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Title: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: cristobel on Sunday 07 January 07 04:30 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Would like to find the births of children to:
William Archibald McEwan and Margaret Ellen Samel/Sammels/Samuel ? who married in SA on 21 Dec 1898.

Also would like to follow up on any marriages of those children.

Thanks in advance.
Cheers, Chris
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: tropicalj on Sunday 07 January 07 06:09 GMT (UK)
hello  there

births  in SA australia
to William Archibald McEwan  and Margaret Ellen Sammels

ELIZABETH ANDERSON McEWAN born 21/6/1899 at Bowden book642page 431

MARGARET McEWAN born 3/9/1901 at Ridleyton Blocks 682/412

WILLIAM ARCHILBALD McEWAN born 23/11/1903 at Bowden 721/291

WILLIAM HENRY McEWAN born 26/10/1905  Adelaide 755/410

I couldn't  find  a  death  on  the index  for  any of  these children  up  to 1916  nor  any marriages  up to 1916

regards jenn
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: deeiluka on Sunday 07 January 07 06:36 GMT (UK)
The only marriage I can find to 1937 is the following......


Ernest Harold RUNDLE aged 26 single
Married  16 May 1925 at Holy Trinity Church Adelaide
Margaret Ellen MCEWAN aged 23 single
Fathers: Alfred RUNDLE & William Archibald MCEWAN
Ref: Ade 303/646

Hope that helps......dee
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: cristobel on Sunday 07 January 07 07:14 GMT (UK)
Hello Jenn & dee
Thank you for that info.  It all helps.
Cheers, Chris
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: cristobel on Sunday 07 January 07 10:06 GMT (UK)

Hello again
Just following on from that - is there a death for William Archibald McEwan. His wife Margaret Sammels remarried in 1921.
Thankyou.  Chris
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: deeiluka on Sunday 07 January 07 22:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris, Can't see a death for William Archibald McEwan/McEwen/ McEwin I'm afraid. However, I have found the following.....

Elizabeth Anderson MCEWAN died 22 Apr 1916 aged 16 at Adelaide
Father: William Archibald MCEWAN
Ref: Ade Symbol: H 400/578

William Henry MCEWAN died 22 Jun 1925 aged 19 at Norwood (residence St Peters)
Father: William Archibald MCEWAN
Ref: Nor Symbol: HS 479/207

......dee
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: cristobel on Sunday 07 January 07 22:56 GMT (UK)
Hi dee
Thanks for those deaths.
I was presuming William McEwan died because she (Margaret) remarried.  Perhaps they divorced. !!  Are divorce records available - this is a new area for me.
Cheers, Chris
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: deeiluka on Sunday 07 January 07 23:01 GMT (UK)
Can't help you about divorce records, Chris. However, I shall check out a few other things I have later in the day - really should be getting off this computer for a while now.

Will let you know if I find anything more.......dee
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 07 January 07 23:15 GMT (UK)
William Archibald McEwan enlisted ww2
Born 23/11/1903 at Bowden SA
He enlisted in sydney and NOK is Agnes McEwan
 The File is is listed OPEN so you can apply for free digitisation
 http://www.naa.gov.au
Sue
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: cristobel on Sunday 07 January 07 23:23 GMT (UK)
Sue & dee

Thank you - maybe there was a divorce with that next of kin showing.  Or perhaps its good ol' Mum................
I'll check out his service record in any case.

Cheers, Chris
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: deeiluka on Sunday 07 January 07 23:36 GMT (UK)
The war record would be that of the son William Archibald McEwan. I expect that Agnes is his wife, but if he married after 1937 it won't be in the Index.

I'll search further for the father William Archibald McEwan .....dee
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: deeiluka on Sunday 07 January 07 23:40 GMT (UK)
And there is this website Chris......

http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/

.....dee
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: deeiluka on Monday 08 January 07 08:54 GMT (UK)
Chris, I have searched some more for William Archibald McEwan senior's death - have tried all kinds of spellings and wildcards - but could not locate him.

I took a look at Victorian and NSW records too - in case he went to either of those states for whatever reason.

I did find Margaret's second marrige record if you want that. ........dee
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: cristobel on Monday 08 January 07 11:23 GMT (UK)
Yes dee I would like the second marriage details.  Thanks for trying to locate WA McEwan senior.  Much appreciated.
Cheers, Chris
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 08 January 07 11:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris, Can't see a death for William Archibald McEwan/McEwen/ McEwin I'm afraid. However, I have found the following.....

Elizabeth Anderson MCEWAN died 22 Apr 1916 aged 16 at Adelaide
Father: William Archibald MCEWAN
Ref: Ade Symbol: H 400/578

William Henry MCEWAN died 22 Jun 1925 aged 19 at Norwood (residence St Peters)
Father: William Archibald MCEWAN
Ref: Nor Symbol: HS 479/207

......dee

hello there Dee

does  these  deaths actual  list  the fathers name?
or  does  it  list  relative?

regards jenn
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: deeiluka on Monday 08 January 07 11:53 GMT (UK)
Will get the marriage details for you tomorrow, Chris.

Jenn, there is an initial code by the relative - F = father; H=  Husband; B = Brother etc.

I have taken the information and put it into my own words ......dee
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 08 January 07 11:56 GMT (UK)
hello there Dee

so  the  father was  still alive in 1925

after  the  mother  has remarried ?

regards jenn
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: deeiluka on Monday 08 January 07 12:01 GMT (UK)
I guess that is a possibility, Jenn - although her marriage entry did show that she was a widow. More likely his death record has not made the index - mistakes do happen in Indexes as we all know. There is also the possibility that his death in another state I suppose........dee
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: deeiluka on Monday 08 January 07 12:12 GMT (UK)
Sorry Jenn - were you meaning because William Archibald senior was given as the father on the marriage certificate of the daughter in 1925 he was still alive?  I have marriage certificates where the father is deceased but no mention is made of that fact - the certificate lists him as the father.

Hope I am making sense - think it is time I stopped - too tired......dee
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 08 January 07 12:36 GMT (UK)
hello   there Dee

no  on  the death details  for william henry  in 1925 you  have  the  father as  william archibald  thats why  I  asked did  they  list father  on  these  indexs  or was  it  relative for  the death  if  so  then  his  father was still alive

regards jenn
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: deeiluka on Monday 08 January 07 20:49 GMT (UK)
I'll get there in the end, Jenn - it actually has the relative entered as William Archibald  -and yes, he could still be alive.

But - because it says "Relative" I have found that sometimes the person actually giving the information has said the father's name for relative, even if the father is dead.

In other words, William Archibald senior - could be alive or dead by 1925. Either way his death is not listed in SA indexes up to 1972. It would be quite surprising if he was still alive by then.

........dee
Title: Re: SA Birth lookup please
Post by: deeiluka on Tuesday 09 January 07 21:41 GMT (UK)
Here's Margaret's second marriage. Interesting to note that she was recorded as a widow and married in Holy Trinity Church. Wouldn't that be unlikely at that time if she was divorced?    ......dee

William Ellis RICHARDS aged 37 Single
Married 17 Sep 1921 at Holy Trinity Church Adelaide
Margaret Ellen MCEWAN aged 39 Widow
Fathers: Sampson RICHARDS & William Henry SAMMELLS
Ref: Ade 288/813