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Title: Why are they not in the GRO?
Post by: baz54 on Monday 11 December 06 20:47 GMT (UK)
I have been searching for some folks who appeared in the 1881 census, from which I have their places of birth and ages. However even armed with this information I still can't seem to be able to locate their records of birth in the GRO.

The 1881 census inmates of the Wallingford Union Workhouse,
Caroline Dixey (I have her details).

Emma Dixey age 9yrs (c1871-1872) born Maidenhead Berks.
Mary A Dixey age 6yrs (c1874-1875) born    "          "    "   "
Geo Dixey age 1yr (c1879-1880) born Wallingford (Union)
Harriet Dixey age 5yrs (c1875-1876) born Greenford Middlesex.
Kezia Dixey age 43yrs (c1837-1838) born Moulsford Berks.

I tried some lateral thinking and found George Dixon born Q1 1880 Wallingford 2c/338.

I don't know who Kezia Dixey is but guess that she is the mother of the four children, and have discovered a Kezia Winfield married Q4 1856 Wallingford 2c/272. to either Thos Dawson, Thos Stroudley, or Ezekiel Martin.

I have also found the death record of an Ezekiel Martin age 34yrs Q2 1868 Faringdon 2c/154.

Also the birth of Emma Jane Martin Q3 1869 in Maidstone 2a/559.
This would mean that she couldn't have been the daughter of Ezekiel but could still have his name.

Does any of this make any sense or am I making too many assumptions?

Also why on earth can’t I find them in the GRO?

Can anyone make any suggestions please?
 :)
Title: Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
Post by: sillgen on Monday 11 December 06 21:00 GMT (UK)
Have you checked all spellings?  Dicksey? etc   You are looking at the full records not just FreeBMd which is not full coverage?    Sorry if I am teaching my grandmother to suck eggs but it is as well to check!   Have you looked for them on other census?
I am not sure what Kezia Winfield has to do with the case at all!
Andrea
Title: Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
Post by: SandraC on Monday 11 December 06 21:02 GMT (UK)
Following on from George Dixon.. ..


Emma Jane Dixon Q2 1872 Cookham, Berks

Mary Ann Dixon Q3 1874 Cookham

Regards
SandraC
Title: Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Tuesday 12 December 06 08:28 GMT (UK)
1891 census:
RG12/986; Folio 136; Page 4
The Alley, Crowmarsh Gifford, Oxfordshire

Keziah Dixey - Head - Single - 48 - Charwoman - Moulsford, Berks
George Dixey - Son - 11 - Scholar - Wallingford, Berks
Martha Dixey - Dau - 7 - Scholar - Scarborough, Yorks

in 1901, Keziah Dixey (55, Widow) is nurse to an old lady in Wallingford.

Rambler
Title: Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
Post by: baz54 on Tuesday 12 December 06 11:26 GMT (UK)
Thankyou all for your help.

Andrea, I assumed that Kezia had a maiden name and that Dixey was her married name so that is why Kezia Winfield came to my attention especially as she married Ezekiel Martin, and I have found a GRO for the birth of an Emma Jane Martin for about the correct year to form a possible tie with Emma Dixey both being born in Maidenhead as they were. As I say I may be making too many assumptions in this case but I figured it might be an avenue worth exploring.
I have been looking in the full GRO and as you suggest I will have to widen my search for other spellings eg Dicksey e.t.c.

SandraC, that's very helpful as Cookham seems to be in close proximity to Maidenhead.

Rambler, much appreciate that information, now I have to figure out the Scarborough connection.

Once again thankyou all for your help and advice.

Regards Barry. :)
Title: Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
Post by: sillgen on Tuesday 12 December 06 12:13 GMT (UK)
In 1881 there are 195 women called Kezia born in Berkshire.   As you say, Kezia Dixey is in the workhouse in Wallingford poor soul.
Kezia Dixey W 43 washerwoman b Moulsford - age is not quite in line with the other census but that is not surprising
Emma 9 b Maidenhead
Harriet 5 b Msex Greenford
George 1 b Wallingford Union.

Perhaps her husband died before George was born so she had to enter the workhouse then.   On the other hand perhaps there never was a husband?    Martha certainly is after his probable death.
Andrea
Title: Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
Post by: baz54 on Tuesday 12 December 06 14:51 GMT (UK)
Yes I knew that it was a longshot but putting Kezia Martin, Emma Jane Martin b Maidenhead, and Emma Jane Dixon (Dixey) b Maidenhead together I thought that there could be a link.

You're right of course all that is too fanciful to prove a link. Still I'll keep looking, they will be found!

Regards Barry. :)
Title: Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
Post by: sillgen on Tuesday 12 December 06 15:01 GMT (UK)
I think that one was a bit fanciful but I cannot find a Kezia Dixey in earlier census and if she was not around as K Dixey then she must have married!   We hope...
Andrea
Title: Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
Post by: closetearl on Tuesday 27 July 10 18:16 BST (UK)
Can I ask a question of Baz54?

Did you find anything further paticularly about Emma Dixey aged 9 in the Union Worhouse in Wallingford?
The reason I ask is she is my grandmother
Title: Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
Post by: silvery on Tuesday 27 July 10 18:29 BST (UK)
closetearl, you need to make a couple more posts (just do smileys on two postings) and then you can do a private message (pm) to Baz who is online at the moment.

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Title: Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
Post by: baz54 on Tuesday 27 July 10 18:50 BST (UK)
Hi closetearl, I'm sorry I don't have any information about Emma Dixey other than she appears on the 1881 census with my gg grandmother Caroline Dixey, I was under the assumption that all of the Dixey's in the workhouse at this time would have been in some way related although that may not be the case. Do you know if there was a connection between Emma and the other Dixey's?
Regards Barry.
Title: Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
Post by: sarahsean on Tuesday 27 July 10 19:13 BST (UK)
Cookham is near Maidenhead.  One of my ancestors was born there. It is a lovely little village on the bank of the river Thames.  There is one church which has modern and old graves. The warden allowed us to have a wander around.

I was in Berkshire record office which incidently is a nightmare to find and there are good records for Cookham there. 

Regards
Sarah
Title: Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
Post by: IMBER on Wednesday 28 July 10 10:29 BST (UK)
Please bear in mind that at the period you are researching many Maidenhead births were recorded as in Cookham registration district (and others in Bray) because Maidenhead itself did not become a registration district until 1896. If someone was born in Maidenhead then that is most probably what would be shown in the census, even if the birth is formally recorded in Cookham registration district. That being the case it would make sense to look carefully at the Dixons found by SandraC.
Title: Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
Post by: christinedixie on Tuesday 05 June 12 20:50 BST (UK)
Hi bit of a shot in the dark but my Dixies mainly come from around Southwark and Bermondsey but I have hit a brickwall with my 4th x grandfather - Levit Dixie who was married to Susannah Jerry in 1810.  Wondered if you had come across him at all in your research.

Christine
Title: Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
Post by: baggygenes on Tuesday 05 June 12 21:16 BST (UK)
Theres a burial of Levit Dixie born 1784 for 29 Dec 1850   Bermondsey,​ Surrey,​ England
the levit/susanna marriage and a marriage for Levit Dixie 04 Nov Westminster (also as Fleet) 1751 to Hannah May which I would say is a good guess for his parents or grandparents maybe?
Title: Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
Post by: closetearl on Thursday 16 August 18 11:54 BST (UK)
Only just found this, apologies.

Emma Dixey is my Grandmother. She married Albert Edward FREWIN on 13th January 1892 in the Parish Church Crowmarsh Gifford.

She went on to have 5 children and died on 13 November 1921 aged 47 years.