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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Donegal => Topic started by: little annie on Friday 08 December 06 21:04 GMT (UK)
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looking for infomation on my grannies side of the family .
born in or around buncrana.
She had a brother called Tom & sister called Sarah, had other brother & sisters but don't know there names grannies nickname was called the stralls i think that how you spell it,
i know one of her family was called the cooper. she married James Harkin and moved to Derry where she had several children., my mother being one of them called Annie Harkin
She lived in thomas st . Before my grannie died she lived at 52c Westland st with her daughter Francis mom moved to Birmingham hope thats enough to go on for now thanks Pat
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correction it was 50c westland st
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Hi Little Annie and welcome to Rootschat.
You might want to do a "google" search for Annie and Buncrana and see if anything jumps out at you.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=buncrana+mc+laughlin
Good luck,
Pat
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Thank's Pat every little thing helps, i am new to all this yours gratefully Pat
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Hello every one in buncrana
my Grannie is related to the cooper Charles McLaughlin nick name his Grand daughter is called Bridie Murphy she now lives in Birmingham.
I came across her by shear chance she has been over here for fifty years Her Mother is Bridget McLaughlin
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hello everyone I have received more infomation on my grannies family from Buncrana
PARENTS
JAMES MCLAUGHLIN (FARMER)
SARAH MCLAUGHLIN (GG) Maiden Name is McLaughlin
CHILDREN
James 9/11/1867
BRIDGET 27/11/1871
CHARLES 3RD SEPT 1876
MICHAEL 31 ST 1879 ?
SARAH 3RD JAN 1872
THOMAS 30TH AUGUST 1884
CATHRINE (CASSIE) 2ND AUG 1887
ANNIE 27TH APRIL 1890 GRANNIE
G GRANNIE DIED IN DERRY 4 TH FEB 1942 HER AGE WAS GIVEN AS 100 BECAUSE NO ONE WAS SURE MOM ALWAYS SAID SHE WAS 104 FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS OF HER LIFE...
SHE WAS BURIED IN COCK HILL HER ADDRESS WAS GIVEN HAS CLEENAGH NOT SURE IF SHE LIVED AROUND BALLY Magan I THINK HER MAIDEN NAME WAS ALSO MCLAUGHLIN thats all i know at present
ANY MORE INFO FROM ANY ONE WOULD BE GREAT THANK YOU
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Hi little annie,
These births on familysearch.org:
Patrick McLaughlin b. 2 aug 1869
Mary Anne McLaughlin b. 1 jun 1874
Charles McLaughlin b. 8 sep 1876
Hope that helps,
Oisín
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found two births,BIDDY B. 27-11-1871. MARY ANNE B. 1-6-1874. BOTH BORN BUNCRANA, DON.
parents. JAMES MCLAUGHLIN & SARAH MC LAUGHLIN.
found this marriage. ANNIE MCLAUGHLIN TO JAMES HARKIN 27-2-1916 @ DERRY R.C. CHURCH, TEMPLEMORE, DERRY.
regards mary.
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Thank you
Oisinh1 & MaryDerry for your time and trouble your infomation on Biddy & Mary Anne i reckon is right i did not know i had Mary Anne as a g auntie .
I have just talked to there niece, my auntie, it seems to add up Biddy lived in union st in Derry and her sister MaryAnne lived in Fredrick .
My grand parent's was married in St Eugene's Cathedral in Derry 22-2 -1916.
Not sure on the other two could be relations, still can not thank you enough for going out your way to help
Little Annie was my late Mother just thought i let you know
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Hello Again
Just been looking at the 1911 census for Donegal, i have found a record that i am sure is my grandmothers house .
It gives her address as Resident's of house no 4 in cleenagh illies Donegal, Parent's James & Sarah being married 47 years i e 1864 having 11 children 9 living
Those living there at the time as
James McLaughlin aged 78
Sarah McLaughlin Aged 67
Thomas McLaughlin Aged 25
Mary Anne McLaughlin Aged 34
Annie McLaughlin Aged 25
James McLaughlin Aged 15
Little Annie
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I have recently found out that my g uncle Charles was married .
He married Bridget McLaughlin i think in Buncrana, and at some point they went to Derry,They had 4 children James ,Mary,Sarah ,Bridget 1917.
James & Mary were born in Derry Fredrick st (when)at some point they went back to Buncrana Charles the (Stralls) McLaughlin died in 1920.
the nick name the cooper previous post, we think came from the Bridget's side of her family her Grannie being called Gill ? any help Allway's appreciated Little Annie
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Mary Ann Mclaughlin 1/6/1874 Buncrana Don.
father James Mclaughlin
mother Sarah Mclaughlin
audrey
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Hello Audrey
I have that record thank you , i was hoping for James & Mary's birth in Derry thank you for your reply anyway Little Annie
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I was wondering if Patrick Mcloughlin (Mclaughlin) living in no 5 Clunagh Cleenagh) in the 1901 census was James brother as some of the children's names are the same.
I cannot see him in the 1911 census any help appreciated
Little Annie
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I have found a marriage for Annie's Parents on the LDS site.
James Mcloughlin married Sally Mcloughlin father Michael 9/5/1865 not 1866 as i first reported
also a birth for a Mary Mcloughlin 20 December 1866 .
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Marriage information of James & Sarah
James Mcloughlin occupation Farmer
Address Cleenagh
Father James Mcloughlin
Full Age
witness Patrick Mcloughlin
Sally Mcloughlin
address Fallask
age M ?????
Father Michael Mcloughlin
witness Charles Mcloughlin
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age minor?
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Thanks for that aghadowey, so as a minor what legal age could you marry? back then
Little Annie
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Minor was someone under 21 but not sure legal age with parental consent was in 1860s.
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I was looking at the Griffiths Valuation and noticed a John Mcloughlin from Fallask.
I then looked at the LDS site and came across a marriage for a John Mcloughlin 4/5/1867 father Michael who married Elizabeth Doherty Father Patrick.
I am wondering is there any connection on either records to my Mcloughlins
Little Annie
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re annie mc laughlin hello have some information on the stralls cleenagh ballymagan p.o buncrana the information i have would be more recent roseanne stalls lived in the family home up until 9 or 10 years ago when she died she had a brother tommy stralls and a sister sarah who married a man called doherty from the bighill meenamullaghan buncrana sarah son tom joe now lives at cleenagh on the family holding just saw your message tonight should be able to find out more for you if you can give me what you still require liam
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Hello Liam
Thank you for your help. A lot of the info i have and the family is limited i have a photo who i think is Patrick Doherty when he was young he was my moms cousin ,are you related at all at last i can now nail the name the Stralls Mclaughlin.( added)
I knew about Roseanne but don't remember meeting her I think my brother & sister did, i have a photo of Granny & my mother outside the home must be late sixties or 1970 granny died 1971
Little Annie
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re annie mc laughlin
i be related to the dohertys of meenamullaghan [bighill] that sarah stralls married though though that connection would very far back in time the patrick doherty you speak of in the photo what age would you put him at now presently sarah son patrick doherty my good friend died last easter monday he was aged 63 years when he died if its further back than that he had an uncle patrick doherty before my time but i can find out more on these matters no problem at all i can ask patricks brother tom and some older members of the community i remember my mother telling me that she used to stay with the dohertys when she was a little girl that would have been around 1916 approximately she was in the house one night when the priest came to tell the dohertys than one of their family had been knocked down and killed by an army lorry i would think that would have been an uncle of sarahs husband but i will clarify that as well i believe sarah faters was called big tommy stralls their house is still there yet like i said last night roseanne stralls lived there until her death in recent years i will keep you informed as i get more info and clarity i wil also look at the birth deaths and marriages liam
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re annie doherty
could you give me any details you have on your connection to the stralls and who they married im new to this roots chat so maybe you can fill me in from the start as i havent used this particular sire before liam
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Hello Liam
I take the storey as this Sarah Doherty was my mothers cousin, Patrick her son i think that is in the photo i have, the storey i got from my late mother is he went of to Dublin at some point any truth in that.
Out of Eight of Annie 's McLaughlin's children Sarah's cousins there are only three left Bridget Phil & Paddy, John Harkin died two month's ago in Derry.
I will try and give you all i know through the PM with out going through this all the time. its is a good site with lots of people always willing to help .
I will PM you tomorrow. Little Annie
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JAMES MCLAUGHLIN (FARMER) John
SARAH MCLAUGHLIN (GG) Maiden Name is McLaughlin
pretty sure these are my great grandparents my grandfather along with his brothers came to canada in early 1900's
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Hello acm
Who was your Grandfather & Brothers
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great grandfathers name was John who married Sarah ( maiden name McLaughlin) sons were Ned, Philip, James, Daniel, John, Bernard they were in born the 1880's
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Hello acm
I don't think we are related as such ,but you never know most of my McLaughlin's stayed in Buncrana or Derry but i am just limited to what i have given so far, its not for the want of trying.
You said they went to Canada early 1900s were they in the 1901 census for Buncrana etc also try Mcloughlin on the ages you know please let me know how you get on
Thanks Little Annie
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I have recently contacted Buncrana Parish looking for records, they tell me there records for Birth & marriage only go back to 1872 & death records just to 1918 .
Little Annie
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With out starting a new thread on McLaughlin's.
I have as a last resort due to the infomation i received earlier ARE THERE ANY MCLAUGHLIN'S FROM FALLASK or anyone that can help me or know of any connection to them
Thanks little Annie
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I am looking for infomation on Annies cousin, Charles Harkin his wife was Mary and had children Patrick,Barny Bridget,Susan,Mary? & Hugh.
According to my auntie she used to vist them in Clonmany when she was younger
thanks Little Annie
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Hello Little Annie,
Was reading this thread on the Strall McLaughlins. As I am doing a lot of family research myself, I thought I would let you know that Bridget McLaughlin, Annie's sister was my great grandmother. I also met Roseanne a few times and was generally aware that Harkins (wee Paddy was often mentioned) were related to my grandmother Brigid Sheils. Just wondering if you have any additional info to share. Regards, Coileán
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Great to hear from you Coilean sorry to be so short will chat tomorrow , have to go to work
thanks for replying
Little Annie
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Hello Coilean
Don't know nothing about the Harkin's on Granny side of the house except that we had them on both sides if that makes any sense.
I remember going to your grannies house when i was a lot younger with my mother in the sixties & seventies .
Do you know how the Harkins & McLaughlin's were related ?
I was hoping you could enlighten me on things
Little Annie
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McLoughlin James 70 Male Head of Family
McLoughlin Sarah 56 Female Wife
McLoughlin Patrick 28 Male Son
McLoughlin Bridget 26 Female Daughter
McLoughlin Mary Ann 24 Female Daughter
McLoughlin Charles 20 Male Son
McLoughlin Sarah 17 Female Daughter
McLoughlin Thomas 16 Male Son
McLoughlin Catherine 13 Female Daughter
McLoughlin Annie 11 Female Daughter
McLoughlin James 4 Male Grand Child
I am not really sure either how the Harkins are related unfortunately. All I know is that the Bridget McLaughlin (Clenagh) from the 1901 Census above, daughter of James McLaughlin was married to Edward Doherty (Gortnaskeagh) of Skelp Hill (Ned the Skelper) on 22nd November 1900 (must have been around the time of the census). Her nickname was Biddy Strall so it is definitely the same family. I have been told that her mother Sarah was a Grant. Their first child Mary Jane (McAnulty) was born in Clenagh in 1901. By 1911 they had moved to Union Street, via Nelson Street where Brigid Sheils was born in 1903. By 1911 their father was dead. A Sarah McLaughlin (age 24), possibly a neice was also staying with them. Eventually old Sarah McLaughlin which would be my great great grandmother came to live with them after an incident in Clenagh.
I have a copy of a photograph of old Sarah and her daughter Bridget with Bridget’s daughter, Sarah Ellen Gumbleton, my great aunt and a sister of Brigid Sheils. Although they were from Cleenagh, Roseanne’s house is not the house that Sarah lived in as it is later but not far from the old place which is down to the ground. Another of the Stralls, James McLaughlin and the youngest in the 1901 census eventually came to Derry to live with Mary Jane McAnulty.
If I get more info I will let you know. All the best, Coileán
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Hello Coilean
My auntie has confirmed a lot what you have said, i have asked about the name Grant and she said Catherine ( Cassie) married a James Grant we should have a photo of Sarah & Tom some where i will try to find it i will be in touch soon
Little Annie
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Hello Coilean
Do you know anything about James McLaughlin i.e who were the rest of his family
Little Annie
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hi,little Annie,
Charles harkin was my grandfather. His father was Patrick Harkin Meendoran,who was married to Mary
Mc Laughlin [potts] Fallask.My mother was Susan Harkin.
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Hi Big Pat
Great to hear from you, would Mary be Sarah's sister, at last i think i have a connection.
Was you ever told that a McLaughlin married a McLaughlin in fact any info would be great
Little Annie
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Hello,Annie,
Sorry i dont have any info [at present ] on the mc Laughlin side. But ,my great grandfather Patrick harkin
married Mary Mc Laughlin ,Fallask in 1864[according to my information].i am at present living in clonmany
and have got sidetracked into researching the Harkin connection.--interesting--.For instance your relation
'Mary and her husband Patrick Harkin were evicted with their young family in the Meendoran evictions of
1882 . I discovered my great grandmothers maiden name by talking to a gentleman who is very much alive and well and living locally .if you are resident in Inishowen afew hours in the right company in the North Pole
Bar might answer a lot of your [our] questions.
Good luck
Pat.
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Hi Big Pat
I wish i. could just pop up the rd, but i live in Birmingham uk . I have seen a picture from Cock hill of a family grave, McLaughlin Fallask but has no names on it as it is very old.
Anne Harkin nee (McLaughlin) has only 2 children left Phil & Bridget i (we) still have cousins in Derry hope this part of the family tree open's up a new line for you
Patrick
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Hi Big Pat would you have any photos of Mary ,i have 2 of Sarah plus her children
I nearly forgot when was the death of Mary & Patrick
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hi, annie,
sorry, dont know of any photos of Mary.i have seen a photograph of Charles[her son] and his wife-
Mary Gibbons from Meentiagh Glen. In the 1901 census Mary was recorded as being the head of the house in Meendoran .Her age was given as 60. I'm just getting back into this for the winter so I hope to dig up some more info as regards death,marriage records etc.
good luck,
Pat.
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Thanks Pat, you keep in touch if i find out anymore i will let you know.
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Hello Big Pat
With the help of The family history & genealogy of Arden Gremmart & Eva Doherty, i have made contact with the grandson of Michael Harkins.
I have contacted him before but did not know the connection back then with Sarah & Mary ( Potts ) McLaughlin from Fallask, i know nothing about the nick name as it is new to me.
It can take a Very long time to trace your relatives and get very very frustrating, but now and again something pops up just by high lighting a name i.e Charles Harkin
Little Annie
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Hi, Annie,
I met sons and daughters of the original Michael Harkins -who was settled in Malin and was a shoemaker
to trade. One of them-Hughie- spent the last years of his life in the rest home in Clonmany. He had a
wealth of local history and was more than willing to share it. Unfortunately we did not give him enough of our time when he was alive.I would be interested in finding out some more about the grandson of Michael
Harkin you mentioned, especially if he would be interested in talking to his cousin,
thanks-
pat.
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i have sent you a private message go to the top of your page
Pat
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Hi
My Grandfather(John McCahill & Mary McCahill) lived in Meendoran next to the Harkins home place.My grandmother was Mary Donaghue /Donaghy from Clenagh a daughter of George and Kate Donaghy. Mary was a first cousin of Mary Mclaughlin (Potts) from Fallisk . Do you have any information on the connection between the Donaghys and the Mclaughlins. My father always called the Harkins his cousins ?
Thanks in anticipation
20 stone ned
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Hello 20 stone Ned
If i have another connection to the Family thats great just when i was about to give up !! . I am not to sure yet about the connection i will have to ask my limited family connections fingers crossed we will be able to put 2 & 2 together .
Little Annie
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Hi Ned
Did you ever hear the name Cassie Donaghy & her mother or grandmother Rose. Cassie used to stop at my grandmothers house in Derry while she worked i think in the shirt factory ? she would then head back down to cleanagh ? for the week end with the family.
Her brother was killed in WW2 i think in Scotland ??? the McLaughlin connection may only be through the Harkin connection ie may only be through my GG mother Sarah potts Mclaughin sister in the posts above . The info on Cassie comes from my Auntie
Little Annie
The picture i have added is Sarah (potts) McLaughlin her daughter Bridgit ,& her daughter who's name fails me at present
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Hi Annie
Thanks for the info ,I got some more info myself today so Iwill have to sift through the census detail and try and make some sense of it.There seems to be a Doherty connection in the mix, as well ,between the two families.
Reading through the old posts I remember visiting the Harkins in Malin and hearing the Kevin Barry stories.
Chat again soon thanks. Ned
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Was you born in donegal NED or just visted !! i have noticed that there are two family graves from Fallask.
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Hi Annie
I am in Clonmany at the moment ,the only one to return. Are the graves for Mcclaughlin or Donaghy in Cockhill?
Best wishes Ned (Ned ,my great grandfather ,carried a 20 stone cornsack from Clonmany to Meendoran without stopping)
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Hi Ned
I have sent you a PM message go to the top of the page and click messages
Little Annie
Had to send 2 message first info was incorrect.
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hi-20 stone ned,
if you are in clonmany at present you will no doubt find some people in meendoran who will help
if you wish to send me a personal message i could maybe help out.
good luck
big Pat on
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Just seen this record this record on the family search site .
matches family names !!
Birth James Mcloughlin, Born 9th November 1867 baptism/ christening place 124 Buncrana
parents James & Sally Mcloughlin any idea on the address 124 !! if this is the correct parents? this would be Annies McLaughlin oldest brother that would mean my Great grand dad 4 x was also called James
Little Annie
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I have just come across the original baptisimal cert for my Grandmother Mary Donagy 2nd May 1879 in St Marys Buncrana . Father is George Donaghy but mother is given as Catherine Mclaughlin .This would make her an aunt of of Mary McClaughlin Fallisk as my Grandmother was Marys 1st Cousin . MY Grandmother had one brother George who died young and sisters Bridget, Sarah ,Ellen, Hannah,Cassie . This Donaghy branch died out with the death of the son. This solves one of the connection problems for me. Would the dates be correct for the Cassie Donaghy mentioned in earlier posts
Ned
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Hi Ned
When was Cassie born ? auntie still thinks there were two brothers ? . The Question i would think she is Catherine is Mary (potts) & Sarah my ggrand mothers Auntie , so going on 1st daughters names there mother is called Bridget/ Biddy . I did hear the name Mcgonigal? mentioned before but cannot remember which side of the family if its correct
Little Annie
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Cassie was born in 1881 she is in the Clenagh 1901 census. There was only talk of one son he died with while cutting turf ,with a stroke. he was 19? years. My Grand mother was called Red Mary and this trend went through the generations A neice of hers had red hair and was married and living in Red Row in Buncrana late 1960's She was either married to a McClauglin or Mcgonigle . I dont know which sister was her mother.
Ned
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My Granny & Mother had red hair so did some of her brothers & sisters , my cousins also had red hair in the one family.
We are all darker hair, but the first granddaughter of my mothers was born with red hair she looked like Shirley Temple.
Little Annie
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John McLaughlin born 1851 ? from fallask!! married Mary Mcdaid father John Mcdaid ( TIRK) any help appreciated .
little Annie
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I have found the marriage of George Donagy & Catherine Mclaughlin January 18 1874 his address is Ballymagan hers is fallask!! Witness for groom is William Doherty,brides is Henry mclaughlin.
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Thanks did it give the parents names for George or Catherine in the marriage detail . Ian still looking a. Tie to Mary (Potts) McLaughlin in Fallask .
Ned
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Hello Ned no it did not ! I got the record off the national library ireland site there is more writing but cannot make out what it says?
Little annie
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Hi Little Anne,
there are still McDaids in Tirk, I will see if I can get any info.
I believe I now own the farm in Fallask, unfortunately the old house is now in a bad state of repair, My father Paddy McLaughlin (Pott) inherited the farm from an aunt, again I will find out more.
The picture below is my father outside the house in Fallask.
Gary
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Hello Gary it's great news to know the farm still in the family !! Just wondering where the name Potts come from ?
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there is a number of stories, one is to do with the making of a famine pot, which would tie in with the nickname cooper. That tends to be the official line, it's the easiest way to explain to people not from the area why everyone refers to me as Pott!!!
I also noticed Ballymagan being mentioned, on the other side of Falask hill is the other Pott farm where my father was born, the postal address on this is Ballynakeeloge, Ballymagan. Ballymagan was the local post office.
I will dig out some family history to see what I can find.
If you are on Facebook look up the Inishowen Heritage page, some very knowledgeable folks there.
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I had nearly given up on finding anyone alive connected to Sarah/sara!! Did find a distant cousin in the USA.
Little annie
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big pat on,
My great granny was mc laughlin[potts] of fallask.Interested in gary's post about
the potmaking and coopers.James the Cooper had a wee garage in buncrana one time
My uncles [harkin-meendoran] said he was a relation. Maybe this is the connection.
Pat
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Hi Big Pat
Your right on the connections the coopers married the potts Mclaughlin!! Sarah sister married the Harkins from meendoran. Now my question is James the son or grand son of James & Sarah Mclaughlin? . As mom used to say that they we're harkins on mclaughlin side as well but did not know much more than that,
Little annie
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Charles Mclaughlin fallask! Married Ellen? Died greenock Scotland maybe connection?
Little annie
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Gary potts Mclaughlin
Don't know how much you know about the mclaughlins but there is a site gremmert and arden!! One is of John Mclaughlin fallask, who married Mary Mcdade.
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Gary potts Mclaughlin
Don't know how much you know about the mclaughlins but there is a site gremmert and arden!! One is of John Mclaughlin fallask, who married Mary Mcdade.
What is the story with that site if there is a name of interest on it??
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Hello Hallmark
That's how I found John!! But is he connected to me that is the question. As for all the the Mclaughlins still a mystery to me, thanks anyway.
Little anni
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What is the story with that site if there is a name of interest on it??
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There were two McLaughlin landholders in Fallask in Griffiths (1857): Michael McLaughlin and John McLaughlin.
In 1901 Michael’s son Charles lived in house 9. Charles was the brother of Sally McLaughlin who married James McLaughlin of Cleenagh, Little Annie’s family.
In 1901 John’s son Patrick lived in House 8 in Fallask and Patrick’s brother John (who married Mary McDaid Tirk) lived in house 10. Patrick and John’s sister Catherine married John McDaid of Meendacallaigh.
It is likely that Michael and John are cousins. John and Owen McLaughlin held land together in Fallask in the Tithes (1831) so possibly they are brothers and that Michael and John are their sons. Their houses are close together as can be seen from the numbering above.
The question to Little Annie, Gary Potts, Big Pat On and 20 Stone Ned is: are both families “Potts” or does it just apply to the family of Michael? How far back does the nickname go?
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Sorry Sile b for responding so late!! getting my sites mixed up lol
great you have made more sense of my posts, i have no idea how far back the name potts go back etc I only knew of it with great help of the gremmert site.
I only have one uncle & auntie left from Derry? Maybe if I was born there I could have got a lot more answers to my questions.
thanks little annie
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Just found this record!! For Annie's mother Sally mcloughlin, marriage to James mcloughlin / mclaughlin 9/5/1865, other person Michael Mcloughlin Sally's father?
Little annie
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Just found the Baptism of Michael 31 March 1879! God parents are Patrick Doherty and Mary Doherty now my question is Mary? Sarah's sister.
As for Michael what happened to him after his birth your guess is as good as mine ;-)
Little Annie
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Right need to straighten things out as I am confusing people hear as I have crossed posts!! SARAH POTTS MCLAUGHLIN is Annie's husband James Harkin grandmother!! So no relation to Annie??
Looking at the census of 1901 Annie and her father James are still living in Clunagh (cleenagh) with the family etc but spellings are Mcloughlin, the grandson of James which I presume is Patrick's son called James! is born in Scotland aged 4 so the question is where from and did Patrick and his son go back to Scotland?
Little annie
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At last I've found a marriage record for Charles Mclaughlin brother of Annie!!
Charles married Bridget Mclaughlin 2nd March 1916 parent for groom James Mclaughlin farmer , bride JOHN Mclaughlin farmer witness was James and Annie.
The marriage was 8 days after my grandparents same church St Eugene's Cathedral in Derry /Londonderry
I think they went back to Buncrana area and had one daughter who I think was called Bridget as well Charles died in 1920.
Little annie
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Both marriages- https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1916/09778/5549230.pdf
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Thanks Aghadowey for that information I did have this some one on ancestry shared with me only recently.
The frustrating thing is I never knew Charles got married as well in the same church, my late mother did not know as other wise she would have passed the information on etc
I'm fairly sure Annie Mclaughlin sister Bridget lived pilots row!? Cheers Pat
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Just to let anyone interested I'm on ancestry and gedmatch etc also I might be wrong on the marriage of Charles Mclaughlin and Bridget Mclaughlin? Her father is known as Carn (Carndonagh) John!! ?
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hello everyone I have received more infomation on my grannies family from Buncrana
PARENTS
JAMES MCLAUGHLIN (FARMER) death 5/10/1915
SARAH MCLAUGHLIN (GG) Maiden Name is McLaughlin
CHILDREN
James 9/11/1867 present at birth Was Mary Doherty
BRIDGET 27/11/1871
CHARLES 3RD SEPT 1876
MICHAEL 31 ST 1879 ?
SARAH 3RD JAN 1872
THOMAS 30TH AUGUST 1884
CATHRINE (CASSIE) 2ND AUG 1887
ANNIE 27TH APRIL 1890 GRANNIE
G GRANNIE DIED IN DERRY 4 TH FEB 1942 HER AGE WAS GIVEN AS 100 BECAUSE NO ONE WAS SURE MOM ALWAYS SAID SHE WAS 104 FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS OF HER LIFE...
SHE WAS BURIED IN COCK HILL HER ADDRESS WAS GIVEN HAS CLEENAGH NOT SURE IF SHE LIVED AROUND BALLY Magan I THINK HER MAIDEN NAME WAS ALSO MCLAUGHLIN thats all i know at present
ANY MORE INFO FROM ANY ONE WOULD BE GREAT THANK YOU
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Just found the Baptism of Michael 31 March 1879! God parents are Patrick Doherty and Mary Doherty now my question is Mary? Sarah's sister.
As for Michael what happened to him after his birth your guess is as good as mine ;-)
Little Annie
Is this your Michael born on 10th of April 1879 who was Baptized in March 1879 ?
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Have you checked for Birth Reg for them?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
enter year as needed 1872 - 1872 for example.
There is a Captcha security check and then sign in..... they are online, free as per https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line !
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If you want Marriages 1878 to 1880 for example, just enter the following....
if you want Londonderry just enter it as District. etc etc
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I have found the marriage of George Donagy & Catherine Mclaughlin January 18 1874 his address is Ballymagan hers is fallask!! Witness for groom is William Doherty,brides is Henry mclaughlin.
This Search on https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
will find Marriage Reg giving names of fathers!
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1874/11227/8115915.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1874/11227/8115915.pdf)
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Quotes from stuff already posted!
Hi little annie,
These births on familysearch.org:
Patrick McLaughlin b. 2 aug 1869
Mary Anne McLaughlin b. 1 jun 1874
Charles McLaughlin b. 8 sep 1876
Hope that helps,
Oisín
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Oisinh1 & MaryDerry for your time and trouble your information on Biddy & Mary Anne i reckon is right i did not know i had Mary Anne as a g auntie .
I have just talked to there niece, my auntie, it seems to add up Biddy lived in union st in Derry and her sister MaryAnne lived in Fredrick .
My grand parent's was married in St Eugene's Cathedral in Derry 22-2 -1916.
Not sure on the other two could be relations............."
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Is there a reason why they aren't on your tree?
Are there other names/dates posted in other replies?
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Just found the Baptism of Michael 31 March 1879! God parents are Patrick Doherty and Mary Doherty now my question is Mary? Sarah's sister.
As for Michael what happened to him after his birth your guess is as good as mine ;-)
Little Annie
Bapt 31 March https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633000#page/32/mode/1up left page
very strange!
They were well inside time frame for registering Births! I think it was 3 months!
Is this your Michael born on 10th of April 1879 who was Baptized in March 1879 ?
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Hi Hallmark you beat me to it on James and SALLY's wedding I only seen that information today! I think my biggest problem or plain stupidity was I kept putting in Donegal instead of inishown etc
To your question I just haven't got round to putting other members of the donegal family in as I have been chasing my father's side Cork as well with even less information than donegal!!
Looking at my dna on ancestry I do have Donaghey in my links etc Just when you think you have solved one problem up come another? So now I two Sally Mcloughlins from fallask both father's called Michael on my grandfathers and grandmothers side, I wonder if they were cousins maybe maybe not?
So to anyone from fallask area maybe you could now solve this mystery once and for all cheers Pat
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Hi Hallmark you beat me to it on James and SALLY's wedding I only seen that information today! I think my biggest problem or plain stupidity was I kept putting in Donegal instead of inishown etc
To your question I just haven't got round to putting other members of the donegal family in as I have been chasing my father's side Cork as well with even less information than donegal!!
Looking at my dna on ancestry I do have Donaghey in my links etc Just when you think you have solved one problem up come another? So now I two Sally Mcloughlins from fallask both father's called Michael on my grandfathers and grandmothers side, I wonder if they were cousins maybe maybe not?
So to anyone from fallask area maybe you could now solve this mystery once and for all cheers Pat
Are they after Civil Reg dates?
If so, check Marriages for Michael McLoughlin Inishowen see who their fathers were??
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So....
I make it out to be
1.James 9/11/1867 present at birth Was Mary Doherty
2.Patrick McLaughlin b. 2 aug 1869 Sourced!
3.BRIDGET/Biddy 27/11/1871
4.SARAH 3RD JAN 1872
5.Mary Anne McLaughlin b. 1 jun 1874 Sourced!
6.CHARLES 3RD SEPT 1876/Charles McLaughlin b. 8 sep 1876 Sourced!
7.MICHAEL 31 ST 1879 ? Sourced!
8.THOMAS 30TH AUGUST 1884 (Cert C Reg 3 Sept 1884) Sourced!
9.CATHRINE (CASSIE) 2ND AUG 1887 Sourced!
10.ANNIE 27TH APRIL 1890
11. "Miss Ing McLoughlin" ;D
11 children 9 living
So, who is missing from Census??
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Hi Hallmark you beat me to it on James and SALLY's wedding I only seen that information today! I think my biggest problem or plain stupidity was I kept putting in Donegal instead of inishown etc
Yes, one needs to know the Districts for Donegal, then see which District theirs were in.
A brilliant website is https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php
then Select the County from first dropdown box to get them for whatever County.
Then using Map see what District theirs were in.
Then Search Civil Reg using Surname/District/Yr Ranges etc
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The Civil Reg (free) website https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp is a 3 step thing
Enter Surname, District, Year Ranges etc
Hit Search and it brings one to the Captcha (security check), then the Sign In page (where I use q q ;D )
Many think (understandably!) it is bringing them to another Website etc but it is just Security and Legislation that these have to be here!
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So I have finally got round to putting people together again so it's seems Mary potts Mcloughlin from Fallask who married Patrick Hark in had quite a few children thanks to Big Pat giving me his grandfather Charles etc
Children born to Patrick and Mary from Meendoran correct spelling?
Bridget 15/11/1864
Mary1/2/1867
Hugh 17/8/1868
Michael 29/10/1870
Patrick 8/6/1872
John 17/6/1874
Charles 20/11/1877
Neal 13/7/1874
How many of these children survived to adult hood I don't know yet, but being kicked of the land by the British!
Must have been hard enough bringing up the children with little to no money etc how did they feel as parents.
So lets put this connection to me Mary is my 3x great auntie sister of Sally Mcloughlin from Fallask known as potts Mclaughlin on my grandfathers side James Harkin. As far as I know 2 different harkin families cheers little Annie
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Hello again I just found out today that there seems to be a direct line between 2 sets of my mclaughlins. Potts Mclaughlin from fallask is on my grandfathers side.
My grandmother Annie mother was Sally was also from Fallask. Now the sister of potts Mclaughlin married Patrick harkin from mindoran,
My grandmothers sister from cleenagh Bridget married Ned the skelper Doherty now children from both sets of families are both dna connectioned as am I So I am thinking both SALLY's are cousins from fallask I hope this makes sense to people
cheers little annie
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Children born to Patrick and Mary from Meendoran correct spelling?
John 17/6/1874
Charles 20/11/1877
Neal 13/7/1874
Charles 27th November 1877 at Mindoran (sic)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/02988/2094743.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/inishowen-east/clonmany/straid/meendooran/
Neil Harkin 27th August 1879
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02907/2065109.pdf
John Harkin 22nd June 1874
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1874/03149/2154948.pdf
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Finally cracked one of Sally Mcloughlins siblings from fallask! Her brother was Charlie who married Ellen Breisland they had a few children about 6 or 7 of the top of my head etc its the middle of the night lol The one daughter Bridget born 1877 married Bernard Fullerton. My late grannie Annie Mclaughlin said she had cousins called Fullerton to my mother but she did know how exactly. It seems? That either some or all immigrated to California but don't hold me to that at the moment! Maybe 1924 cheers little annie
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Her brother was Charlie who married Ellen Breisland they had a few children about 6 or 7 of the top of my head etc its the middle of the night lol
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The one daughter Bridget born 1877 married Bernard Fullerton.
Marriage of Charles McLoughlin and Ellen Briesland on 3rd May 1870 at Cockhill RC Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11383/8179412.pdf
Bridget born 18th November 1877 at Fallask. MMN down as Bresland.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/02988/2094736.pdf
Charles and Ellen in 1901 census.
House 9 in Fallask (Illies, Donegal).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Illies/Fallask/1181954/
Bridget married Bernard Fullerton on 5th January 1897 at St Marys, Cockhill.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1897/10442/5802552.pdf
Fullertons in 1901 census.
House 10 in Clunagh (sic) (Illies, Donegal).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Illies/Clunagh/1181910/
Cleenagh townland
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5491659#map=14/55.1460/-7.4138
KG
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Charles and Ellen in 1901 census.
House 9 in Fallask (Illies, Donegal).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Illies/Fallask/1181954/
Cicily McLaughlin (daughter) aged 21 in 1901 census, married Bernard Doherty on 15th December 1901 at St Marys, Cockhill. She was aged 19.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10327/5759226.pdf
Here's her birth record - 15th March 1882 at Fallask.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02782/2021294.pdf
1911 census
House 6 in Cleenagh (Illies, Donegal).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Illies/Cleenagh/492195/
KG
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Thank you Kiltaglasson some of the information I have seen! But I'm not complaining I'm bound to miss something lol 😁 This information may not just help me but Anyone looking into the Breisland family.
Breisland /Breslin is it the same but just changed in time? Cheers little annie
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This is just a guess looking for any possable relations to James Mclaughlin (Ballylosky) who married Annie Gallagher1899
This could be Annies brother? His father was James hers was Patrick they had a son James accorrding to the 1901 cenus as i said its just a guess as i cannot find any thing on James except his birth etc cheers little annie
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Just putting some links on, for others who are following this thread-
....looking for any possable relations to James Mclaughlin (Ballylosky) who married Annie Gallagher1899
James MCLAUGHLIN married Annie GALLAGHER on 29 June 1899 at Carndonagh RC Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10380/5779125.pdf
Ballylosky townland
https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/inishowen-east/donagh/glentogher/ballylosky/
....they had a son James accorrding to the 1901 cenus
1901 census
House 3 in Ballyloskey (Glentogher, Donegal).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Glentogher/Ballyloskey/1183063/
James McLaughlin born 18 August 1900 at Ballylosky. Mother named as Hannah McLaughlin.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/01985/1764266.pdf
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....they had a son James accorrding to the 1901 cenus
1901 census
House 3 in Ballyloskey (Glentogher, Donegal).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Glentogher/Ballyloskey/1183063/
James McLaughlin born 18 August 1900 at Ballylosky. Mother named as Hannah McLaughlin.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/01985/1764266.pdf
Here they are in the 1911 census - McLaughlin.
House 32 in Ballylosky (Glentogher, Donegal).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Glentogher/Ballylosky/493332/
Children born between 1901 and 1911-
Patrick McLaughlin - 12 December 1901
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01933/1747875.pdf
Rose McLaughlin - 17 August 1903
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01859/1724222.pdf
John Joseph McLaughlin - 13 December 1905
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01751/1690635.pdf
Michael McLaughlin - 9 April 1908
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01655/1660194.pdf
Elizabeth McLaughlin - 27 July 1909
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01602/1643447.pdf
Further child-
Edward McLaughlin - 22 June 1912
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01482/1603182.pdf
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This is likely to be the marriage of Rose McLaughlin, the daughter of James McLaughlin and Annie Gallagher.
To Edward J Doherty (of Ballylosky) on 5 January 1926 at Carndonagh RC Church. One of the witnesses may be her sister Lizzie McLaughlin. Note that her father was deceased.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1926/09114/5296491.pdf
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i am hoping some the locals to cock hill church could help me ? i am looking for the burial of Bridget Murphy married name maiden could be Gill .
She married a man from the south and lived in Birmingham UK and had a son, she is on my mothers side the McLaughlin's from cleenagh etc
anyway i found a burial plot that could be hers? sec D Plot 458 Brigid Murphy death 2016
thanks little annie
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This looks to be her death notice
https://rip.ie/death-notice/brigid-murphy--donegal/281048
Nee O’Donnell.