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Looking for infomation on William O'Connor born cork 1880 Died 1931 married Ellen Foote Febuary 7th 1904
They had several children one of which was my dad Patrick who was the youngest of the family and came to Birmingham UK ,Ellen had a sister called Margaret who died i believe in London in the early 1960's
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I was hoping not to follow this path but my granddad was put in to a children's home when he was not long born not to sure? his mother said she was going to come back for him but never did My granddad i think went to a children's home called st Joseph's
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i know i am related to a Lyons and Harrington's my auntie was Mary (May). her son Tom became a Priest later in life
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Have you looked for his birth in the indexes? As he was born post 1864, it should have been registered. These are available at the Dublin GRO (in person or Roscommon by post) or on film at your local family history centre. (Church of the latter day saints) http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp for your nearest.
Same for his marriage and death.
Kate
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No i have not ,
I am new to this so it's hard to know where to start looking .Thank's to people like you Kated it helps to push us along really appreciate this..... Pat
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trying to trace grannies side Ellen Foote, found out William was buried with her family in tracton cork Presbyterian church / grave yard it 's like trying to put together a jigsaw ,trouble is family member's do not know of us so hopefully, names just ring a bell
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Hi Again
Still searching for these two i was hoping i would find them at least on the 1911 census, but not much luck so far.
Are there record's missing sorry if the question has already been asked
Little Annie
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Think I found them in 1911 Census in a townland called Ardmore-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001849385/
This Ellen O'Connor says she's been married for 7 years and by searcing the civil index for Ellen Foote and William O'Connor separately, then cross-referencing the results comes the marriage details from the index-
Ellen FOOTT married Jan/Mar 1904 Kinsale registration district volume 5 page 287 (same details for a William O'Connor).
With the above you can order the marriage certificate which will give exact place and date of marriage, their occupations, residences at time of marriage, and hopefully fathers' names and occupations.
www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm
Also- birth registration for Ellen FOOTT (same spelling as marriage)- Jan./Mar.1884 Kinsale registration district
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347
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Thank you Aghadowey your a star.
I would still be looking to doomsday maybe the name foote as i have always been told was wrong Little Annie
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Just in case you have to do more searching I'll explain how I got them so quickly :)
1911 census- I searched for William Connor (not O'Connor) age 31 in Co. Cork. The search brought up only 5 Williams- 3 Connor + 2 O'Connor. If William was born in 1881 he would either be 31 or 30 years old at time of census, so I checked the one in Ardmore first and he had a wife named Ellen. Ellen (and William) married 7 years which meant married 1903 or 1904.
Then went to index of civil registrations and search for Ellen Foote marriage (as her name was far more uncommon)- Ellen Foott married 1904 in Kinsale district. Next did search for William O'Connor (and no other details)- 3,314 entries.
Refined search (at top of page) by place (Cork)- 504 entries.
-Idea is to find a match for Ellen Foott's marriage-
Refined search by date (1900-1909)- 63 entries.
Refined search by event (marriage)- 14 entries.
Went through the 14 records and got a match!
There are quite a few Foott's in Cork which you might want to follow up later in 1911 census, etc.
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Infomation after discussing it with family relatives seems to be correct . I did talk to my cousin about the name Connor on the census and matching names but he thought they were not the correct ones we were looking for. Why it is Connor on the census & not O'Connor i will now hope to find out maybe a lesson not just for me but other fellow Root Chatter's once again thank you
aghadowey
Little Annie
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It is quite common to find variations in Irish surnames like Connor/O'Connor, McShane/MacShane, etc.
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I am hoping that some one can help me on this one,it gives a Thomas Maloney in the 1911 census living with the family aged 1 .
He is given as cousin but who are his parents, the house they are all living at is House no 5 Ardmore Monks town i believe it may have been a farm called The Hill not to sure on that one though
Little Annie
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Here are the records i received back from Roscommon, Ellen Foott born 1/1/1884, Father Cornelius , Mother Mary maiden name was( Wade) in Kilmoney.
Residence of informant was Margaret Cogan, Kilnaglary
Ellen & William place of marriage was at St Bridget, crosshaven ,Carrigaline.
His address is given Ringaskiddy & Ellen as Kilmoney ,William's father also William was given as deceased.
Ellen's father was Cornelius Foott, witnesses were William Riordan & Nora Wade,
date of marriage was 7th febuary 1904
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My database includes Ringaskiddy marriages and baptisms, 1795-1880, Tracton baptisms, 1803-1880, Tracton marriages, 1841-1880 and Kilmoney (Carrigaline) and Crosshaven marriages and Baptisms, 1826-1880. Connors were at Ringaskiddy from 1795. There were several Cornelius Footes in these parishes, and Wades at Kilmoney. A Thomas Wade, land agent to the Sarsfields' (landlords) Kilmoney property married a Mary Foote in 1872, with several children born by 1880. Write to me via this website's personal message apparatus and tell me if you have Excel. I will then e-mail you an Excel sheet showing Connor, Foote and Wade connections.
Frank Thompson
P.S. There was never a Presbyterian church at Tracton, and I don't see any Footes or Connors buried in the Tracton graveyard.
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Could anyone give me infomation on who would be most likely to have records held on William from his time in care?
Little Annie
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Hi Little Annie,
There are a few orphanages named St Josephs in Cork. They were also known as industrial schools.
One which might be relevant to you would be St Josephs Industrial school for boys, Passage West, Co Cork. Passage West is quite near to Carrigaline and Ringaskiddy. Google St Josephs industrial school for boys Passage West and you get a lot of history- very sad and tragic unfortunately. Have a look at http://www.nationalarchives.ie/research/health.html . There was also a St Josephs Industrial school in Greenmount, Cork City.
On some of the sites they say that the Mercy nuns who ran some of the orphanages did not keep any records, and some of the inspectors reports were destroyed.
You could also try contacting the Health Board in Cork www.hse.ie and see if they could help with your search.
Good luck
Mary
Celtic Liberty
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Hello Celtic Liberty
thank you for help & advice maybe i will have a little luck and finally find out about William and both his parents
Little Annie
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Hi Little Annie,
I found some information in relation to Harrington, Wade, Conor( note spelling) & Foote grave photo with all above names , which you would be interested in
Send me PM with your email and I will forward to you.
Mary
Celtic Liberty
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Hi wondering did you receive the photos I sent by email?
Mary
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Hello celtic liberty
Sorry about the delay in answering,I thought i sent you a PM but i must have done something wrong .
Yes i did get the photos i already had the Foots & Wade head stones but i only got them from a distant relative who i decided to go through Phone Directory before Christmas, not William
At last i now have conformation that Willam is buried with the Footes and hopefully one day get across to pay my last respects.
Ellen was buried with her son Cornelius O'Connor & wife in Cork city maybe the grave was to full . I found a few more footes on the 1901 census to chase now & wades
thank you Mary for taking time & trouble to stop and think about some one else when you could have just walked passed, it really means a lot to me
Patrick
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That's good. You have a little bit more to work on now.
Mary
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I have a church record for
John Foot 1/8/1853 of Ballycounan
Parents
Cornelius Foot & Ellen Goggin (COGAN) ?
Sponsors
1 Denis Foot
2 Ellen Callanan would that be Callaghan
area Ballygarvan
I think they might be Ellen's grandparents & uncle
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Hi again,
I also have photos from Templebreedy Cemetery Crosshaven which you might be interested in
Mary
Celtic Liberty
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Hello
Going off the subject of this topic, I read that you was inquiring about John Nelson and Sarah Harkin. They would have been my Great grandparents. I am sure my Aunt has a photo of them tucked away somewhere.
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If I can fill in some gaps then I will help
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TJKM
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Hello trelawneyjkm
thanks for your reply, need a bit more info before going down the other routes it would be great to know if we are related.
Can you keep this subject on the Donegal page thanks
Little Annie
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Cain Mahoney born29/1/1852 Ballyganane
Father Bryan Mahoney
Mother Joan Foott
Sponsor Denis Foott
Sponsor Norry Coveny
Would i be correct that Denis is Joan's Father
I was just wondering is that where Thomas Mahoney comes in the 1911 census as cousin with the connors
Little Annie
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I have two marriage records for the WADE family thanks to ftcorkmdb .
John Wade & Mary Swiney 23/8/1846 Kilnagleary they had Six children
Thomas Wade & Mary Foott 21/4/1872 no location they also had six children
with twin daughters Catherine & Honora born 1880.
I can add the other children if necessary
Little Annie
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Sorry to repeat my self ,but i am still waiting for answer from Trelawneyjkm to futher my HARKIN family info
Thanks Little Annie
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Thought i would add the children's names to see if anyone recognizes anyone.
John Wade & Mary Sweeney, Kilngleary ....14E ?
Tom 17/9/1846
Margaret 12/11/1849
Norry (probably Norah) 17/7/1852
Mary2/5/1856
John 19/4/1858
Micheal 19/4/1861
Thomas Wade & Mary Foote ...Agents of Sarsfield
Mary 10/11/1872
John20/3/1874
Ellen24/4/1876
Catherine & Honora Maria twins3/5/1880
Mary Michael* MM* Thomas male child? 3/7/ 1878
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Anyone intrested in the outcome of William O'Connor i am at present awaiting info mation from the Sisters of Mercy in Dublin.
Possible connections or not ???????
John Wade married Margaret Cogan year 1815?
Ellen 1/4/1816 Ballyduhig
Daniel 19/5/1817 " "
Edmund 28/4/1821 " "
John 16/4/1825 Ballygarvan
9/12/1826 Ballyduhig
John Barry married Mary Cogan 1857 Frenchfurze
John 8/5/1858
Mary 20/5/60
Michael 22/2/1862
Robert 15/4/1864
Anne 6/5/1866
Bartholomew 28/11/1868
Helena 15/9/ 1873
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Hello again
can anyone find me anymore infomation on Denis Foote , i have found a death record for him 1904 aged 75.
But i cannot see him in the 1901 census?
Thanks Little Annie
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Do you have his place of residence and occupation from his death cert ?
That could help harrow down the search, in case his name has been mistranscribed. The name of the informant might help also...
Shane
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Hi Shane
No i have not, i tried the same spelling of Denis on the LDS site and that is what i come up with so its looks like i will have to purchase his death cert and see what is says etc.
While i am typing can any one tell me where is Clontead as there is a Denis as a witness to a baptism i think of the top of my head, thanks for your input anyway Shane.
Patrick
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Hi again
I wonder if anyone could tell me of the late Margaret Coveney of Laharn & tracton wood & her son John Coveney Harrington are related to me as there name is on the family headstone
Thanks Patrick
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Is this my Michael Foote on the 1901 census residents of house 28 The Glen , passage west (monks town)
Michael aged 44
Elizabeth wife aged 33
Ellen daughter aged 10
John son aged 8
Mary daughter aged 6.
I cannot see them on the 1911 census, i noticed Micheal's surname was put down as Fort on the church records
Thanks little Annie
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looks like the same family in 1911 - different townland, but the same DED, so probably that that far away from where they were in 1901...
1911 Foote household - Maulbaun (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Monkstown/Maulbaun/384620/)
and for reference - 1901, Foote household (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Monkstown/The_Glen__Passage_West/1100795/)
Update: "The Glen" is in the townland of Lackaroe, which is immediately south of Maulbaun townland, and a short distance to the south of the centre of the town of Passage West.
Shane
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Thanks shanewe147
Looks promising not familiar with the area, appreciate your help
thanks little Annie
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Sorry to be a pain to anyone ,but can anyone find a possable marriage for Michael & Elizabeth ie 1890? working on Nellie's age
Thank's little annie
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Do you have Elizabeth's maiden name ?
Shane
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Sorry Shane
I wish i had i am just throwing this to the wind & hoping for a few possibility's
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might be an idea to try following up one of the children births to confirm the mother's name.
All the locations mentioned for places of birth for Michael, Elizabeth and the children i.e. Carrigaline, Ballincollig, Ballygarvan & Passage west are in the Cork registration district. If they married in this area then there only appears to be one likely marriage in this district between 1888 and 1892. A Michael Foote, also listed as Michael Footte.
these are the references :
Name: Michael Foote
Registration district: Cork
Event type: Marriage
Quarter and year: Jul-Sep 1890
Volume: 5 / Page: 115
see : Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433040.0.html)
Details included on a Marriage Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433042.0.html)
Shane
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Thank's Shane
look's good let's hope i don't waste my money on this one , one must try though
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there's a possible cross-match to that Michael Foot marriage with an Eliza Mahony
Shane
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You might have a peice of the jigsaw Shane, in the 1911 census i have Thomas Mahoney (cousin) living with William Connor & Ellen Foote/tte etc in monk's town .
That's great Shane
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Where is Ballycounan ( spelling) on church record
Little Annie
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Where is Ballycounan ( spelling) on church record
Little Annie
what denomination & parish ?
also which type of context/record - baptism, bride's address, groom's address...
S.
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Hi Shanew147
I put a previously posting earlier for John Foot for baptism 1853 Ballycounan, his brother Cornelius is Ballyginnane, Michael Foot/e/tte etc no place of baptism using church records online.
All are RC giving it as Douglas & Ballygarvan
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baptism details and image for reference:
Baptism of John Foot FOOT - 1 Aug 1853 (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/7e128c0134172)
RC Parish of Douglas & Ballygarvan, Co. Cork
Both Douglas and Ballygarvan are in the civil parish of Carrigaline, so 'Ballycounan' is likely also in this same civil parish...or one adjacent...
S.
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'Ballycounane' is one of many variant spellings for what is in the Townland Index and Griffith's Valuation 'Ballyginnane'. It is in Liscleary civil parish and Douglas-Ballygarvan Catholic parish.
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Agree with the above. There seems to be two records for John Foot
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?namefm=john&namel=foot&location=douglas&dd=&mm=&yy=&submit=Search
Little Annie, can you link to the records for siblings?
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I am not sure at the moment but the parents match, could you tell me about the name of JNO is that for John ?
Thanks for replies always appreciate everyones help
Little Annie
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Jno is a common abbreviation for John. What are you not sure about?
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The not sure was about jno now we have different dates for the birth ? mind you i have different various spellings for the foote family just when you think you got it something else comes up!!
Little Annie
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You need to go in and look at the original record - the 1853 date is wrong. It should be 1851. So it's actually only two days out - 29 July 1851 and 1 August 1851 for the baptisms. Assume there were two registers in the parish or part of the register was copied or something like this. It's the same person I would think.
I saw the record for brother Michael but don't see a record for Cornelius?
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Hi Sonas
You have to put his surname as CONS FORT baptism 21/5/1853 i have tried put the link in with no success
I also looked at the irish census tonight for John with no success maybe he has passed away!
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I came across your post while nosing around looking for Cain Mahoney who I think was born in 1904. I know for a fact that my Dad's Great Uncle Dan was married to your Joan Foott (your post of June 24, 2010) According to Griffith the Mahoneys and Foottes were neighbors in 1850. There are six children in the family, and Mom's name is spelled six different ways. I have found reference to Cornelius Footte as the tenant next to Cain Mahoney in the Griffith's Valuation.
I am descended from John F. Mahoney, born in 1857. I have been at all kinds of family things with Margaret and Mary Mahoney, Joan Foote's Granddaughters.
If you feel that it would be worth your while, let me know and I will send you what I have.
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Hi Prattville
Any info would be great on what i have the moment !! i have thought that there was a connection but could not be sure .
You will have to make 3 posts before i can contact you by PM
Little Annie
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Hi Prattville
Can you please get back to me on Joan Foote/ Mahony
thanks little Annie
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Please don't hate me. You know. life.... Here's what I have so far: My brother came up with a birth record for Daniel Mahoney, born at Sallymount (?) August 6, 1866. His Father is Daniel, and his mother is Joanna Footte. His siblings are (with spelling of mother's name): Cain (Foott); Margaret (Foot); Mary (Ford); John (Forte); Patrick (Fort). I know that John (my Dad's grandfather) and Daniel (his cousins Margaret and Mary's dad) came to Boston and settled in Boston and Cambridge.
I apologize for the lag, and will try to be more punctual in future.
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I lost count, so in case this makes three...
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I forgot to put in the place names. Coolslough, Ballyganane, and Shanagrage are where Daniel (who marries Aunt Johanna Foot) and his brothers and sisters were born. As far as I can tell you could maybe fit all three places into the area of one golf course, south of Ballygarvan, west of Carrigaline. Google Earth makes it 51 degrees 47' North and 8 degrees 26' West.
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Hi Prattville
No i don't hate you lol at least you have come back to me unlike some people !! . At least i have now more info than i did before just getting my head around the family connection i will PM you
Little Annie
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Looking at a family headstone from Tracton which was sent to me !! looking for any family members if any of Margaret Moynhan nee foote died 1st Jan 1950 cork
little annie
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I hope this works !! should come up with my grandparents picture & the baptism of one of the children . don't know the other two ladies though.
little annie
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I am going to throw this wide open according to the 1911 census William is Connor!! on his grave its Conor according to family sayings the O'Connors etc originate from Kerry , i even got this from outside the family ! William is a tough one to follow .
Little Annie
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Looking for help on William & Ellen's son ! also called William born 1908/9 may have been put in to a mental institution in later years possible autism ? death un known
thanks little annie
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Is this the peice of information that's going to crack William (Bill) O'Connor? His first born daughter Mary was born in Ballinade no wonder I could not find her!! She was born February 1905 and died in carrigaline 1959 she married David Harrington.
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If I was looking on the census what would area would I be looking for?
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Sounds like it could be Ballinadee
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Ballinadee/
I don't see any Connor/O'Connor there
Here are the records i received back from Roscommon, Ellen Foott born 1/1/1884, Father Cornelius , Mother Mary maiden name was( Wade) in Kilmoney.
Residence of informant was Margaret Cogan, Kilnaglary
Reading through the thread I didn't spot a link to this Census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Liscleary/Kilmoney/1120739/
Although I'm guessing you probably already have it.
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Thank you Sinann
I was hoping his father may have come from there!! Just puzzled why Mary was born so far away from the rest of the family? most of the rest were baptised in monkstown.
Little annie
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Talking to my cousin recently, he told me William was put in a home in passage West! When he was about 4 years of age. I might be out slightly on that one but his mother was setting off to America and she would come back for him or send etc maybe his father died around this time :-(
little annie
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Correction Margaret died 31 January 1950 Aged 54 she married Michael Moynihan 1920
Little annie
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At last I think I found my ggrandfather! Well death at least wife not yet known? William Connor aged 36 died 19/8/1885 windmill Road Cork
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Can some one tell me the name of the road place of death as I cannot make out the second part! I know it starts with wind but that's as far as it goes? thanks little annie
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Looks like Windmill Road.
KG
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I think you are correct with Windmill Road.
https://goo.gl/maps/V1njV3fyWVTBegTa9
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Well you know the old story waiting for a bus? Then loads come along well is this the final chapter after 13 years of searching of wanting to know Williams parents where they were from maybe finally got it? I am on ancestry and have got dna to Limerick and been told I have kerry connections! But also linking to Galway that's another route to follow so is Mary Mackey my ggrandmother if so I'm over the moon so to everyone that helped posted give their time etc u are part of my family thank u
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Well you know the old story waiting for a bus? Then loads come along well is this the final chapter after 13 years of searching of wanting to know Williams parents where they were from maybe finally got it? I am on ancestry and have got dna to Limerick and been told I have kerry connections! But also linking to Galway that's another route to follow so is Mary Mackey my ggrandmother if so I'm over the moon so to everyone that helped posted give their time etc u are part of my family thank you. Well William's father and mother was from Abbeyfeale in Limerick which boarders Co Kerry as well