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Hi all.....
Please can anyone help with locating this family ...
Sarah Elizabeth Collins b Wavendon or Woburn Sands 1852
Parents Josiah Collins b @ 1830
Sarah Elizabeth Collins ...age unknown
Thank you
Tazzie
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There is this family
1861
Wavendon Woburn Sands
Joseph Collins 29 Groom Wavendon Bucks
Sarah Elizabeth 27 Lacemaker Berks Woburn
Sarah Elizabeth 8
Elizabeth 6
John 4
children b. Woburn sands
RG9 872 127 8
Suz
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Hi Suz....
Many thanks for that at such a late hour.
They are my grt grt grt grandparents and only got a lead on them today so great .Thanks again.
Found their Marriage now 1851 Josiah Jackson Collins to
Sarah Elizabeth Fossey.
Tazzie
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Think I have Josiah in 1841, if you require it?
Suz
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Oh ...please Suz.
Up until 2.30 today all I had was the name of Albert Green for my grandad's dad. He died when grandad was 3 killed by a train at Harrow station he was only 24. Newfy found them in 1901/89 as Millards as Alberts mum was also widowed young and remarried.
Today has been a journey for me . I also found the newspaper article on his death and showed my mum...a few tears all round but it was good.
If it is no trouble thanks
Tazzie
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its brilliant when you have a breakthrough like that-
Looks like Josiah was entered as Josiah 1841, Joseph 1851/61, and Josiah after that -looks like he remarried in later census?
1841 Hogsly End Wavendon
John Collins 32 Ag lab
Elizabeth 39
Noah 12
Josiah 10
James 7
John 5
HO107/59/15 9 13
and look where he was (as Joseph) in 1851!
Long End Husborne Crawley beds
Sarah Fossey head U 17 lacemaker Beds Woburn
Elizabeth Fossey sister U 14 Beds Crawley
Henrietta Fossey sister 12 beds Crawley
Joseph Collins visitor U 20 Bucks Wavendon
HO107 1755 73 33
If you want any more census -will be online for quite a while yet
Suz
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Suz ....they dont come any better than that do they...1851!
After appearing as Joseph in 1861 I rechecked my Bucks disc but well he was in Bedfordshire then.
Great find in 1841 he helped by staying put then.
Heh thats me all done for tonight ...our 3 year old will be up at @6 no doubt so I will say goodnight and many thanks.
Best wishes
Tazzie
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Something for you to wake up to!!!
looks like Henrietta Fossey(1851) was really Harriett.
There is no birth reg for Henrietta-but there is one for Harriett
Free BMD
Dec 1839 Woburn
Harriett Fossey
6 114
1841
Husborn Crawley Beds
Address: Town
Maria Fossey 25 lace maker
Sarah 5
Elizabeth 4
Harriett 2
Ann Virgin 20
all b county
HO107/5/20 6 6
and what about this!!!!
1871
Woburn Sands
Maria Fossey Head W 57 Nurse Beds Woburn
Sarah Collins Granddaughter U 19 Straw Bonnet Sewer Bucks Wavendon
Elizabeth Collins Granddaughter U 16 Servant Bucks Wavendon
Mary Collins Granddaughter 2 Bucks Wavendon
RG10 1557 13 19
Suz
Suz
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Morning Suz....
Thank you for that . Well they must have know I would come looking for them...all the right names altogether the puzzle fits nicely now.
This is Mums side so she will have a new branch on her tree before her birthday (feb 6).
I live in Milton Keynes so I will be able to follow the PR's for them all now and I will send for Albert birth cert as he gives his father as John Green...but I think it is John Miller/Millard..so we will see.
Hope you slept well and thanks
Tazzie ;D
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Hi Tazzie
I hope you are ready for this Barnard Page of Husborne Crawley married a Collins from Wavendon.
Barnard's daughter Emma (1830's) married Job Sibley of H.C. whose son Alfred William Sibley born 1864 is my grand-father. No I am not that OLD. ;D
We went to Wavendon on Thursday and a resident told me that Hog Sty End was
previously known as Woburn Sands but in the village of Wavendon.
Are you off the floor yet.
I have all of H.C. Crawley baps so if I can help look any up let me know.
Am going out for a few hours hopefully you may find your Collins are another line in
the Village and therefore dis-own me. LOL.
Be in touch.
Sandy
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Sandy.....wow....
Now it looks as though I am related to you......hubby had some connection as well if I remember ( My Palmers/Hales).
We are off to Wavendon now only 5 mins from here then can do Woburns Sands and Husborne Crawley as well.
What a weekend this has been...I have been staring at a brick wall for 4 years on this and it's all falling into place.
Have seen Bernard's wedding to Ann 1823 Aylesbury. They have a son on IGI Joseph b Wavendon.
So far I have Joseph/Josiah ..as he changes his name , Sarah Elizabeth dies age 37 in 1870 Q2 ,he remarries Q4 1870 to Mary Ann Taylor in Woburn..1881 3 more children.
Sarah Elizabeth marries John Green who dies early in 1876 she live with Jon Miller/Millard in 1881 ...has my great grandad Albert in 1886 ( father John Green on wedding cert). She marries John Millard in 1887. Only got Millard name yesterday.
Bouncing off walls/ceilings and floors ;D
Off now camera and kiddies in the car ....report back later.
Tazzie
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Hi Tazzie
Glad you have left the floor. LOL.
Have seen Bernard's wedding to Ann 1823 Aylesbury. They have a son on IGI Joseph b Wavendon.
Not sure about that as I have the wedding thought it was at Wavendon.
Maybe you can look for me to make sure please.
Send details in P.M.
Sandy
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Hi Tazzie
I can see that John Fossey and Maria Smith had Banns read in H. C.
Will send in a P.M. more details.
Sandy
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Hi again Tazzie
I have also found the 2 children noted as being in Husborne Crawley on the 1851
Elizabeth and Harriet's baptisms.
Following in a P.M.
Also there was another child called Harriet Fossey in the village one year younger
maybe why Henerietta is noted in the 1851 as such.
Sandy
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Hi Tazzie
Thanks for P.M.
It seems that John died in 1840 hence no more children.
My family were in and around Husborne Crawley, Aspley Guise, Eversholt, Ridgmont,
and Woburn/Woburn Sands.
All beautiful places although the M1 runs close to Crawley.
I just looked in my records of the Duke of Bedford to see if the family were
contracted to him but as John dies so early obviously not.
Sandy
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Hi again.....
Maybe John wasn't at the Abbey but I found one who was...
RG11/1638 F 77 P 3 Woburn Abbey
Sarah Fossey serv w 56 Aspley guise lower floor woman domestic
Tazzie
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Parents of Joseph /Josiah Jackson Collins are listed as
John & Elizabeth in 1841. Age of John is 32 so I have found a baptism
1808 16 Jan Wavenden which gives his parents as John Collins and Elizabeth ....there is a marriage in Woburn of John Collins & Elizabeth GREEN....1794...
.. back full circle to my Albert Green.
Tazzie
gone for a lie down and a coffee....
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Hi Tazzie
I think you will need more than that lay down and coffee as it seems you may come into my line again. ;D
From your P.M.
Also John Fossey died 1840 age 28 so is he the 1812 baptism son of William Fossey and Elizabeth Smart?
If so Alexander Smart and Ann Lord's daughter Ann married William Sibley in 1812.
Their son William Sibley married Caroline Emerton in 1836.
And their son Job Sibley married Emma Page.
Emma Page is the daughter of Barnard who married Ann Collins.
Back to the beginning for me too.
Need some tablets my head hurts.
Taking an early night.
Sandy
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Hi Sandy.....
So it would seem, are these the correct children
Mary 1773
James 1775
Alexander 1777
John 1781
Ann 1787
Elizabeth 1790
William 1792 died 1795
All children of Alexander Smart & Ann Lord.
We are crossing over two ways now.
Tazzie
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Hi Tazzie
All the above information seems to be correct.
All children of Alexander Smart & Ann Lord. No others between the years.
Sandy
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Again Many thanks Sandy...just showed some bits to mum and she is still getting confused so putting this lot on a seperate tree for her.
Suz....great when things go this well... ;D
Tazzie
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Hi Tazzie
Didn't think you would dis-own me that quick. ;D
Never mind obviously you feel you have all that you need.
Must of been when I said nice to have a rellie here and then took it off in case
the feeling wasn't mutal. ;D
Cheers Sandy
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Sandy....No No No.... I haven't disowned you though hubby is now worried as there is the connection to you on his side now ;D
No this has gone on in leaps and bounds since my great newspaper find on Saturday . All we knew about Albert were the details on his wedding cert. Now I know a heck of a lot more. Mum came over today and I showed her it all from the weekend she was amazed and a little overwhelmed ,she has wondered for so long and I have looked for her without any luck.
Haven't ended this one yet just on pause.I am desperate to get to the library in CMK and scrabble around the book's for more info and when I do I pass it on after all isn't that what rellies do ;)
The line I need to follow is Sarah Elizabeth Collins as it's his mum ..as for dad I assume it's John Millard...and there is another Millard Collins marriages.....cant find it now :-\ so more info to come. Going to try the local reg' office as well may have some luck there and quicker.
So have a good evening cousin ....ok distant granted..
will speak soon
Tazzie :)
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Hello Tassie and Suzard, RE COLLINS FAMILY LINE.
I have just found your entries and have to tell you that I am family from NOAH COLLINS, who is listed as brother to Josiah. Noah left England for Australia in 1848, age 19yrs.
I have been going through Census info to find out where the rest of the family are, and if they are still in England.
This is when I found all your chat from way back in 2007.
Hope to hear from you,
WoburnSands.
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Hello
welcome to Rootschat.
Josiah & Sarah are my 3x great grand parents. I will have to look out the info that I have as I have not done alot of work on the tree for a while so I will post some bits for you.
Any questions let me know and I will help if poss. I still think it was amazing to make the decision to leave this sleepy little corner and head off to the other side of the world.Now its 24 hours on a plane but back then...
Its cousin Sandy who also has Collins connnections to the family so plenty of interest. Let me know what you need and I will get straight back.
Tazzie
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Welcome to the Australian side of the Collins family.
I can tell you that the strength and love that Noah had for his family was unbelievable.
He had hardship but made a good life for all his children and his wives (3). I will organise myself with details and then you can ask me whatever questions you wish. I am still going off to the State Archives obtaining further information as I have only been doing this side of the family for a short time.
My Father died in 2005 age 92, he also was the Dearest most loving Father anyone could wish for. All the Collins men were and are a total delight with an excellent sense of humour. I have only found a photo of Noah and I will send this off to you when I work out how I do that. Noah was my GGG Grandfather also that makes us on the same line.
I am so excited to have an anwer back as I thought that after 2007 you might not be still doing your family history. I had hopes that Sandy might see the listing as I noted Sandy had been online that very day. I will keep everything a surprise for you and start you off on a very exciting voyage from Noah coming from Hogstyend to Sunny Australian and the Bush country where he was a farmer working the land. The voyage took many months lof difficult sailing, Woburn Sands.
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Hello Tazzie,
Thanks for your reply. I did send another reply back but I think I have lost it somewhere in cyberland. I am new to this so please excuse me if I am slow. Can you please tell me how to send a photo to you?
Some information for you.
Noah m Maria Hill 1850. Maria Hll/Cousins came out on the same ship as Noah, I cannot find her at Woburn Sands/Hogsty End. I feel like the name Cousins might be her Mother's name.
John and Elizabeth gave Josiah the name of Joshiah Jackson after Ellizabeth's maiden name.
Maria and Noah had 5 children, Elizabeth, 1850,Sarah Maria 1852,John Reuben 1855-my Father's line, Mary J 1856, Amey 1858 MARIA DIED 1860.
Noah M Catherine McNabb 1862 - 3 children, Catherine 1852(!) Noah was married to Maria at this time. Catherine C 1862, Emily Lettish, 1864. I have ran out of room. Catherine born in 1852 died. WE have another wife in Agnes 1880, another 5 children. Noah was helping build Australia and that is what was expected of all the people who arrived here.
Noah owned an Inn called The Woodstock Inn, it was situated on a Toll Rd. where they had lots of drama and excitement with bushrangers and passing tradesmen. It was a very busy time as The Gold Rush was on and everybody was wanting to make their fortune.
Cheers WoburnSands.
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Hello Seahall,
I have notified Tazzie of my connection to the Collins family and have since noticed that you have connection to the Hall family also.
I have been doing family Hall up in Yorkshire, Keightly, by any chance are you part of that family also?
Tazzie mentioned that you also have connections to the Collins family. I am new to this and have been reading through some of the listings. Takes a little time to become acquainted with the workings. I amnot sure whether I have to reply via this method or if there is another method of connecting via email. I fully understand the reasons for privacy.
Hope to hear from you, WoburnSands.
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Hi Tazzie and other Collins descendants...
I'm looking into John Collins from the 1841 Census (married to Elizabeth Collins, 39, and had four sons, Noah, 12, Josiah, 10, James, 7 and John, 5.), and I believe he was one of three rioters convicted at the Aylesbury Assizes after the Swing Riots of 1831.
He continues appearing in the Census in Wavendon until 1871, by which time his address is listed as Hardwick Cottage, in modern day Woburn Sands A death of a John Collins is recorded in the Newport Pagnell area in 1879. ‘Thomas’ is used as a forename in some records.
Have you come across this event before?
Paul
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Hi Tazzie-Cuz.
Now I have done my DNA 2 years ago the Page-Sibley families have grown obviously.
Ann Collins that married Barnard seems to have come from up North.
I am amazed by how many folk on Anc* have in-correct info on many lines, as they do with my Fathers lineage.
I was at Milton Keynes a few months ago and took copies on their new machines that lets you take images from micro-fiche so have been able to expand the family. I had to spend a whole day there.
Hope you are all well.
Sandy
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Hello Sandy cuz....wow been a while.
I haven't been doing a lot on my lines for a while. We got swallowed up on a War Memorial project for our local area in Milton Keynes. It's been an amazing little off shoot that has made us smile and shed a tear.
Looks like ill have to catch back up and start up with the Collins again. I haven't ventured along to DNA route yet......maybe worth it.....which one did you use?
Hope you are all well. :)
My hours at school keep me busy but all good here. Eldest about to start 2nd year at Uni in Northampton. Youngest GCSE this coming year. Scarcely they've grown so quick.
Best wishes to you.
Tazzie
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Morning Cuz. :)
Wonderful work on your war memorial project. It is so important for them to be remembered. x
I used Anc* it even brought up a few Rootchatters lol. Look out for the special offers at £59.00 if you are going to do it.
Excellent for proving your relations, proved my father was who I had always believed him to be although my family said different. LOL.
Good to see the children are doing so well.
It is mine and Hubby's Golden Wedding Anniversary on Friday so a stressful week. LOL.
I got a special certificate from the GRO for £35 it is really worth the money.
Anyway good to see life is treating you well.
Take Care
Sandy
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Hi Sandy
Golden Wedding how fantastic.......congratulations to you both.
Will look into the Ancestry kit. Thanks
Tazzie