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Title: WILLIAM HENRY HEALE b1832 Disappearance.
Post by: Hele on Wednesday 10 January 07 19:59 GMT (UK)

Hi Everyone,
                   My last record of William Henry Heale is on the 1851C,as an App' Cabinet Maker aged 18 and living with family in Barnstaple,I can't pin down any record of him after this date in Census,Marriage or Death.By 1871 the family are using Hele and no luck even with this spelling.
Any help greatfully received.
Thanks  Bernie

Title: Re: WILLIAM HENRY HEALE b1832 Disappearance.
Post by: buttonmoon on Wednesday 24 January 07 15:43 GMT (UK)

Hi Bernie, here's a possibility, can't work out whether the name is Heale or Hale. Its been transcribed as Hale.

1861

William Hy ?Hale/Heale 28 born Broadstairs, Kent a cabinet ?turner
Ann 26 born Shoreditch, Middlesex
Angelina 2 born Shoreditch
Henry 1 born Shoreditch

living 28 Willow Walk, Shoreditch St Leonard, Middlesex

RG9/235
99
30

Regards
Kate.

Title: Re: WILLIAM HENRY HEALE b1832 Disappearance.
Post by: deb usa on Thursday 25 January 07 16:48 GMT (UK)

Hi

I think this may be them in 1881

High Road
2 bull row
Tottenham

William HALE head widow 48 cabinet maker Kent Broadstairs
Angelina HALE dau  22 b Shoreditch
Emma       "        '      16     "
Clara        "        "     13     "
Ellen         "       "      11    "

RG11/1383 fol 114 pg 15

regards
Deb

Title: Re: WILLIAM HENRY HEALE b1832 Disappearance.
Post by: deb usa on Thursday 25 January 07 17:12 GMT (UK)

Hi

This may be a possible marriage:

William Henry HALE
Ann TISBURY
4th quarter 1857, Shoreditch, Middlesex

vol 1c pg 349

Deb

Title: Re: WILLIAM HENRY HEALE b1832 Disappearance.
Post by: deb usa on Thursday 25 January 07 17:45 GMT (UK)

back again  ;D

1891:
Tottenham, 6 Whyham? cott?

William HALE head widow 59 cabinet maker b Ramsgate
Ellen HALE dau S dom. servant 21 b Hackney, Middlesex


This Family in 1871 adds  up in all ways except for William's occupation...but the wife and childrens names and DOB and POB all seem correct.

1871
RG10/331 fol 99 p 62

St Micheals and All Angels, London
William HALE head mar 38 GLOVE DYER b Ramsgate
Ann wife mar 36   b Shoreditch
Angelina dau 12        "
Henry son 10            "
Ann dau 9                 "
Elizabeth 7                "
emma    5                  "           (with William in 1881)
Clara   2              b Hackney   (  "        "            " )
Ellen 1                       "           ( she is with her dad William in 1881 and 1891)

what do you think , bernie and Kate ?

regards
deb

Title: Re: WILLIAM HENRY HEALE b1832 Disappearance.
Post by: Hele on Friday 26 January 07 16:05 GMT (UK)

I can't thank you all enough for your suggestions, FamilySearch.org : WILLIAM HENRY HEALE b' 26th Apr' 1832 in Saint Mary Magdalene,Woolich,Kent and Christening 13th May 1832,St Mary Magdalene,Woolich,Kent,England.
1841 Census there living with the Underhays in Stoke Damerel,Devonport and lists family as all born in County,which is wrong as his Sister,Mother and Grandmother are Cornish his Father b 1799 in Ugborough,Devon.Between the 1841 Census and 1851 census his Father William H Heale had gone from being a Sergeant in the North Devon Malitia to a Greenwich Pensioner.
1851 C' Barnstaple:
William Heale  51 Greenwich Pensioner born in Ugborough Devon.
Ruth        "      42      Wife                          "    in Wllcove Cornwall.
William H  "     18      Son Cabinet Maker App' born in Woolich Kent.
Ruth A      "     17      Dau' Milliner                        "   in Willcove Cornwall.
George F  "       4      Son  Scholar                       "   in Barnstaple Devon.
All disappear bar George F 1861 Census living in Stoke Damerel,Devon.
1871 Census all back in Stoke Damerel and still missing the above William.
There are a number of William Heale's marrying in the 1850s in Devon including 1 in 1853 Barnstaple  :-\ .
As a last resort I could get GRO too do a search ££££££££ ??? .
Thanks Again  Bernie

Title: Re: WILLIAM HENRY HEALE b1832 Disappearance.
Post by: deb usa on Tuesday 30 January 07 14:46 GMT (UK)

Hi

I found this marriage:

Ruth Amelia HELE 3rd q 1862 Stoke Damerel
To either... Thomas LADD or Samuel BLAND
vol 5b p 596

in 1861:
Amelia HELE b 1836 Is working as a drapers assistant in Stoke Dameral at the SAME place as George F Heale....

RG9/1448 fol 8 p 10

regards
Deb

Title: Re: WILLIAM HENRY HEALE b1832 Disappearance.
Post by: deb usa on Tuesday 30 January 07 14:55 GMT (UK)

Hi again

this could be a possible:

1861
RG 9/1398 fol 105 p 22

William H HELE  28 assistant  b 1833
living in St Mary Arches , Exeter

the only problem with this William is that he says he was born in Plymouth  :(

Deb

Title: Re: WILLIAM HENRY HEALE b1832 Disappearance.
Post by: deb usa on Tuesday 30 January 07 15:41 GMT (UK)

1881;

Stoke Damerel:
William H HELE head wid 80 pensioner RN b devon. Ugborough
Ruth A Ladd wid  38 boarding house keeper b anthony, Cornwall
Richard J Johnes boarder 37 engineer RN b Plymouth
Mary Dawe S Unm gen ser dom  b Stoke Damerel

RG11/2214 fol 90 p 22

This may be a possible for William in 1881:
RG12/533 fol 66 p 7
Wm Hale Head m 55 Carpenter born woolwich
living with his wife Emily and children  in Woolwich.

regards
Deb

Title: Re: WILLIAM HENRY HEALE b1832 Disappearance.
Post by: Hele on Thursday 01 February 07 21:15 GMT (UK)

Hi Deb,
           Thanks for all your help,Ruth Amelia Heale b1834 did marry Thomas Ladd in 1862 and had 1 son Thomas Frederick William Ladd in 1864.
She was indeed working with her brother George Frederick Heale b1846 as per the 1861 Census you found,there brothers disappearance is a mystery though.
William Henry Heale Snr' b1799 in Ugborough Devon,was injured whilst serving in the Royal Navy and hospitalized at the Greenwich Royal Naval Hospital,I believe Ruth his wife gave birth to my missing William b1832 in Kent for this reason,'theres never been an association with Kent',before or after this event.
FamilySearch.org gives his birth as 26th Apr 1832.
Thanks again,I shall keep plodding on.
Regards  Bernie

Title: Re: WILLIAM HENRY HEALE b1832 Disappearance.
Post by: Vulture on Sunday 09 May 21 08:12 BST (UK)

With Reference to the same name around the same time Lot 386 show various legal documents involving William Heale.

https://www.easyliveauction.com/catalogue/lot/43d152c85fbcf0a416307d7f4c99c08a/0af8d24542e81eb9357e7ef448a6646f/on-the-instructions-of-mrs-xandria-williams-formally-willi/

Also regarding his disappearance he may have been awaiting trial. Old Bailey Court Proceedings, around the same, in the same area (Barnstable) see him on trial for perjury.

https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/print.jsp?div=t18700711

I know it is a late reply (some 13 years later)

Regards. V