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Title: 1841 Birkenhead census lookup please
Post by: penshurst on Wednesday 10 January 07 21:02 GMT (UK)
I am looking for the following family in Birkenhead in 1841.

James and Ann [nee Bickerton] GALT.


I am especially keen to find out where Ann [Bickerton] was born so I can follow up this line.

many thanks for your time
an Aussie who wishes she could do this for herself
Title: Re: 1841 Birkenhead census lookup please
Post by: ricky1 on Wednesday 10 January 07 21:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Penshurst
1841
has this family
James Galt 30 joiner Scotland
Ann       "    30 not born in county
Walter   "    7 born in county
Sarah    "    4         "
William  "    2         "
James   "    1         "
Ann        "   3 months "
living at Brook Street, Birkenhead, Cheshire
H0107/ 126/10
folio 15
page 25

1841 Dosn't give place of births , just born in county or not, except when someone is not born in the country

ricky
Title: Re: 1841 Birkenhead census lookup please
Post by: ricky1 on Wednesday 10 January 07 21:35 GMT (UK)
If the above family are correct
This is the same family in 1861
James Galt head mar 54 ??? joiner Scotland
Ann       "    wife mar 51               Shropshire ???
Walter   "   son u/m 27 joiner     Cheshire Birkenhead
Sarah    "   dau u/m 23                     "       West Kirby?
William  "    son u/m 22 joiner           "             "
Emma    "    dau u/m 16                    "       Birkenhead
James B  "   son u/m 12 scholar        "           "
William Bickerton br/in/law u/m 36  Shropshire Oswestry?
living at 3 Princes Street?, Birkenhead, Cheshire
Rg9/ 2643
folio 140
page 23

ricky

P.S
 Anns place of birth has been transcribed as Elbamett, no such place that I can see in Shropshire

Title: Re: 1841 Birkenhead census lookup please
Post by: ricky1 on Wednesday 10 January 07 21:47 GMT (UK)
1851
James Galt head mar 44 joiner Scotland
Ann       "   wife mar 41             Cheshire Elsmere?
Walter   "   son u/m 17 joiner (app) "       Birkenhead
Sarah     "   dau u/m 13 scholar        "       West Kirby
William   "   son u/m 12      "             "               "
Emma     "   dau u/m 6        "             "     Birkenhead
James     "   son u/m 2                       "           "
William Bickerton br/in/law u/m 26 schoolmaster Shropshire Oswestry?
living at 2 Napier Street/, Birkenhead, Cheshire

H0107/ 2175
folio 601
page 65

Transcribed as Gatt

ricky

Title: Re: 1841 Birkenhead census lookup please
Post by: ricky1 on Wednesday 10 January 07 21:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Penshurst
1871
James Galt head mar 63 ??? joiner Scotland
Ann       "    wife mar 61                  Shropshire ???
James B  "   son u/m 22 book keeper Cheshire Birkenhead
William Bickerton br/in/law u/m 45  ???   Reader     Shropshire ???
Mary Appleton? serv u/m 14 or 24 ?  gen serv domestic Scotland
Living at Birkenhead, Cheshire
Rg10/ 3748
folio 59
page 1

ricky
Title: Re: 1841 Birkenhead census lookup please
Post by: randh on Thursday 11 January 07 10:37 GMT (UK)
William Bickerton, mentioned as brother in law on 1851 census appears on IGI;
Baptism, William Bickerton 12 Dec 1824 Oswestry Shropshire, Parents John Bickerton and Sarah. There doesn't appear to be a reference to Ann.
Regards randh.
Title: Re: 1841 Birkenhead census lookup please
Post by: penshurst on Thursday 11 January 07 22:38 GMT (UK)
I want to thank the people who have helped me out with information on the GALT/BICKERTON request I made - it has been great.

Finding b-in-law William Bickerton's birth in Oswestry gives another clue.  I couldn't find that on the IGI - it doesn't seem to agree with me. 
His sister Ann Galt nee Bickerton seems to be 14 years older and she gives Ellesmere as place of birth - about 1811.

Is this a BIG FAMILY  to look for?

Did she marry in Ellesmere about 1823ish - or had the family moved to Oswestry and she married there?  It seems reasonable.

It always amazes me how much and how far people moved around in those times.

Joy
Title: Re: 1841 Birkenhead census lookup please
Post by: randh on Friday 12 January 07 09:32 GMT (UK)
Oswestry and Ellesmere are in the county of Shropshire a few miles from each other.
Regards, randh
Title: Re: 1841 Birkenhead census lookup please
Post by: fairlane on Friday 12 January 07 20:54 GMT (UK)
There is a marriage on IGI (extract from parish register).

James Galt to Ann Bickerton on 05 Sept 1836 at St Peter, Church Street, Liverpool.

This may be of interest.

Fairlane
Title: Re: 1841 Birkenhead census lookup please
Post by: penshurst on Monday 13 April 09 22:45 BST (UK)
 :)

   Thanks for that information.
   I will follow it up.
Title: Re: 1841 Birkenhead census lookup please
Post by: -jajo- on Wednesday 14 October 09 20:29 BST (UK)
Hi, I just came accross this while trying to work out where 'Elbamett' was. How are you related to Ann Bickerton and James Galt? They are my Great x4 Grandparents, but the Scotishness of James is proving something of a problem to my research.
Title: Re: 1841 Birkenhead census lookup please
Post by: penshurst on Wednesday 14 October 09 21:36 BST (UK)
Well, it's a bit of a surprise hearing from a GALT connection -  this is a first - it's been a few years since I've had anything to do with any sort of research for the GALT line - everything came to dead ends.

On the 1841 census there is son William 22 unmarried and a joiner.  He went to Australia - how or why I don't really know as yet, and that is my gg.g/father.

I would love to hear your story and exchange the story of the GALT family to the present day - or as much as we know.

Joy
Title: Re: 1841 Birkenhead census lookup please
Post by: -jajo- on Thursday 15 October 09 00:41 BST (UK)
Hi thanks for the lighting quick response :)

My Knowledge of the Galt family is restricted to the family started by James Galt (b. Scotland, c1807) and Ann Bickerton  (b. Shropshire, c1810) mentioned in this post. As you already know from the posts on here they were married in Liverpool on 5th Sept 1836 and as far as I can tell they had 8 children.

The first one I know of is Walter Galt (b. 1834) who after 1861 I have lost track off, but was training to be a joiner.

The next was Sarah Galt (b. 1837) she is my direct ancestor, who I will come back to in a min.

Then they had William Galt (b. Dec 1838) I have traced him to the 1861 census as well and then he moved out and I have lost him at the moment.

Then unfortunately the couple had three children died one after another as infants James Galt (1840–1843), Ann Galt (1841-1841) Elizabeth Galt (1842–1842).

After that they had a child who lived past infancy. However Emma Galt (b. Sept 1844) only lived to  21 and died in 1866.

Their final child was called James Bickerton Galt (b. June 1848). He seems to have lived a long life and married Annie Parry (1847–1896 ) on 1st July 1875. They had at least 2 children, though I am almost certain they had more I have not got access to the census at the moment, so I cannot check.

Returning to Sarah (my ancestor) she married a Scottish man called Robert Rae Bell (1837–1895) in 1861. CheshireBMD.org.uk lists it as a civil wedding so I would assume that means Robert was a member of the Kirk and did not want to marry in the established English church. Robert had a rather varied career ranging from a Ships Steward to a Dealer in Earthenware. Sarah lived to a very old age of at least 73, as she is found living with her daughter Agnes in the 1911 census.

They had 5 children William Henry (b. 1867) Mary (b. 1869) Maggie (1871–1958) Agnes Bickerton (b. 1875)  and Robert James (b. 1877). Of those I know that Maggie (my ancestor) Agnes Bickerton and Robert James were married.

Robert James married Alice Letitia Williams (b. 1879) on 22 Sep 1907. Robert was a plumber, though on the 1911 census he is listed as 'Attendant Showroom (Boro Council)'. They had two children Thomas Eric Bell and William James Bell (b. 1907) who appear to be twins.

Agnes Bickerton married a shop assistant called Frank Edward Glover (b. 1871) in a civil wedding in 1903. They had one child that I know off called Edward Bickerton Glover (b. 1907)

Maggie married into the part of my family tree I have the most information on. She married Thomas Wilkinson Catherock Daintree (1866–1954) in 1898. Thomas was a toll collector on the ferry that links Liverpool, Wales and The Wirral. They had three Children Agnes Sarah Daintree (1899-1918 ),  Robert James Catherock Daintree (1901–1986),  Edward Noel Catherock Daintree (1902–1931).

Both Robert and Edward married and had children. In Edward's case he had only one child I know off and that was my grandmother, if you would like I can PM you the rest of my more recent family history. (I would have PM'ed this, but this forum has an annoying rule that I need 3 posts to use the PM function).

I make fairly regular trips to the National Library of Wales so I will have a look at these records some more when I next visit.
Title: Re: 1841 Birkenhead census lookup please
Post by: granny85 on Saturday 19 March 16 12:32 GMT (UK)
I have the original Marriage Certificate of Robert Rae Bell and Sarah Galt ( 29 May 1861)!!!They were married in St Andrew's Presbyterian Church, Conway St, Birkenhead.

Having read your post, I now realise why I have it!

Agnes Bickerton married a Glover, and my late Father's mum (my Granny) was a Glover (Frances Ethel) who married my Grandad, Frederick Earnest Everett. Their son, Lester hearn, was my Dad. He died in 2008, aged 95.