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Title: jemima davis c 1809
Post by: debbi2k on Tuesday 16 November 04 15:49 GMT (UK)
Can anyone SKS find this ladies marriage to Nicholas Morgan in Eglwysilan Glamorgan c 1830s please?

Many thanks

Debbi
Title: Re: jemima davis c 1809
Post by: Welsh Jen on Tuesday 16 November 04 16:34 GMT (UK)
Found this entry:
Title: Re: jemima davis c 1809
Post by: debbi2k on Tuesday 16 November 04 17:11 GMT (UK)
Thank you for that.

Could you also find their baptisms please if possible?

Is there anyway to find their parents from the these records?

Many many thanks

Debbi
Title: Re: jemima davis c 1809
Post by: Welsh Jen on Tuesday 16 November 04 17:50 GMT (UK)
This source is only for the Marriages in Glamorgan 1569 until civil registration.
The information I have given on this couple is all that I have.

With regards to finding the parents names for both you may have to view the parish records for such information. This Genuki link may help in locating where these parish registers are kept:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Eglwysilan/

(please note genuki site is currently unavailable)
Title: Re: jemima davis c 1809
Post by: debbi2k on Tuesday 16 November 04 18:00 GMT (UK)
Thank you once again for your help.
As I live in Devon I wont be able to visit and consult parish records so I guess my reserch will stop with them.

Hugs

Debbi
Title: Re: jemima davis c 1809
Post by: Welsh Jen on Tuesday 16 November 04 18:15 GMT (UK)
I just checked the LDS site and came up with this entry:

Jemima Davies 
Female   
Event(s): Birth:  About 1814   Of, Eglwysilan, Glamorgan, Wales
Marriages: Spouse:  Nicholas Morgan  Family
Marriage:  11 MAY 1835   

Nicolas Morgan 
Male   
Event(s): Birth:  1802  Glamorgan, Wales or
About 1810  Of, Eglwysilan, Glamorgan, Wales
Marriages: Spouse:  Jemima Davies  Family
Marriage:  11 MAY 1835   
 

No mention of parents names either
 
Title: Re: jemima davis c 1809
Post by: debbi2k on Tuesday 16 November 04 18:18 GMT (UK)
thanks again for that.

Was there a 1831 census in Wales??

Debbi
Title: Re: jemima davis c 1809
Post by: Welsh Jen on Tuesday 16 November 04 18:23 GMT (UK)
The 1st detailed census was the 1841 census which became even more detailed by 1851 & 61.

There was an 1831 census but universally these earlier census returns were literally head counts no detail can be gained from them at all.

Just found these references also from the LDS site too, may be worth you keeping them for future reference:

Ann MORGAN (AFN: 18PB-31T)  Pedigree
Sex:  F Family 
Event(s): Birth:   1767 Wales
Christening:   17 Oct 1767 Eglwysilan, Glamorgan, Wales
Death:   Feb 1828 Eglwysilan, Glamorgan, Wales
Burial:   8 Feb 1828 Eglwysilan, Glamorgan, Wales

Parents: Father:  David MORGAN (AFN: 18PB-2ZG)   
Mother:  Jennet EVAN (AFN: 18PB-30M)   
 
Marriage(s): Spouse:  Phillip WILLIAMS (AFN: 18PB-2X8)  Family  Marriage:  31 Jan 1807  Eglwysilan, Glamorgan, Wales
Ann DAVIES (AFN: N0FN-LV)  Pedigree
Sex:  F Family 
Event(s): Birth:   1823 Christening:   14 Aug 1823 Llanfabon, Glamorgan, Wales Death:   25 Nov 1887 Eglwysilan, Glamorgan, Wales

Parents: Father:  Thomas DAVIES (AFN: GR28-GR)   
Mother:  Mary JONES (AFN: GR28-HX)   
 
Marriage(s): Spouse:  Thomas JENKINS (AFN: N0FN-KP)   
Marriage:  1848 Glamorgan, Wales 


   

     
Title: Re: jemima davis c 1809
Post by: debbi2k on Tuesday 16 November 04 18:26 GMT (UK)
Thanks again Jan you are a star ;D

Can I bother you for one last thing or can you point me in the right direction for a 1841 census look up for themn with daughter Elizabeth Morgan born 1840 Newport Mon?

Debbi ::)
Title: Re: jemima davis c 1809
Post by: Welsh Jen on Tuesday 16 November 04 18:29 GMT (UK)
Already looked in 1841, cannot find a Jemima at all, also searched for Nicholas (with spelling variants)

Did find a Jemima Morgan in the 1851 census which matches her estimated birth year but the husbands name is different

2454 1851 CENSUS OF LISVANE PARISH. REF.H.O.107/2454, E.D.8.                                                                         

Piece: 2454      Folio: 186     Schedule: 043

Address: LISVANE               

MORGAN JOHN                HD M  50   AG. LAB.                 
                                      GLA EGLWYSILAN                   (c1801)
MORGAN JEMIMA              WI M  38   AG. LAB.'S WIFE           
                                      GLA EGLWYSILAN                   (c1813)
MORGAN DANIEL              SO U   7   AG. LAB.'S SON           
                                      GLA EGLWYSILAN                   (c1844)
MORGAN WILLIAM             SO U   5   AG. LAB.'S SON           
                                      GLA EGLWYSILAN                   (c1846)
It could be his middle name? as the birth is around the right time

If you need a look up with Monmouthshire, post a request on the look up request board for Monmouthshire http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=189.0

Regards Jen
Title: Re: jemima davis c 1809
Post by: debbi2k on Tuesday 16 November 04 18:44 GMT (UK)
Jan thankx a million i feel guilty asking anymore tonight so I shall leave you in peace til tomorrow and then I shall come back with a bit more Welsh stuff for you.

Anytime you have Devon stuff you need looking up pop into my little genealogy site and ask me ;D

Debbi
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Title: Re: jemima davis c 1809
Post by: debbi2k on Friday 21 January 05 12:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Jan,

I have found amongst my many papers a census return for Nicholas and Jemima in Upper Machen.

I guess I will turn my attention to the Mnmouthshire board now.

Debbi
Title: Re: jemima davis c 1809
Post by: Welsh Jen on Friday 21 January 05 13:55 GMT (UK)
I hope you find more information soon!

Thanks for the offer relating the Devon, I may just do that with My Taylor and Cann families!  :P

Kind Regards Jen  ;)