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Are you related to the DUBLIN, Ireland MORRISON who was a Presbyterian Minister in the mid 1800s in Dublin.?
If so please ,please get in touch, and make this a very special Christmas present for me as I have come to a very big brick wall.
Or if you have HANBIDGE in you family archives also get in touch.
also the surname TAIT as these surnames are all tied in with the MORRISON side of the family.
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Hello Heppy,
I'm not related to any Morrisons but I'm wondering if the minister you mentioned is Rev. Simpson G. Morrison, Sherrard Street, Lower St Georges, Dublin who is mentioned in Griffith's Valuation of 1848-51? (http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php)
Best Wishes, Christopher
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Hello Christopher,
Yes, Rev Morrison I refer to is REV SIMPSON GABRIEL MORRISON. He was my Great Great Grandfather.
Do you know anything about him.
Thanks for your reply.
Heather Graham,
Worthing,West Sussex,UK
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Hi Heather,
I'll have a look at the Presbyterian Historical Society's "A history of congregation in the Presbyterian church in Ireland 1610-1982" which is in the reference section of the local library to see what it says about your great great Grandfather.
Christopher.
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Hello Heather,
I'm a bit puzzled here. Your post on the Past Times Project website (http://www.pasttimesproject.co.uk/gc_viewrequests.php?subsite=gc&id=102) says that your great great grandfather started his ministry at the 1st Presbyterian Church Armagh and then moved to Plunkett Street, Dublin about 1845 where he stayed.until his death about 1889.
1. What's the connection with Co. Wexford? and 2. Do the records of the churches where he was a minister not show any details of the baptisms and christenings of his children?
Christopher
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I'm even more puzzled than Christopher. History of Congregations doesn't list a Rev. Morrison in 1st Armagh. From 1800-1858 the ministers are: Thomas Cuming (1796-1816), Samuel Eccles (1817-18223), Pooley Shuldam Henry (1826-1846), Alexander Fleming (1846-1851), John Hall (1852-1858). John Hall left 1st Armagh to go to Mary's Abbey, Dublin.
Now back to the mysterious Rev. Morrison. The Suppliment to History of Congregations lists him under Dublin, Union Chapel: "Dr. Stuart resigned in 1841; he was succeeded in 1844 by Rev. S.G. Morrison, the minister of the Independent Chapel in Plunket St. He and his congregation all came to Union Chapel. He attracted a large congregation wit an average attendence of 700. In 1861, the congregtion had 100 families ad 200 communicant members. Morrison retired in 1881. He was succeeded by the Rev. Dr. William Tait who was called from 2nd Castleblayney. He married the daughter of his redecessor. He reigned in 1890." In 1828 on Lower Abbey Street "a larger church was built and called Union Chapel, the title marking the union of the two congregations and also the union of Anti-Burgher and Burgher Synods to form the Secession Synod. Union Chapel burned down in 1916, the congregation united with Abbey Church.
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Hi Heather,
How were you able to post the information about Rev. Simpson Gabriel Morrison
on the Past Times Project website? What source did you find that states that he
started his career in Armagh and ended it in Dublin? It appears to differ slightly
from the information posted by aghadowey.
aghadowey, I did some googling for Independent Presbyterians in Armagh but had very little success in that part of the world. I found a large number of references to them in America and some in Devonshire. Rev. Simpson Gabriel Morrison must have studied at a college or university somewhere prior to being called by the congregation at Armagh and being installed there. The Presbyterians tend to be quite good about recording such events. He may have been trained in Scotland.
Christopher.
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Christopher- looks like Heather hasn't been here since October.
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Christopher- looks like Heather hasn't been here since October.
Hi aghadowey,
If you have the time keep having an occasional look 8)
I've posted replies to several old queries and received a reply. People sometimes take a break and reappear. Vanishing Presbyterian ministers are a serious matter ... does that mean the records of the Presbyterian Church are missing a few important pieces of information. Rev. Morrison and his wife must have had a reasonable size of a family as
they were known to have had eighty grandchildren. I wonder if that figure includes great grandchildren. Help! Heather has a post on Genforum, dated 2002, asking for information about Rev. Dr William Corbett Tait (http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?Dublin::tait::562.html)
Christopher
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Clergymen from the Presbyterian Church in Ireland do not go missing but it seems that Rev. Morrison belonged to a succeeding congregation and earlier details of his ministry might not be found in sources like History of Congregations.
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Christopher- looks like Heather hasn't been here since October.
Hello aghadowey,
Some of the confusion has been sorted by a message I received from Heather on Friday ...
She has found that Rev Simpson Gabriel Morrison stared his ministry as a Wesleyan Minister in Armagh about 1830ish and later changed to a Presbyterian Minister and was minister of Plunkett Street Dublin from about 1845 to his retirement in 1881, and died 1891.
Christopher
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Heppy!
email me! Rev Morrison is my g-g-g grandfather. Ive sent you two emails, and both have bounced.
CanadianGai
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Hi Heppy and Canadian Gail,
Welcome to rootschat.
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Funeral of Rev S. G. Gaberial Morrison 1815 to 1891
Dublin, Wednesday The remains of the late Rev Simpson Gaberial Morrison, minister of the union Chaple presbyterian church lower abbey street, were interred this morning in mount jerome cemetry.
The deceased clergyman, who was presbyterian chaplain to her magesty's prisons in Dublin was considered in his younger days one of the most eloquent prechers in his church. He died on Monday last, at his residence, No 2 Rosemount Terrace North Circular Road, after a painful and protracted illiness. His funeral to-day was very largely attended.
The chief mourners were Simpson Morrison, son Rev Dr Tate, James Adam, Henry Godelin, (misprint for Godden) Wm Miller and the H Davin sons in law John Morrison, William Millar, John Adams, and E T Eustace gransons In the mortuary chapel the burial service was conducted by the rev S Prenter.
(extract from transcript of newspaper report 1891 )
Extract from newspaper report
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how can i contact heppy????
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Welcome to Rootschat, finglasmorrison. Heppy's online at the moment but you need to make 3 posts before sending PMs (personal messages) so I've contacted Heppy about checking your posts on this thread.
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Hello,
Yes I am related to Rev Simpson Gabriel MORRISON. He was my Great Great Grandfather.
His son also, Simpson, married Catherine Hanbidge. I can give you a lot more information if you contact me on (*) or (*) I don't mind which.
Where are you and are you related to Simpson Morrison? and how.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards.
Heather,
Worthing,West Sussex,UK
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Hello,
Yes I am related to Rev Simpson Gabriel MORRISON. He was my Great Great Grandfather.
His son also, Simpson, married Catherine Hanbidge. I can give you a lot more information if you contact me on (*) or (*) I don't mind which.
Where are you and are you related to Simpson Morrison? and how.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards.
Heather,
Worthing,West Sussex,Uk.
im from finglas dublin,
and rev s.g was my great great grand father also.
did you see the photograph i have attached to my previous post?
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Hello again, I don't know your real name ?
Yes I have the photo, of Rev S. G. Morrison, thank you. You obviously know Aileen Godden, ? I do actually have the photo of him and Catherine, but have recently found out that he actually married REBECCA BEGGS from Northern Ireland. and it was his son Simpson Gabriel Morrison (Junior) who married Catherine Hanbidge.
Who were your parents, and grandparents, as I am trying to piece together all S.G's children, he had a lot. I have got a copy of a letter he wrote in about 1883 to his daughter Gabriella who was a governess if I can somehow get your address I will photo copy it for you it is most interesting.
If you give me your name I can look up the Irish telephone numbers and get you that way.
Lovely to hear from you. and hope we can communicate by email better.
Regards.
Heather
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Heather, you should now both be able to use PM system to send email addresses and other details which shouldn't be posted online.
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Happy New Year,
it took a while for me to get in touch with Heather, and I sent her an email yesterday, I acquired a copy of Memories of Wicklow by Hanbidge, I'm not sure if it's the same family, asking her if she is familiar with "Memories".
You are a Morrison? what a beautiful portrait of our ancestor, the Rev Simpson.
Maybe next year my husband and I will get to Ireland, his family is from Bessbrook.
Cheers, Gail
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Hello FinglasMorrison,
Would you know anything about one of Rev. Simpson G. Morrison's sons, David Beggs Morrison? He was born in Dublin about 1850 and died here too in 1922. Would you know anything of his children?
Cheers,
Steven
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Hi just picked up on the Simpson G Morrison connection, looks like he married a Maria Rebbecca Beggs youngest sister of the relation Im looking into David Beggs born in Tyrone in 1822.
In the tree l have, it shows Simpson and Maria had several children, William, Ella, Ada, David, Simpson and about five others at least. Maybe someone might pick up on the Beggs side, apparently they fled Scotland during the persicution of the Covernanters in the 1660's and 1670's.
Cheers Jimmy
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Hi Jimmy!
More Morrisons! and Begg's names. My husband and I are off to Great Britain next week, and at this rate we'll have to go to Dublin! we were "just" planning to visit the Lake District, Scotland, Northern Ireland, just hop around like a couple of bunnies for a couple of weeks.
I don't know anything further back than Simpson Gabriel M and Rebecca Beggs, my "newly" found ggg grandparents, but Im going to try to find out,
Gail
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I know this is a pretty old thread now so not sure if anyone still posting, just to say Simpson G also my ggg grandfather.. my grandfather was Benjamin Morrison, son of Simpson & Catherine Hanbridge, delighted to get all the extra info here!
C
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ive got morrisons in my mcdonald family tree. but scottish, married to mcdonalds and others if yu wish to view the tree pm with email and i will invite you my tree is now private on ancestry, due to problems. so by invite only
marjorie
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Hi, time passes, a year or more, but interest is still active in tracking down descendants and ancestors of Simpson Gabriel Morrison and Maria Rebecca Beggs.
Re Simpson Gabriel Morrison & Catherine Hanbridge, thire children are:
.. 2 John Hanbidge Morrison 1874 -
.. 2 Catherine Hanbidge Morrison 1876 -
.. 2 Benjamin Hanbidge Morrison 1878 -
.. 2 Holton Hanbidge Morrison 1881 -
.. 2 William Hanbidge Morrison 1882 -
.. 2 Margaret Hanbidge Morrison 1884 - 1884
.. 2 Robert Hanbidge Morrison 1886 -
.. 2 Ada Hanbidge Morrison 1888 -
.. 2 Richard Hanbidge Morrison 1889 -
.. 2 Elizabeth Hanbidge Morrison 1890 - 1890
and that's as far as I've got...
Gail
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Do you know if they moved from Ireland to Aegyll in scotland as I have a number of Morrison on one of my trees from the Isle of Harris ?
Marcie Dean
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Gabriella Richardina Dill Morrison (1857-1949 aka Ella) youngest child of Simpson Gabriel Morrison & Maria Rebecca Beggs married Dr George Cockburn Warden Jr (1856-1916) son of George Cockburn Warden 1824-1908) in 1881.
George Cockburn Warden's father was William Warden (1777-1849) of Alyth, Forfarshire, Scotland.
Those are just facts. After this I have to go by "oral history". Ella was "Scots-Irish", according to my grandmother, Ella's granddaughter.
Here in Canada many term their ancestors Scots-Irish, many have Scottish surnames but the family came from Ireland in the early 1800's to distinguish those who came because of the Irish Famine. I have ancestors surnamed McClelland and Gordon that seem to be decidedly Scottish names, but declare on their gravestones "Native of Ireland".
So did the Simpson Gabriel Morrison come from Scotland? Simpson and Morrison are also Scottish names. Maria Rebecca Beggs was born in Aughnacloy Northern Ireland, according to some record.
I wonder if Heather Graham "Heppy" would like to add anything?
Others researching the family of Simpson Gabriel Morrison & Maria Rebecca Beggs and their 13 children & 80 grandchildren would like to know ...
So far I can only identify 12 of the 13. A daughter married Holton Davin of Tipperary.
Further, I'm guessing that Simpson Gabriel Morrison may have been named after his mother, a Miss Simpson or Miss Gabriel. Pure guess, have to look for a Mr Morrison who married a Miss Simpson or Miss Gabriel around 1810.
Note: when Rev Simpson Gabriel Morrison died in 1891 his sons-in-law were named!!!! Good manners indeed not to give any female a name!!!
Gail
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Hi Gail and other Morrison, I work for an auction company in the UK which is selling a good conduct and diligence medal to Rev. Simpson Gabriel Morrison, Santry school for the promotion of English Protestants 1863...online on thesaleroom.com on the 4th October John Nicholson's sale...any interest to your family......
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are any of these relative or just coincidence, from irish genealogy,
baptism in the rotunda chapel 30 march 1884 margaret millar morrison dtr of
simpson gabriel and margaret morrison ,river view ctg,botanic ave , dairy proprieter.
from family search.org
marriage at st thomas 16 nov 1865
thos fox eustace age 28 widower son of thos eustace to
anna bose morrison age 21 dtr of simpson gabriel morrison.
marriage at st thomas dublin 6th july 1861
william henry cecil tessier son of george fred tessier to
marie eliz morrison age 22 dtr of simpson g morrison.
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david beggs morrison married to mary anne? about 1883 mary anne from tralee co kerry as per census 1901/1911 dublin. 12 children born 7 alive in 1911, must have travelled a bit children born in dublin ,essex,bradford and guernsey.
at 21 carnew st dublin 1901 as david morrison age 53
at 2 annamoe rd glasnevin 1911 as david beggs morrison age 62.
dosent seem to be a marriage for him in ireland for circa 1883 maybe at one of the english addresses for his children.
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e t eustace grandson at the funeral in 1891 is most likely eustace eustace son of anna morrison and thomas fox eustace
1901 census of dublin shows them at 4 mcmahon st
anna eustace formerly morrison age 57
cecil age 25
eustace age 33
ethel age 28 they seem to be missing off 1911 census with the exception of cecil.
cecil eustace age 35 41 bloomfield ave married 3 years no children.
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more rellies for you.
1901 and 1911 census of 21 smithfield
holton davin age 49 distiller from tipperary
jane davin age 39 gdaughter ?
adelaide tessier 35 gdaughter
rebecca morrison 30 niece and
in 1911 ethel eustace[eustase] from the census above.
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two births from family search dtrs of william henry cecil tessier and maria elizabeth morrison.
18 may 1862 bellingham ,northumberland,england . jane white beggs tessier.
1st jan 1866 castle eden,durham ,england . adelaide marie louise tessier.
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calendar of wills and administrations.
george reylance died 21 march 14 hendrick st granted at dublin to holten davin,distiller, and sarah winter ,spinster effects 1392pds 6s.
1901 census shows same address,george reylance age 78 single, carpenter born tipp and sarah winter age 30 his niece. sarah louise winter also inherited 183 pds on 1st feb 1895 from her mother also sarah winter same address.
thos fox eustace late of 6 brunswick st,captain in h m army died 12 april 1886 at same place granted to anne rose eustace widow of 7 anglesea st dublin 202pds 2s 6d.
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anne boyle morrison eustace died 31 may 1904 at 4 mcmahon st from gastritis and heart failure aged about 60.
source from ''eustace family association''.
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Can any of you lot tell me which of the daughters of Rev. Simpson Gabriel Morrison married Holton Davin? I know a lot about the Morrisons but I can't find this one fact. There was a daughter Hannah, born in 1856 and it could be her but I'm not prepared to accept supposition.
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Holton Davin appears to have died in 1926.
Death Rathdown
Oct Dec 1926 age 74
vol 2 page 501.
A search in the newspapers might find his obituary which may mention his wifes name or finding his grave might might find her interned with him.
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I've tried that. He was a widower before 1901 and finding where he was buried is proving difficult. I suspect an extended trip to Dublin might be on the cards. How I do curse those who destroyed the records. Life would be so easy if there were more census records.
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I wonder would he be buried in his home County Tipperary.
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Unlikely. He never went back after he'd moved to Dublin. He was like a man who moves to London and never leaves. Dublin was home. Mount Jerome maybe or the place at Glasnevin.
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checked Glasnevin Trust Genealogy not on index there.
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So maybe he's in Mount Jerome but even if he is, I know when and where he died and I guess his wife may not be listed. He's just so interesting and I want to know who and what made him tick.
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Have you connected these Families to the Davins,Sibthorpes,Wilsons and Davins brewers from the North Anne St Brewery.
Holton Davin was witness at the marriage of John Sibthorpe to Mary Ellen Davin dtr of John Davin brewer they can all be found on the 1901/1911 censuses.
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I've got all that and it makes fascinating reading. I'm just exasperated that I can't discover which of Simpson Gabriel Morrison's daughters Holton Davin married. Granted, the only one available is Hannah and she's the right age but she doesn't seem to exist anywhere. Trouble is that I'm a determined researcher and I can't let it go.
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This is a last straw,
John H Sterling Davin was born in Dublin north July Dec 1894 vol 2 page 488
He died in 1898 as John Holton S Davin age 3.
The point i am making the name Holton not only being unique in Ireland but seemingly on all registrations might point to a connection a son?.
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The little boy belonged to Holton's brother James who had five children. Holton was a professional uncle. He spent a lot of his time living in Smithfield, Dublin and sharing his home with three of his nieces, daughters all of them of his sisters in law.
Nice to find someone else who has tried. My family consider me to be nuts.
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Ditto
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Its looks like Holton DAVIN married Marie Elizabeth TESSIER nee MORRISON although I cannot find a marriage record.
Marie Elizabeth DAVIN died in December 1/4 1884, age 44 (Ref: Dublin North 2 402).
In the 1901 Census, Holton DAVIN (49, Distiller, Widower), was living at house 21 in Smithfield (Arran Quay, Dublin), with Step Daughters, Jane DAVIN (39) and Adelaide TESSIER (35), Niece, Rebecca MORRISON (30), and Servants, Martha DALY (76, Cook Domestic) and Mary CONRAN (Housemaid Domestic).
Adelaide TESSIER was Marie's daughter with her first husband, William Henry Cecil TESSIER so although I cannot find a marriage of Marie to Holton, the fact that Marie's daughter, Adelaide appears in the 1901 census as a step daughter to Holton is I believe sufficient proof of his marriaage to Marie.
Peter Harris :P
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Have you got his Will
you can order a copy here
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search-the-archives/
this man appears to have been his executor
James A Davin
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Pembroke_East/Ailesbury_Road/45867/
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Hi
Rev Morrisson's father was Benjamin Morrisson. From Belfast Newsletter Tuesday 7 May 1867-
May 3, Mr Benjamin Morrisson, Portadown, father of the Rev. S G Morrison, of Dublin, aged 65 years.
I suspect that Benjamin also had a son named Benjamin Morrisson who married Martha Cave of Lurgan, Armagh. They had 7 children, none of whom seem to have survived passed 1911 (if the census record for the couple is correct.). They had 3 sons named Benjamin, a son William and another named Robert. Still searching for the others. Martha Cave is my relative via marriage.
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Can someone explain why this is in the Wexford Board, and not Dublin, or the general Ireland Board?
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Can someone explain why this is in the Wexford Board, and not Dublin, or the general Ireland Board?
... because this thread started off, in 2006, looking for a Rev. Morrison in Dublin :)
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My interest is in anti-slavery in Ireland.
In 1846, Rev. Simpson Gabriel Morrison gave three anti-slavery lectures in Dublin.