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Title: Price Family Knighton
Post by: GP35 on Saturday 30 December 06 00:35 GMT (UK)
8) Great Grandfather farmed Garth  Farm in the 1881 Census.he was born around 1840 in St Harmon.
 My Grandfather John Oliver was 7. in the 1881 Census.
Any information on this on this Family would be welcome
John Oliver Died in New Zealand in the 1950s
Many thanks.
GP35.
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Saturday 30 December 06 00:58 GMT (UK)
Hi GP35

Welcome to RootsChat. ;D As you only mention the 1881 census I'm assuming (!)  ;D that you don't have this information -

1851 Census  Gollen Radnorshire   District: Rhayader

Cwmpoith

Benjamin Price, head, 34, School Master, St Harmon
Ann, wife, 29, Abbeycwmhir Radnorshire
Benjamin Oliver, son, 9, St Harmon
Ann, dau, 8, Llanvorttsol Breconshire
Calep, son, 6, St Harmon
David, son, 4, St Harmon

HO107/2494
Folio: 20
Page: 17

Darcy
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Saturday 30 December 06 01:04 GMT (UK)
On the 1881 Census  Benjamin's wife is Mary. This marriage is in the right area.

Marriages Jun 1872  Knighton  Radnorshire

Benjamin Price
Mary Gough    Volume: 11b  Page: 249

Darcy
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Saturday 30 December 06 01:14 GMT (UK)
1861 Census  Llanbadarn Fyndd  Radnorshire  ( Knighton District)

Evan Meredith, head, 64, Farmer 180 Acres, Llananno Radnorshire
Jane, wife, 60, Llandewey Radnorshire
John Lloyd, un, 40, Farmer's Servant, Llanbadarn-Fynydd Radnorshire
Thomas Greenhouse, un, 17, Farmer's Servant, Nantmeal Radnorshire
Benjamin O Price, un, 19, Farmer's Servant, Saint Harmon Radnorshire
Ann Thomas, un, 16, House Maid, Llanbadarn-Fynydd Radnorshire
Sarah Jones, un, 21, Dairy Maid, Abbey-Cwmair Radnorshire

RG/4236
Folio: 4
Page: 1

Darcy
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Saturday 30 December 06 01:29 GMT (UK)
1841 Census  St Harmon  Radnorshire

Vran

Benjamin Price, 20, Farmer, born in county
Ann, 20, born in county
Benjamin Oliver, 2 months, born in county
Richard Evans, 20, Male Servant, born in county
Mary Marris, 15, Female Servant, born in county

HO107/1458/4
Folio: 11
Page: 1



Darcy

Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Saturday 30 December 06 01:48 GMT (UK)
Amending this post. There is another Benjamin Price born at around the same time.

I'm just checking the 1851 again as it doesn't match the 1841. ::)

Darcy
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: GP35 on Saturday 30 December 06 02:09 GMT (UK)
:D Darcy. Many thanks for this info it has taken me back further than I was able to get before I joined this group,
this is just what I needed to get me motivated again.
I'm always looking for more Info
Cheers
GP35.
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Saturday 30 December 06 02:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Again, ;D

just hold on until I check some of this info. I may have confused one of the Benjamin's born at the same time. I'm looking at the 1851 again.

Darcy
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Saturday 30 December 06 02:29 GMT (UK)
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Well, I believe the 1851 census is correct. Benjamin senior must have changed occupation. As you will know the ages are rounded down to the nearest 5 years in 1841. If Benjamin was 24 in 1841 his age would be correct in 1851.

I had posted the wrong family for Benjamin Oliver in 1871 - the mother was Elizabeth, a widow. When I found Benjamin Oliver on the earlier census his mother was Ann.  :D

I'm still trying to find him in 1871. ::)

Darcy
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Saturday 30 December 06 02:54 GMT (UK)
 Here is Benjamin and Ann in Monmouthshire - another change of occupation - ;D

1861 Census  Panteg  Monmouthshire  Registration District: Pontypool

Benjamin Price, head, 44 Labourer at Iron Works, St Harmon Radnorshire
Ann, wife, 40, Abbey Cwmhire Radnorshire
Eliza Jane, dau, 9, Abbey Cwmhire Radnorshire

RG9/4010
Folio: 30
Page: 3

Darcy


Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Saturday 30 December 06 03:19 GMT (UK)


1871 Census  Panteg  Monmouthshire


Upper Cwm

Benjamin Price, head, 53, Labourer at Iron Works, Abbey Cwmhire Radnorshire
Ann, wife, 50, Abbey Chmhire Radnorshire
Eliza J, dau, 19, Abbey Cwmhire Radnorshire

RG10/5336
Folio: 22
Page: 37

Darcy
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Saturday 30 December 06 03:33 GMT (UK)

1881 Census  Panteg  Mounmouthshire

Upper Cwm

Benjamin Price, head, 64, Radnorshire
Annie, wife, 60, Radnorshire

RG11/5254
Folio: 19
Page: 32

Darcy
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Saturday 30 December 06 03:52 GMT (UK)


1891 Census  Panteg  Monmouthshire

Upper Cwm

St Morgan's Row

Benjamin Price, head, 74, Milk Vendor, St Harmon Radnorshire
Ann, wife, 70, Abbey Cwmhire Radnorshire

RG12/4364
Folio: 36
Page: 44

Darcy
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Saturday 30 December 06 03:57 GMT (UK)

I haven't had any luck in finding Benjamin Oliver Price in 1871.

Deaths Dec Quarter 1892  Pontypool

Ann Price, 72                   Volume: 11a   Page: 92


Deaths Mar Quarter 1893  Pontypool

Benjamin Price, 76           Volume: 11a   page: 107
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: GP35 on Saturday 30 December 06 04:16 GMT (UK)
::) Darcy.
There is a lot to Digest .
Could you follow John Oliver, would like to find out when he left Knighton Mum told me that there could have been some
skeletons in the cupboard.
Great work
Cheers
GP35
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Saturday 30 December 06 04:20 GMT (UK)
I'll have a look for John Oliver.

Last one Benjamin & Ann. This looks like their marriage -

Marriages  June Quarter 1840  Knighton

Benjamin Price
Anne James             Volume: 26   Page: 419

Darcy

PS - I got so many skeletons in the cupboard they are spilling out onto the floor............ ;D
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Saturday 30 December 06 05:15 GMT (UK)

Well, they are not easy to find in 1891! Have you any idea when John Oliver left for NZ?

This is the best match I can see for him. The birthplace given in 1881 is Knighton so it's the same area.

1891 Census  Beguildy  Radnorshire       (Knighton District)

John Price, un, 17, Farm Servant, Beguildy Radnorshire

Servant to William Lloyd & Family, Farmer

RG12/4582
Folio: 59
Page: 11

I'm struggling to find the rest of the family but will have another look later.

Regards
Darcy
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Saturday 30 December 06 05:20 GMT (UK)
I've just found them .....
Posting soon.

Darcy ;D
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Saturday 30 December 06 05:29 GMT (UK)

1891 Census    Staunton on Arrow  Herefordshire

Millgreen

Benjamin Price, head, 48, Farm Labourer, St Harmon Radnorshire
Mary, wife, 43, Bettws Salop
George Ernest, son, 11, Scholar, Knighton
Mary Elenor, dau, 9, Scholar, Knighton
Evangeline, dau, 5, Scholar, Knighton
Rose Ann, dau, 5, Knighton
Margaret Alice, dau, 6, Scholar, Knighton
Olive, dau, 2, Titley Herefordshire

RG12/2077
Folio: 79
Page: 1

Darcy
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Saturday 30 December 06 05:34 GMT (UK)

1901 Census  Birley  Herefordshire

Benjamin Price, head, 59, Ag Lab, St Harmon Radnorshire
Mary, wife, 53, Betws Shropshire
Olive, dau, 12, Titley Herefordshire

RG13/2487
Folio: 86
Page: 3

Darcy
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Saturday 30 December 06 05:45 GMT (UK)
This is the John Price I gave you in 1891. Perhaps you can rule him out, or in  ;D  -on this,

1901 Census  Beguildy  Radnorshire                           Language Spoken

John Price, head, 27, General Domestic Servant           English
Martha, wife, 23 , Bettws Salop                                  English
Lillie E, dau, 5 months, Beguildy                                  English  ( stroked out)


RG13/5182
Folio: 118
Page:


Martha has the same place of birth as Mary Price so hopefully that's a good sign. :D

Regards
Darcy

Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: GP35 on Saturday 30 December 06 22:51 GMT (UK)
::)Darcy
Looking through what info I have at home the Following may help
You are Benjamin & Mary are the right ones John Oliver was 7 years old in the 1881 census.
I don't know when he arrived in New Zealand, but He married : Florence May Goulds in St Marks Church Rakaia
on the 1/ 7/1912. John was in his late 30s Florence was 18.
John died June 3rd 1955.
I believe he may have worked in OZ before he came to NZ.
 ;D ;D Cheers GP35
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Sunday 31 December 06 05:28 GMT (UK)

Success is mine. ;D Here is John living close to his parents -

1891 Census  Staunton on Arrow  Herefordshire

Lower House

John Price, servant, un, 17, Under Wagoner, Knighton Radnorshire

Servant to David Rogers & Family, Farmer

RG12/2077
Folio: 79
Page: 2

Darcy
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Sunday 31 December 06 05:48 GMT (UK)
Me again, ;D

It looks as if John left for NZ before 1901 as I haven't managed to find him on the census.

At least you have a time frame for looking at shipping records.

If I can help you with any other lookups for the family feel free to ask. ;D

Regards
Darcy :D
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: GP35 on Sunday 31 December 06 06:32 GMT (UK)
:D :D :D Darcey
 Thanks for all the help you have given me.
Will now start looking at shipping records.
 Have a good NEW YEAR.
 Cheers GP35. ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Darcy on Sunday 31 December 06 07:40 GMT (UK)
You are welcome GP35,

All the Best for 2007 and Good luck with your search. ;D

Darcy ;)
Title: Re: Price Family Knighton
Post by: Ali123 on Wednesday 27 September 17 05:21 BST (UK)
Really enjoying reading these bits about the Price family. I see the most recent post looks like almost 11 years ago! John Oliver is my grandfather. I know he was in NZ in 1911 from NZ Census records but don't know when he left the UK and where he ended up before setting in the Rakaia district in NZ.