Nicholas is but one assumes that as he was married in 1741 he was probably born between 1710 & 1720ish.  Ferdinando was married in 1757 so he was probably born between 1720 and 1730ish.  SO Ferdinando and Nicholas could have been brothers or may cousins.  I don't have any of Ferdinando's siblings. Your post has motivated me to check further into this line given things come on line all the time so you never know what may have turned up recently.  Also I know I have heard of Nicholas before but not sure where but he does sound familiar. Are the only Blampins you have Nicholas and his wife Elizabeth and daughter Sarah?
Thanks
Sandra
Hello,
Yes, they are the only Blampins I have found so far. I cannot find anymore that I can see.
The problem is that the some of the parish registers of Sidbury, were destroyed in a fire some time in the 19th century. The only parish registers that survived were from around 1812 onwards.
The Bishops Transcripts of Sidbury 1610-1798, do survive. But there are some key gaps in what survives: You get so far looking through on family search, and then there are rips in the middle of the pages etc. But some are in good condition.
This means that it is hard to trace back putting who fits into what person.
According to family search, there was a William Blampin who married an Elizabeth Burgess, in Sidbury in 1721. It is possible that he may have been the father of Nicholas or Ferdinando. But we may never know for sure:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2LT-QPB

My surname is Ebdon. In 1784 there was an "Easter" Blampin who married a Jonathan Ebdon in Sidbury. Her name may actually have been "Hester" Blampin. I think this Jonathan Ebdon was a Tailor. But I'm not sure how he fits into my Ebdons:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2LT-42P

According to family search here, there was a Nicholas Blampin baptised in Farway in 1713. He was the son of a Gideon, and a Sarah. This page shows that result and a few more baptisms in Sidbury:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&localeSubcountryName=Devonshire&query=%2Bsurname%3ABlampin~%20%2Bbirth_place%3ASidbury~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1700-1800~%20%2Brecord_country%3AEngland%20%2Brecord_subcountry%3A%22England%2CDevonshire%22&collection_id=1473014&offset=20

Thank you.  :) ;)




Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: DRH123 on Saturday 16 June 18 15:09 BST (UK)
A quick glance at the Sidbury BT images on Familysearch shows lots of Blampins in the 1720s, many more than Familysearch's own index has. It appears they have not yet indexed many of the pages, so it would be worth looking through for Ferdinando, if you haven't already.

There are three Fardinando Mawditts baptised in Broad Clyst, 1724, 1729 and 1730. That fits well with Ferdinando Blampin's mother being a Mawditt, with the Christian name being imported from that side of the family. Another Fardinando Mawditt baptised in 1691 could be Ferdinando Blampin's grandfather.

David
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: DRH123 on Saturday 16 June 18 16:16 BST (UK)

According to family search here, there was a Nicholas Blampin baptised in Farway in 1713. He was the son of a Gideon, and a Sarah.


Nicholas son of Gideon Blampin was baptised at Sidbury 8 Mar 1714/15

There are later baptisms in the Sidbury BTs for children of Gideon and Sarah. I expect it's the same couple that were at Farway, the first Nicholas having died.

David
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: lyraea on Sunday 17 June 18 00:24 BST (UK)
Thanks to you both for the info and links.  It's interesting isn't it. 

Hi David.  Good to hear from you again.  I have to confess I am not sure what you mean by Sidbury BT images on Family and Family Searches own Indexes - sorry.  However that is interesting information you have there and I haven't looked for a Ferdinando Mawditt/Maudit at all.  I did try and find something for Jane Maudit but found nothing.  Of course records are being added all the time. Anyway with the Ferdinando Mawditt you mentioned baptised 1691, I would think he is probably Fedinando Blampin's uncle. Jane Maudit and Thomas Blampin were married in 1718 so I have Jane's birth about 1693. Will wait to hear from you re the BT images.  Thanks


Hi Robin? Depending on how old Jonathan was when he married do you think it is possible he was alive at the time of the 1841 census.  He would have been between about 75-90 I guess.  Worth a look at the Devon census for him and his wife as she could have been younger than him.  Was Ebdon a common name - I've never seen it before so just wondered whether it is worth working down from whatever info you have on your father side thru the census although you have probably done that already. Interesting also about Nicholas. I don't know what access you have to Ancestry or Find Past but I have full access if you want me to look anything up for you. 
 
No the Blampins are not easy to track although there are plenty of them and since a lot of the records were lost in a fire it makes it more difficult. I will do some more hunting and let you know what I come up with, if anything. Thanks
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: DRH123 on Sunday 17 June 18 01:08 BST (UK)
Thanks to you both for the info and links.  It's interesting isn't it. 

Hi David.  Good to hear from you again.  I have to confess I am not sure what you mean by Sidbury BT images on Family and Family Searches own Indexes - sorry.


Familysearch have a large collection of images of Devon BTs. Those for Sidbury are at https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L93K-NFB2   Not all years have survived but they do have, among others, 1713-1717 (starting at image 56) and 1720-1730 (starting at image 72). Also some badly damaged ones without date that probably come between those two periods and from just before.

However, if you search for Sidbury baptisms from that period on Familysearch you will only get results from 1721. The other years have not been indexed yet.

Yes, I muddled the Fardinando Mawditt dates. It is more likely that the one born in 1691 was Ferdinando Blampin's uncle and his father, also Fardinando, the grandfather.

I also misread the date for the Nicholas Blampin at Sidbury. It was 8 Mar 1713/14, the same day as the baptism at Farway. It looks like both records are for the same Nicholas. Either he was actually baptised twice, or perhaps the family lived in one parish but baptised him at the other and the vicar of their home parish decided to record it there as well. (It may well be that the Sidbury PR had an explanation but the vicar didn't bother to copy that into the BT.)

David
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: RobinRedBreast on Sunday 17 June 18 08:42 BST (UK)
Thanks to you both for the info and links.  It's interesting isn't it. 

Hi David.  Good to hear from you again.  I have to confess I am not sure what you mean by Sidbury BT images on Family and Family Searches own Indexes - sorry.


Familysearch have a large collection of images of Devon BTs. Those for Sidbury are at https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L93K-NFB2   Not all years have survived but they do have, among others, 1713-1717 (starting at image 56) and 1720-1730 (starting at image 72). Also some badly damaged ones without date that probably come between those two periods and from just before.

However, if you search for Sidbury baptisms from that period on Familysearch you will only get results from 1721. The other years have not been indexed yet.

Yes, I muddled the Fardinando Mawditt dates. It is more likely that the one born in 1691 was Ferdinando Blampin's uncle and his father, also Fardinando, the grandfather.

I also misread the date for the Nicholas Blampin at Sidbury. It was 8 Mar 1713/14, the same day as the baptism at Farway. It looks like both records are for the same Nicholas. Either he was actually baptised twice, or perhaps the family lived in one parish but baptised him at the other and the vicar of their home parish decided to record it there as well. (It may well be that the Sidbury PR had an explanation but the vicar didn't bother to copy that into the BT.)

David

Hello there,

Thank you for finding a baptism of Nicholas in Sidbury, and other children of Gideon baptised there. I will have a look at the Sidbury Bishop's Transcripts.

Cheers.  :) ;)
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 17 June 18 10:29 BST (UK)
FreeREG has some Blampin records.

Also a Ferdinando MO(UN)DIT married Elizabeth COMMONS 21 Sep 1684, St Andrew, Cullompton
( A Thomas Mandit also married there 1683)

I can only find 1 child on there Father Ferdinando;
SARAH Ma(un)dit 17 Dec 1684

Trish :)
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: DRH123 on Sunday 17 June 18 11:27 BST (UK)
FreeREG has some Blampin records.

Also a Ferdinando MO(UN)DIT married Elizabeth COMMONS 21 Sep 1684, St Andrew, Cullompton
( A Thomas Mandit also married there 1683)

I can only find 1 child on there Father Ferdinando;
SARAH Ma(un)dit 17 Dec 1684

Trish :)

I put those Cullompton records on FreeREG (based on the transcripts by Peter Bazley and Elizabeth Howard). The writer at that time made his "u"s and "n"s identically which is why I put the [UN] showing it could be either. Seeing as it seems to be the same surname as Mawditt I suppose we can assume that Moudit and Maudit were intended here.  (He spells Francis with a double consonant in the middle, but despite dozens of examples I still can't decide if he means Frauncis or Franncis.)


The Ferdinando name was in the family as far back to the 1620s, when three children of Fardynando Mawditt were baptised at Cullompton.

David
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: lyraea on Sunday 17 June 18 11:39 BST (UK)
Yes and it is good to know because I have searched many places (not the Sidbury BTs) but almost everywhere else and I have never some across one.  Also I would have thought that the Blampins (and now maybe the Maudits) went back into France later than what it appears they did. So they may have come to England before most of the records started in the early 1500s.
I am looking forward to trying to tie this all together in the next couple of days.  I have been trying to sort out about 3 or 4 other families that are only only in the late 1700 to early 1800s but it is about time I tried to look at other family lines.  So I am really grateful for your help with this.  Thanks David.

Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: RobinRedBreast on Sunday 17 June 18 22:19 BST (UK)


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I also misread the date for the Nicholas Blampin at Sidbury. It was 8 Mar 1713/14, the same day as the baptism at Farway. It looks like both records are for the same Nicholas. Either he was actually baptised twice, or perhaps the family lived in one parish but baptised him at the other and the vicar of their home parish decided to record it there as well. (It may well be that the Sidbury PR had an explanation but the vicar didn't bother to copy that into the BT.)

David
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Thank you.
I found out that a Gideon Blampin married a Sarah Street in Farway on the 7th of April 1713.
Nicholas was baptised on March the 8th 1713 at either Sidbury/ Farway.
Before 1752, it appears that the Calendar year began around March the 25th.
So Gideon and Sarah were married near the beginning of that year, and Nicholas was baptised near the end of that calendar year.
I found on family search transcriptions for children baptised from the pair in Farway between Nicholas in 1713 (who is also on the Sidbury Bishops Transcripts), and the last one in 1726.
I only found one other born from the pair put down in the Sidbury transcripts, and that was Thomas, baptised on the 8th of December 1723.

Thank you.  :) ;)
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: RobinRedBreast on Tuesday 19 June 18 17:07 BST (UK)
Thanks to you both for the info and links.  It's interesting isn't it. 



Hi Robin? Depending on how old Jonathan was when he married do you think it is possible he was alive at the time of the 1841 census.  He would have been between about 75-90 I guess.  Worth a look at the Devon census for him and his wife as she could have been younger than him.  Was Ebdon a common name - I've never seen it before so just wondered whether it is worth working down from whatever info you have on your father side thru the census although you have probably done that already. Interesting also about Nicholas. I don't know what access you have to Ancestry or Find Past but I have full access if you want me to look anything up for you. 
 

Hello,
Regarding Jonathan Ebdon:
The only Jonathan Ebdon I can find in the Sidbury BT's is one baptised September the 6th 1741, the son of an Edmond Ebdon, (image page 126).
Then on April the 17th 1767 (image page 183): A Jonathan Ebdon married a Mary Hutchins in Sidbury.
"Easter" (Hester?) Blampin and Jonathan Ebdon were married on the 20th of September 1784 in Sidbury.
I found a burial in Sidbury for "Easter/Hester" Ebdon for the year 1833. Her estimated year of birth was put down as 1760. But I can't seem to find a baptism for a Hester Blampin (in Sidbury anyway) for around 1760. The marriage register states that they were "both of the parish."
There was a Jonathan Ebdon who was buried in Sidbury in 1810. That is the only burial I can find for a Jonathan Ebdon.
It gets a little confusing though:
The 1784 marriage of Jonathan Ebdon abbreviated: "Jno" and Easter Blampin (image page 237 Sidbury BT's) states that Jonathan was a "Blacksmith".
The "Devon Wills Index, 1163-1999 Transcription" for Jonathan Ebdon that died in 1810 in Sidbury states that he was a Tailor.
I suppose they could be both the same person who became a Tailor after first being a Blacksmith.
But I'm not sure, because that seems a little strange to me.

Regarding my Ebdon's generally:
My earliest direct Ebdon ancestor I have been able to verify is my 8x great granddad John Ebdon (1702-1791):
John Ebdon "a labourer of Sidbury", as stated in the marriage register, married Mary Isack/ Isaac at Clyst Hydon, on the 13th of November 1727. 
Because of the state of the Bishops Transcripts, I have not been able to find a baptism for John. But his birth year comes from his estimated age put down at burial of 89 years. John was buried on the 24th of April 1791 in Sidbury. His burial is on Sidbury BT image pages 289-290.
John's wife Mary Isaac was baptised on the 2nd of September 1703 in Clyst Hydon. So if John's estimated age at burial is correct, it is not many months off from his wife's age.
This John was possibly the same John Ebdon who signed the Sidbury Oath Rolls of 1723.

I suppose Ebdon is not all that much a common name really. However, there do seem to have been  quite a few in Devon.
Apart from Sidbury, there appear to have been branches in: Ottery Saint Mary, Salcombe Regis, and Sidmouth. These are all near to Sidbury.

There have been Ebdons in Sidbury from before 1608. There is a farm in Sidbury called: "Ebdon's Farm."
A William Ebdon was witness to the Will of Christian Clapp, wife of Richard, in 1608. A Thomas Ebdon, among others took her Inventory, on August the 9th 1608:
https://mathcs.clarku.edu/~djoyce/gen/report/rr01/rr01_146.html
From the first pages of the Sidbury Bishops Transcripts up to 1624 (from what I can read of them), it mentions: Thomas, William, and Anthony Ebdon . A Thomas Ebdon was buried in 1624.
According to the Sidbury Bishop Transcript image page 4, there may have been a Thomas Ebdon who was a Church Warden. He is on a list of names with a few other people at the bottom of some burials. It probably I think says "Wardens" next to a list with his name on, but I can't quite read what it says.

But alas, because of the state of the Bishop's Transcripts and key baptisms missing/ not viewable:
 I am unable to link up my John Ebdon "of Sidbury", who married in 1727, with the earlier Ebdons in the Sidbury Bishop's Transcripts I mentioned above. But I feel certain that there must be link.

Thank you very much.  :) ;)






Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: DRH123 on Tuesday 19 June 18 18:28 BST (UK)

It gets a little confusing though:
The 1784 marriage of Jonathan Ebdon abbreviated: "Jno" and Easter Blampin (image page 237 Sidbury BT's) states that Jonathan was a "Blacksmith".
The "Devon Wills Index, 1163-1999 Transcription" for Jonathan Ebdon that died in 1810 in Sidbury states that he was a Tailor.
I suppose they could be both the same person who became a Tailor after first being a Blacksmith.
But I'm not sure, because that seems a little strange to me.


 Some people will tell you, Jno never means Jonathan. I wouldn't be quite as dogmatic, but certainly agree it almost always means John. It would be interesting if it can be proved that this groom was Jonathan. Are there any children for Jonathan and Esther/Hester? Have you seen the Abstract of the Will? it may mention his wife.

David
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: RobinRedBreast on Wednesday 20 June 18 09:44 BST (UK)

It gets a little confusing though:
The 1784 marriage of Jonathan Ebdon abbreviated: "Jno" and Easter Blampin (image page 237 Sidbury BT's) states that Jonathan was a "Blacksmith".
The "Devon Wills Index, 1163-1999 Transcription" for Jonathan Ebdon that died in 1810 in Sidbury states that he was a Tailor.
I suppose they could be both the same person who became a Tailor after first being a Blacksmith.
But I'm not sure, because that seems a little strange to me.


 Some people will tell you, Jno never means Jonathan. I wouldn't be quite as dogmatic, but certainly agree it almost always means John. It would be interesting if it can be proved that this groom was Jonathan. Are there any children for Jonathan and Esther/Hester? Have you seen the Abstract of the Will? it may mention his wife.

David
Hello,
I have only seen something to do with his Will on Find My Past. It was free to view. It only gave his name as Jonathan, and his occupation as a Tailor.
I have only found one child that "Jno" and Hester Ebdon had from a burial in the Bishops Transcripts. This was not long before the transcripts stopped around 1789:
"John Ebdon, son of Jno and Hester Ebdon - July 22 1788 - 11 months old: Cause of Death - Consumption."
Interestingly below this further down there is a burial for James Blampin, aged 70 years, and a Mary Blampin aged 63 years, (all on image page 265):
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G93K-NJ9F?i=264

Thank you.  :) ;)

Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: DRH123 on Wednesday 20 June 18 14:46 BST (UK)
FindMYPast's Devon Will Index is an index to several sources. The entry for Jonathan Ebdon has source DDR1 which refers to the Death Duty Register held by the National Archives. It is primarily a record of the taxes paid at death but there is usually a brief abstract of the will concerned. Copies of records from 1796-1811 can be purchased online, for £3.50. Jonathan Ebden in 1810 should therefore be available, but a straightforward search on their website doesn't find him. However if you search for anyone from Sidbury in 1810 he turns up!

 http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7179187

The first thing to notice is that it's an Abstract of Administration, not of a Will. That means he didn't have a Will but someone was appointed to administer his estate. It also means there may not be much detail, just the name and relationship of the administrator.

If you click on "Preview a low-resolution image of this record" you can get a poor image but there's enough to see his administrator was a son Edmund, also a Taylor from Sidbury. There is a column for next of kin but it's either empty or has been removed from the free image. I suspect that if his wife was still alive (and of "sound mind") she would have been the adminstrator so it's looking less likely that this Jonathan was married to Hester.

There was a Edmond Ebdon buried at Sidbury in 1851, aged 83. He appears as a Tailor in the 1841 census. So he was born well before the wedding of Jno and Hester and is presumably a child of Jonathan Ebdon and Mary Hutchins who married in 1767.

It looks very probable that Jno and Jonathan are different people.

David
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: RobinRedBreast on Thursday 21 June 18 18:13 BST (UK)
FindMYPast's Devon Will Index is an index to several sources. The entry for Jonathan Ebdon has source DDR1 which refers to the Death Duty Register held by the National Archives. It is primarily a record of the taxes paid at death but there is usually a brief abstract of the will concerned. Copies of records from 1796-1811 can be purchased online, for £3.50. Jonathan Ebden in 1810 should therefore be available, but a straightforward search on their website doesn't find him. However if you search for anyone from Sidbury in 1810 he turns up!

 http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7179187

The first thing to notice is that it's an Abstract of Administration, not of a Will. That means he didn't have a Will but someone was appointed to administer his estate. It also means there may not be much detail, just the name and relationship of the administrator.

If you click on "Preview a low-resolution image of this record" you can get a poor image but there's enough to see his administrator was a son Edmund, also a Taylor from Sidbury. There is a column for next of kin but it's either empty or has been removed from the free image. I suspect that if his wife was still alive (and of "sound mind") she would have been the adminstrator so it's looking less likely that this Jonathan was married to Hester.

There was a Edmond Ebdon buried at Sidbury in 1851, aged 83. He appears as a Tailor in the 1841 census. So he was born well before the wedding of Jno and Hester and is presumably a child of Jonathan Ebdon and Mary Hutchins who married in 1767.

It looks very probable that Jno and Jonathan are different people.

David

Thank you,

From the Bishop's Transcripts there was a Jonathan baptised in 1741 in Sidbury:
"Jonathan Ebdon, a son of Edmond Ebdon -Sep 6th.":  image page 126.
This may possibly be the Jonathan who married in 1767, and died in 1810.

The Edmond you mention was probably baptised on February the 12th 1768 in Sidbury:
" Edmond, son of Jonathan Ebdon". This is on image page 185 of the Sidbury BT's.

If "Jno" is John and not Jonathan then the one that might fit is this from the Sidbury BT's image page 162:
(Baptisms: 1759):
"John, base child of Susanna Ebdon - October 14th"
This would be only one year out from the estimated birth year (1760) recorded at burial for Hester Ebdon in 1833.

This John was possibly the son of Susanna who was baptised in 1734 in Sidbury, shown on image page 107.
Susanna was a sister of my 7x great granddad, also called John Ebdon! John Ebdon junior my 7x great granddad was baptised in Sidbury, on the 11th of July 1728.

Thank you very much.  :) ;)

Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: RobinRedBreast on Saturday 31 August 19 12:34 BST (UK)
Hi there.   Thanks for the info.  I am not sure who Nicholas is but one assumes that as he was married in 1741 he was probably born between 1710 & 1720ish.  Ferdinando was married in 1757 so he was probably born between 1720 and 1730ish.  SO Ferdinando and Nicholas could have been brothers or may cousins.  I don't have any of Ferdinando's siblings. Your post has motivated me to check further into this line given things come on line all the time so you never know what may have turned up recently.  Also I know I have heard of Nicholas before but not sure where but he does sound familiar. Are the only Blampins you have Nicholas and his wife Elizabeth and daughter Sarah?
Thanks
Sandra



Hello,

Since this posting I have found some more Blampins in my ancestry:

Daniel Blampin and Sarah Cawly who married in March 1758 in Sidbury were my 7x great grandparents:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G93K-NJSY?i=158

I have no idea where or when this Daniel could have been baptised. If it was in Sidbury, then it may have been written on a page which has been damaged.

They were the parents of Esther Blampin, (who I found out was my 6x great grandma) baptised 1759 in Sidbury who married John Ebdon in 1784.

Thank you.
Title: Re: BLAMPIN - Cullompton
Post by: DRH123 on Wednesday 14 July 21 12:38 BST (UK)
Since my previous posts in this thread I have found that I also probably have Blampin ancestors! Specifically an Alyse Blampin who married William Pomeroy at Gittisham in 1603. I don't know much about her with any certainty. She may be the Alse Blampin who was baptised there in 1579 (no parental details recorded), who may be a daughter of Thomas Blampyng and Joan Fowler who married there a few months earlier. It appears Joan died in 1582. A Thomas Blampin had a number of children at Gittisham from 1591 onwards. He died in 1622 and one of the appraisers of the inventory of his goods was a William Pomeroy so it's certainly possible he's the same Thomas. On the other hand, his daughter Cecily (d 1653) left a goldmine of a will, naming many brothers and brothers-in-law and nephews and nieces (not her sisters, but there are matching wedding records giving their names). Unfortunately she doesn't include any Pomeroys. Perhaps she wasn't so close to her possible half-sister, or perhaps it's a different family.

However - and of more interest to other posters - her brothers include a Nicholas and a Gideon, and they had sons called Nicholas and Gideon. So it is likely that this Thomas is an ancestor of the Nicholas son of Gideon discussed earlier.

David