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Title: George Branscombe
Post by: Kate NZ on Friday 09 February 07 20:19 GMT (UK)
My 4x grandfather was George Branscombe he was born c 1778 Devon he married in Hastings in 1808 Mary Hutchinson  have only found 2 daughters Georgina 1812 Mary 1809 it appears by 1816 the family were recieving poor relief as George was ill. Is there any way I can find out when George died as it seems Mary went on to have at least one more child named Samuel  Branscombe but his father was a Samuel Stace.this was in 1818 any help on this family would be great Further to this Samuel Stace was b 1791 Sussex and died 1866 Marine Parade Sussex spouse Mary Hutchinson???? When Mary died in the workhouse Ore in 1864 it states she was the widow of George branscombe so I am getting a little confused Maybe some one can help  :(
    Thanks KateNZ ???
Title: Re: George Branscombe
Post by: sillgen on Saturday 10 February 07 17:31 GMT (UK)
If you do not get a reply from someone with access to the parish register your best bet may be to get the film from your nearest LDS centre and search it there for burials.  They are worldwide so with luck there will be one fairly near you.  They are listed on www.familysearch.org
Is there anyone covering that are on the Sussex Online Parish Clerks site?
Where is the Marine Parade you are talking about?   Still in the Hastings area?  Have you found them on the census?
Andrea
Title: Re: George Branscombe
Post by: sillgen on Saturday 10 February 07 17:56 GMT (UK)
I am getting confused too!   The only Samuel Stace I can find in census records born c 1791 in Sussex is married to a Rebecca in all the census years.  How do you know he was the father of Mary's child?   Is it from poor relief records?
I cannot find any census entries that fit Mary other than one in 1841 Hastings St Clements for Mary Branscomb 55 laundress with  Mary age 30 and a child William 8.   Relationships are not given in 1841 so he could be the younger Mary's son.  Am I on the right track here?
In 1851 she has a grandson Fred Samuel Morphy with her.  In 1861, a lodger.
Andrea
Title: Re: George Branscombe
Post by: Kate NZ on Saturday 10 February 07 19:53 GMT (UK)
Thanks Andrea when Samuel Henry branscombe was born in 1818 mother Mary Branscombe father by admission Samuel Stace.A researcher from the line of Samuel b 1818 sent me the info the Marine Parade was St Mary in the Castle.I will get back to the researcher for some more definite answers.In the 1841 census that is Mary and her daughter Mary the William I am not sure if he is the daughters son or the mothers.in 1847 Mary {Dau} m Thomas Morfee.I will try the online parish clerk and see what I can find thank you for your help    Regards KateNZ :)
Title: Re: George Branscombe
Post by: sillgen on Saturday 10 February 07 20:21 GMT (UK)
I think St Mary in the Castle is an area of Hastings and I have just found Marine Parade on a map - on the sea front as you would expect!
Andrea
Title: Re: George Branscombe
Post by: forester on Saturday 10 February 07 22:05 GMT (UK)
Kate,

If you go to the Sussex OPC page for Hastings there is a link that will take you to 1066 Genealogy, which is Chris's website. A lot of the burial registers are there.

 I have looked through them quickly from about 1803 to the 1850's, but couldn't see an entry for George. The only Branscombe I could find was Frederick, of St Mary-in-the-Castle, buried at All Saints on 3rd April 1838, age 18. I did notice a few Hutchinson and Stace burials in passing.

Regards,
Phil
Title: Re: George Branscombe
Post by: Kate NZ on Saturday 10 February 07 22:22 GMT (UK)
Thanks Phil just came of that site couldnt find George but found some other interesting things
Cheers KateNZ ;D
Title: Re: George Branscombe
Post by: forester on Saturday 10 February 07 22:38 GMT (UK)
Hello again Kate,

It made my eyes ache going through that lot. :'(

Have you had a look at A2A? I just typed in Branscombe and searched the ESRO. It came up with two entries for Mary; PAR367/32/3/129 and 130.

The interesting thing is that it says that Mary is pregnant, but the date is 22 July 1820, which is well after the supposed birth of Samuel. Could be a second one I suppose. It also fits with the death of Frederick in 1838.

Phil
Title: Re: George Branscombe
Post by: Kate NZ on Saturday 10 February 07 23:13 GMT (UK)
Sorry about the eyes aching LOL my head aches with it but thanks for that I will try the archives.I have a death for Frederick and yea it fits I also have one for a Walter died aged 8months 1834.Looks like my Mary could have been a busy lady still with all the great help I get here I may eventually solve it
So thank you very much for that
Cheers kateNZ :-*
Title: Re: George Branscombe
Post by: forester on Saturday 10 February 07 23:37 GMT (UK)
My last offering of the day.

There are only three Branscombe marriages on the Sussex Marriage Index, George's in 1808, Georgina's in 1835 and this one, also in 1835;

Hastings All Saints
12 Jan 1835
Hanna Stace Branscombe
John Smith
(no other details)

Food for thought.  ;D

Phil

Title: Re: George Branscombe
Post by: Kate NZ on Sunday 11 February 07 00:49 GMT (UK)
Many thanks Phil I have sent to East Sussex re the archives you told me about.I did find that marriage for Hannah Stace Branscombe the plot thickens Georgina was my 3x grandmother thanks for your time Cheers KateNZ ;D 8)
Title: Re: George Branscombe
Post by: forester on Sunday 11 February 07 18:14 GMT (UK)
KateNZ

I couldn't resist another look at A2A, this time for Samuel Stace at the ESRO

Parish of Hastings St Clements
Bastardy Order, 22 Jun 1820
PAR 367/34/5/36

I assume this one refers to Hannah.

Looks like it was a busy day for Samuel and Mary.
I also think that George was still alive, just moved on, or at sea, as Mary is never referred to as a widow.

Phil
Title: Re: George Branscombe
Post by: Kate NZ on Sunday 11 February 07 18:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Phil good to hear from you again yesterday I spent a bit of time on A2A and found Samuel Stace bastardy orders and Marys removal orders as it says she had the child in her own apartments 1815 so my guess is it is Hannah as she would fit the time frame.Still need to do a lot of checking on others not sure how many she did have.Yes I see it never says widow apparently on her death cert it states widow but that wasnt till1864.So many thanks to you you steered me in the right direction  ;D ;D ;D


Cheers KateNZ
Title: Re: George Branscombe
Post by: forester on Sunday 11 February 07 18:51 GMT (UK)
Keep Digging and Good Luck.

Phil  :)
Title: Re: George Branscombe
Post by: Kate NZ on Sunday 11 February 07 19:19 GMT (UK)
Thanks Phil I will just been on a pay to view site nothing they havent transcribed Hastings LOL never mind thats half the challange
Cheers and thanks again KateNZ ;D
Title: Re: George Branscombe
Post by: Squiff on Monday 23 July 18 11:49 BST (UK)
Hello Kate,
I also am in NZ and have a Mary Branscom (no 'be' ending) who married my Thomas Morfee in Hastings when first Elizabeth Morfee died.  ie She was married so that she could look after the children when Thomas was doing his 'mariner' thing.
He married her in the 4th qtr 1847.
Residence at time of marriage St Mary Magdalene. Father George Branscom mariner.
Don't know if this is one of yours.
Diane NZ
Title: Re: George Branscombe
Post by: sillgen on Monday 13 August 18 08:14 BST (UK)
Hi Squiff and welcome to Rootschat,
Kate has not been on for some years now.  If she has not changed her email address she should have got a notification of your query.   Once you have a couple of posts you can use our personal message system to try to contact her.  Click on the letter icon under the user name.  Reply to this and it should then work.