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Title: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Halps on Saturday 10 February 07 11:45 GMT (UK): I am trying to find the parents of Patrick Halpin who I believe was born in Westmeath in about 1842. He also has a brother called John born approx. 1847 and possibly another brother called Peter born approx. 1849. Patrick came to Lancashire around 1866/67 and on his marriage certificate his father is shown as Patrick Halpin (deceased).

I have found a Patrick Halpin on the Griffiths Valuation for Westmeath in the parish of Clonarney.

Can anyone give me any help or advice as to how I can find Patrick's parents?

Many thanks,
Pam
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: peggyanne on Wednesday 20 June 07 15:03 BST (UK): The Halpin name was originally Halfpenny and they changed it to Halpin,so you may have luck under that name,Peggyanne
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Sunday 19 February 17 14:15 GMT (UK): I am looking for Patrick Halpin, father of Thomas J. Halpin born 26 November 1889 in Castlepollard, County Westmeath, Ireland. His brother, The Rev. William J. Halpin of Meath Diocese brought both Thomas and Catherine to Ellis Island aboard the Celtic in 1910.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 19 February 17 16:59 GMT (UK): Welcome to RootsChat Kaligirl
Where did you get the date and place of birth for Thomas, I don't see him in the civil Registration.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jix/

Also who is Catherine, his mother or sister?
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: dathai on Sunday 19 February 17 18:43 GMT (UK): is this him
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XJR4-GQN

siblings if right
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jj3/
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: dathai on Sunday 19 February 17 18:54 GMT (UK): Which looks like this family
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Fore_West/Lakill_or_Moortown/1776972/

Annie born 1876 Moortown mother Biddy Heslin
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1876/03042/2115461.pdf
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: dathai on Sunday 19 February 17 18:59 GMT (UK): 1911 Bridget a widow
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Fore_West/Lakill_and_Moortown/879781/
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: dathai on Sunday 19 February 17 19:05 GMT (UK): Christopher registered in Granard from Castletown
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02951/2081187.pdf
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: dathai on Sunday 19 February 17 19:43 GMT (UK): A Rev William Joseph Halpin born 1852 in Meath also in Iowa
last on end of article
http://www.celticcousins.net/irishiniowa/meathbios.htm
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: dathai on Sunday 19 February 17 19:56 GMT (UK): Following on from the above article re the Rev Thomas J Halpin brother of William J Halpin appears to have died in Nice 1873 according to Will index, letters of administration granted to his father Christopher of Mooretown
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014890/005014890_00510.pdf
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: dathai on Sunday 19 February 17 20:08 GMT (UK): Christopher Halpin died 1890 age 74 Letters of Admin to son Christopher
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014904/005014904_00170.pdf

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Fore_West/Lakill_or_Moortown/1776971/

marriage 1893
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10572/5851572.pdf
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Sunday 19 February 17 21:33 GMT (UK): Wow!
Thank you dathal.
I will check out your suggestions. You have the correct Thomas.
My grandmother, Leota Walker Halpin, married Thomas and traced her side back to 600s.
I'm hoping to do the same on the Halpin side.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Sunday 19 February 17 22:14 GMT (UK): Thank you dathai,

Your sources were perfect. Any chance I may impose further and ask how to find Patrick and Bridget's parents? I too have information on Fr. Halpin but am unable to enter it into FamilySearch without parents' names.

I hope one day to visit the Emerald Isle.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: dathai on Monday 20 February 17 11:27 GMT (UK): Catherine also registered in Granard 1885 born Carlanstown WMeath
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02656/1979334.pdf

possibly Kate Halpin age 17 here
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Kinturk/Townparks___Castlepollard/1777338/
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: dathai on Monday 20 February 17 13:51 GMT (UK): appears to be Annie's death in Manhattan 1948 age is off but looks like right parents
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WYH-GTW
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: dathai on Monday 20 February 17 15:23 GMT (UK): shot in the dark might be worth researching this man who seems to have married twice
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:249K-V3G

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XJV9-M9Z
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: dathai on Monday 20 February 17 19:17 GMT (UK): Thomas and his sister Kate or Catherine first emmigrated in 1907 to New York
Thomas gave his age as 24 born circa 1883
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JX2R-26T

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JX2R-26Y

on the 1901 census they say Thomas is 18 and younger brother William is 16
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Fore_West/Lakill_or_Moortown/1776972/

yet William was born in Carlanstown on 1st Feb 1883
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02747/2009357.pdf

sister Ellen was born 1st May 1888 but was not registered till 6 months later in October
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1888/02494/1925104.pdf

also found this marriage which may help with your searches
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG8V-RXR

also found a baptism on the Collinstown reel for a Thomas Halpin 20th May 1842 son of Christy Halpin and Catherine Donnelly
http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0918
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Pennines on Monday 20 February 17 19:39 GMT (UK): The first posting on this thread regarding a Patrick Halpin b about 1842 - who moved to Lancashire and had a father Patrick, seems to have been overshadowed by the second query about a family with the same surname who moved to USA (as far as I can tell).

So returning to the original query -- there is a Patrick Halpin baptised on 13 March 1842, but in Drumcanrath, County Meath.
Father Patrick Halpin, mother Bridget Shekey. (Sponsors Michael and Mary Shekey)

In addition;
Peter Halpin, baptised 17 Jul 1848 also in Drumconrath, County Meath. Father Patrick - mother Bridget Sheeky. (One of the Sponsors - Catherine Sheeky).

I cannot see a baptism for a John at the correct time though.
My Westmeath ancestors moved to Westmeath from County Meath -- so this family MAY have done the same thing and may just be worth considering.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Tuesday 21 February 17 12:28 GMT (UK): My apologies Pennines,
I did not intend to take over the forum, but since the last post was 2007, I assumed the question was answered. I will send a note to Halps to alert them to your response.

I want to thank dathai for the assistance. I found an Ellis Island document with Fr. William, Thomas and Catherine on the Celtic in 1910 which I assumed was their first trip, but it noted their address as Algona, IA. (Yes this branch of the family immigrated to the US). Since dathai found a record with Bridget as head of household in 1911, I'm guessing they went home for Patrick's funeral. (The only Patrick I found before died in Delvin in 1906, so back to the drawing board.)

I'm just starting to explore the Christopher Halpin information dathai posted and would be grateful for any information re: Bridget Heslin's lineage.

Again, your help is invaluable. I can't thank you enough.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Pennines on Tuesday 21 February 17 18:07 GMT (UK): kaligirl --- I hadn't realised the original post was 2007!!

I only latched onto the thread because of the mention of Westmeath and because it was newish --entirely due to your recent posts. However I read the messages from the start and thought the first one was being overlooked.

No wonder - it was almost 10 years old!
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Wednesday 22 February 17 11:50 GMT (UK): It appears some of my relatives moved from Meath to Westmeath as well.
:)

I've been able to enter both Patrick and his brother Rev. Wm. into my tree as well as the Christophers. It appears they are son and grandson of Patrick, although I have not connected the priest who died in France.

I'm fascinated with the naming of sons and daughters after parents, which makes the tracing a little difficult, but am learning more about the location of cities and towns.

I will check some other posts re: Bridget Heslin, but wanted to thank you for all your assistance.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Thursday 23 February 17 10:24 GMT (UK): I have attached the head stone of my grandfather Thomas, but as of yet can find no record of his birth.

Dathai's resources have been invaluable in verifying the births of his siblings and I am hopeful I am just overlooking something.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated .

Kaligirl
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 23 February 17 10:35 GMT (UK): Have just posted a reply to your other Halpin post on an old thread.

Is this Thomas with parents Patrick and Bridget? if so, in 1901 his age given as 18 which means born c1883 not 1889. Ages in census can be wrong but this might be why you haven't found a birth registration for him yet.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Fore_West/Lakill_or_Moortown/1776972

Here's an 1883 birth which might be his- parents Patrick & Bridget-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02734/2005247.pdf
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Thursday 23 February 17 10:58 GMT (UK): Aghadowey,

I hope our posts don't cross in the ether, but this is my interpretation of Patrick's family thus far.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Thursday 23 February 17 11:34 GMT (UK): I believe, thanks to Aghadowey, I have found Patrick Halpin's death, but I am still @ a loss for finding Thomas Halpin (my grandfather)'s birth.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 23 February 17 12:10 GMT (UK): Christopher's birth (1878) is in Granard district-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02951/2081187.pdf

William (1883) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02747/2009357.pdf

Catherine (1885) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02656/1979334.pdf

Pat (1886) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02590/1957033.pdf

Ellen (1888) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1888/02494/1925104.pdf

A Thomas Heslin born 1888- could he be related?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1888/02514/1931945.pdf

I would be inclined to check church records to see if there's a baptism for Thomas and any other siblings.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: dathai on Thursday 23 February 17 14:22 GMT (UK): Christopher Halpin married Mary Dermody in 1902
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1902/10284/5743124.pdf
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Kinturk/Green_Street/880176/
Mary died 1920
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1920/05129/4412139.pdf
and Christopher remarried to Bridget Fagan in 1925
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1925/09146/5307915.pdf
may have died 1959 in Gillardstown
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1959/04355/4128223.pdf
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: dathai on Thursday 23 February 17 14:39 GMT (UK): Ellen married Gerald Cooney in 1925
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Fore_West/Lakill_and_Moortown/879789/
Marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1925/09141/5305993.pdf
Gerald died 1941 with Ellen as informant no apparent sign of a death for Ellen
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1942/04684/4248696.pdf

1946 admistration of the estate of Gerald Cooney to Ellen Cooney £58.
search archives
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search-the-archives/
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: dathai on Thursday 23 February 17 15:04 GMT (UK): Patrick married Anne Mulvany 1919 Granard
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1919/09676/5509201.pdf

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Coolure/Kiltoom/881524/
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Thursday 23 February 17 17:05 GMT (UK): These are wonderful resources - thank you!

The only documentation I can find for Thomas is the 1901 census and two ship manifests.
Is it possible two Patrick Halpin/Bridget Heslin families could have lived in Westmeath?
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 23 February 17 23:03 GMT (UK): Have you been able to check church records for baptism of the Halpin children?
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Friday 24 February 17 11:46 GMT (UK): I have checked both the civil and church records of the Halpin children, but can find no baptism records as of yet.
Interestingly, I can find no church marriage for Bridget and Patrick either.
Still searching and thanks!
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 24 February 17 12:08 GMT (UK): Christopher's baptism 8 Aug.1878 (#232 in register)- hard to read but increasing contract helps-
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635094#page/24/mode/1up

Unfortunately online baptisms there stop 1881- http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0912
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Friday 24 February 17 12:35 GMT (UK): Really appreciate your assistance - I've been finding the same problem with earlier records. Looks like the focus has been Dublin, which makes sense...

The wonderful end result is I may be able to find current relatives :)
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Friday 24 February 17 16:46 GMT (UK): I thought I found him, but ended up with a nephew....

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02181/1825690.pdf
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: dathai on Saturday 25 February 17 15:26 GMT (UK): just confirmation that they were in U S since 1907 on 1915 census
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-892F-28Z?i=247&cc=2240483

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-892F-2W4J?mode=g&i=248&cc=2240483

Rev William 33 yrs circa 1882
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-892F-27FQ?mode=g&i=249&cc=2240483
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Sunday 26 February 17 18:37 GMT (UK): Thanks Dathai,

Pretty clear now they left following Patrick's death in 1906. Since Christopher was the elder son, and brother Rev. William was in the US, the 1907 date seems correct.
I also found Thomas' draft registration - age again points to birth in 1889...
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKCH-DWTX
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Tuesday 14 March 17 17:38 GMT (UK): FindMyPast is sponsoring a free search in honor of St. Patrick's day, so I was able to find a Thomas Halpin in the death records.
http://search.findmypast.com/record?id=ire%2fbmd%2fd%2f627068117

Still not sure this is my grandfather and having limited luck finding Patrick's family, although I did find information on his marriage to Bridget
http://search.findmypast.com/record?id=ire%2fprs%2fmar%2f1373700%2f1
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Chef Stef on Saturday 29 July 17 22:19 BST (UK): There is a pub currently in Fore, Co Westmeath run by Ita Halpin, The Seven Wonders Bar, Might be related?
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Seven-Wonders-Bar-Fore/775795392537793
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Saturday 09 September 17 12:16 BST (UK): Hello kaligirl,

I too could find no record of Thomas's birth.

He had eight siblings: Mary (born 29/03/1870), Bridget (born 01/03/1875), Anne (born 30/06/1876), Christoper (born 09/08/1878), William (born 01/02/1883 died 11/07/1911), Catherine (born 13/02/1885), Pat (born 25/08/1886) and Ellen (born 01/05/1888).

His parents were Patrick Halpin and Bridget Heslin. I could find no record of Patrick's birth or baptism. He died on 27/12/1905. Bridget was baptised on 02/04/1847 and died on 04/11/1929. They were married in Collinstown, Westmeath on 21/01/1869.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Saturday 09 September 17 13:16 BST (UK): Re: Patrick Halpin who died on 27/12/1905

He had seven siblings that I could find: Catherine (baptised 20/09/1839), Bridget (baptised 22/10/1844), William (baptised 11/03/1850), Anne (baptised 01/03/1852, died before 1856), Christopher (baptised 18/10/1853), Ann (baptised 20/02/1856) and Helena otherwise Ellen (baptised 29/06/1858).

His parents were Christopher Halpin and Catherine Donnelly. I could find no records of their births or baptisms. Christopher died on 16/04/1890 and Catherine on 06/05/1886. They were married on 18/09/1838.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Saturday 09 September 17 13:27 BST (UK): Re: Bridget Halpin (nee Heslin)who died on 04/11/1929

She had four siblings that I could find: James (baptised 01/08/1835), William (baptised 06/11/1837), Thomas (baptised 25-27/05/1840) and Mary (baptised 23/10/1849).

Her parents were Richard Heslin and Mary Halpen. I could find no records of Richard's birth or baptism. Mary was baptised on 09/07/1811. Richard died on 03/01/1867 and Mary died on 13/02/1892. They were married on 31/07/1834.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Saturday 09 September 17 13:44 BST (UK): Re: Mary Heslin (nee Halpen) who died on 13/02/1892.

My research at the moment is as follows.

She had two siblings that I could find: Peter (baptised 05/09/1809) and another unnamed child (baptised 21/09/1813).

Her parents were William Halpen and Bridget Daly. I could find no birth, baptism or death records for William. Bridget was baptised on 08/12/1781, I could not find a death record for her. They were married on 25/02/1802.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Saturday 09 September 17 13:52 BST (UK): Re: Bridget Halpen (nee Daly) who was baptised on 08/12/1781

My research at the moment is as follows.

She had two siblings that I could find: Nelly (baptised 07/04/1774) and Nancy (baptised on 16/06/1787).

Her parents were Michael Daly and Magy Fitzsimons. I could find no birth, baptism or death records for Michael. I could find no birth or baptism records for Magy, she died on 28/11/1789. I could not find their marriage record.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Saturday 09 September 17 16:00 BST (UK): Re: Patrick Halpin who died on 27/12/1905

Patrick is buried with his son William in old Saint Feichin's Cemetery, Fore, County Westmeath.

The inscription on their grave is almost eroded away and is difficult to read. This is what it appears to be:

Pray for the soul of Patick Halpin, Mooretown, died 27th December 1908 aged 68 and his son William died 6th July 1911 aged 25.

This monument is erected by his loving wife and children and his brother Rev. William, Algona

I know that that Patrick's date of the death on the grave and the date of death I have given previously don't match however his death certificate definitely states 27/12/1905. I put the difference down a mistake at the time the headstone was engraved or the effects of erosion.

The "68" in the inscription could be "58", difficult to say it is so worn away. Obviously the "25" doesn't match the official records. Ages in Ireland at the time were not important and it is not uncommon to find differences between what is given and what is recorded officially.

The grave is visible from the road on Google maps.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Saturday 16 September 17 17:00 BST (UK): Another headstone:

I was told the following about another headstone in the graveyard at the back of the parish church in Fore.

It reads Catherine Halpin, died 6/5/1880, aged 72, Christopher Halpin, died 16/4/1890, aged 74 - then Bridget, wife of Christopher, died 9/4/1906, aged 40. Then on the side is Christopher, died June 1971 and Mary Ellen, died February 1982. At the bottom it says erected by Rev. W. J. Halpin, Iowa, U.S.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Sunday 24 September 17 13:43 BST (UK): Re: Patrick Halpin who died on 27/12/1905 and William Halpin who died on 11/07/1911

I realised as I was going over some of my records that I have a photograph of Patrick and William's grave taken on 20/11/2015. It seems to be too large to attach here but if anyone wants a copy I can email it to them.

I also realised that William's date of death is given as 6th July 1911 on the headstone however the death certificate definitely states 11th July 1911.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Wednesday 11 October 17 23:27 BST (UK): I cannot thank you enough for all of your research. I am still employed at this time, so do not have the time I would like to invest in research. I will definitely come back and review your fabulous contribution. Thank you again!
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Tomas on Friday 13 October 17 21:15 BST (UK): I have relations married to halpins (halfpenny) she married keenan in clonscott in carrickedmond in longford - mary i think
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Tuesday 24 October 17 22:14 BST (UK): Feichin - thank you again for your wonderful research. I will use it to build the family tree and hopefully find my grandfather in the process.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Wednesday 25 October 17 23:39 BST (UK): kaligirl,

You are welcome.

It is an ongoing project and there are many loose ends of which your grandfather's date of birth is one. I too cannot find my grandfather's date of birth. Mentioned in this thread he was born around the same time and place as yours. I do have a baptism date for him which is probably correct but I have not verified it completely yet.

If I find any further information on the family I will come back to this thread and let you know.

All the best.

Feichin
Title: Headstone
Post by: Feichin on Sunday 06 January 19 14:18 GMT (UK): Quote from: Feichin on Saturday 16 September 17 17:00 BST (UK)
Another headstone:

I was told the following about another headstone in the graveyard at the back of the parish church in Fore.

It reads Catherine Halpin, died 6/5/1880, aged 72, Christopher Halpin, died 16/4/1890, aged 74 - then Bridget, wife of Christopher, died 9/4/1906, aged 40. Then on the side is Christopher, died June 1971 and Mary Ellen, died February 1982. At the bottom it says erected by Rev. W. J. Halpin, Iowa, U.S.

I was in Fore today and viewed what I believe to be the headstone referred to in the above post. Difficult to read due to weathering there was just sufficient there to single it out as the correct stone.

If anyone wants a picture of the headstone I can email it to them.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Sunday 06 January 19 14:27 GMT (UK): You sent me a photo and it is much appreciated
I am recently retired and hoping to conduct more research as I still have not found my grandfather's birth certificate.

Thanks again!
Kaligirl
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Sunday 06 January 19 15:50 GMT (UK): Kaligirl,

I sent you a photo of Patrick and William's grave.

I would be surprised if your grandfather's birth was registered given the amount of time I spent researching the family but I have been surprised before.

Regards,

Feichin
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Friday 19 April 19 15:46 BST (UK): I believe I may have found Catherine Donnelly's baptism record through Ancestry.
Does anyone have information on Maurice Donnelly or Ellenor Callahan?

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Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Saturday 20 April 19 11:58 BST (UK): I could find no evidence that the Catherine Donnelly who was baptised at Walshestown and Gaynestown on 30th March 1815 was the same Catherine Donnelly who was married at Collinstown and Fore on 18th September 1838 and who died at Lakill and Moortown on 6th May 1886.

What evidence did you find?
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Saturday 20 April 19 14:25 BST (UK): The information re: Catherine Donnelly is available on registers.nli.ie. subject to the National Library of Ireland terms of use. (In case anyone else can use it) Ancestry's citation is: National Library of Ireland; Dublin, Ireland; Microfilm Number: Microfilm 09486 / 13, Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
Published by: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc. 2016, Provo, UT, USA

May or may not be the correct Catherine Donnelly, but 1815 vs. 1816 and Mulligar, Meath 1800-1816 seemed like a close match. (Of course, I can find nothing on her parents and was a little surprised to see Maurice as an Irish name.)

Good to hear from you and I hope you are doing well!
:)
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Sinann on Saturday 20 April 19 14:38 BST (UK): https://registers.nli.ie/
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Saturday 20 April 19 14:58 BST (UK): I am aware that the information on the Catholic Parish Registers is available on the National Library of Ireland website. I have seen the entry. However there is nothing to show that the Catherine Donnelly from Walshestown and Gaynestown is the same Catherine Donnelly from Lakill and Moortown.

The registers are not precise or complete and ages meant very little at that time. Until it can be shown that the Catherine Donnelly from Walshestown and Gaynestown is the same Catherine Donnelly from Lakill and Moortown the record remains just a possibility, similar to other records from the period.

Maurice is a common first name in Ireland. Although hats off to whoever transcribed the name from that entry, I’m not sure that I could have.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Monday 29 April 19 16:21 BST (UK): I visited my sister over the weekend and she gave me my grandmother's scrapbook.
Gandma had Thomas Halpin's parents as I have, but then suggested Patrick's parents were Christopher and Kathrine Corrigan. She had Patrick's grandparents as Christopher and Mary Donnelly.
I'm guessing she confused the two last names (and maybe first names) because there appears to be pretty clear evidence Katherine Donnelly is a correct ancestor.
I started searching for a Mary Corrigan and found a Mary Catherine Corrogan baptized in Westmeath in 1780 (a year before Christopher's birth).

Name: Mary Corrogan
Birth Date: 1780
Baptism Date: 4 Dec 1780
Baptism Place: Castlepollard, Westmeath, Ireland
Parish Variants: Lickblea, Lickblea and Wheran, Rathgarraf, Wheran
Diocese: Meath
Father: Owen Corrogan
Mother: MaryConnel

I can (as of yet) find no evidence of a marriage, but she may be related to this line of Halpins.

PS - thank you Sarah for the copyright alert.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Monday 29 April 19 18:02 BST (UK): Quote from: kaligirl on Monday 29 April 19 16:21 BST (UK)
I visited my sister over the weekend and she gave me my grandmother's scrapbook.
Gandma had Thomas Halpin's parents as I have, but then suggested Patrick's parents were Christopher and Kathrine Corrigan. She had Patrick's grandparents as Christopher and Mary Donnelly.
I'm guessing she confused the two last names (and maybe first names) because there appears to be pretty clear evidence Katherine Donnelly is a correct ancestor.
I started searching for a Mary Corrigan and found a Mary Catherine Corrogan baptized in Westmeath in 1780 (a year before Christopher's birth). I've attached the information as the record notes her father as Owen Corrogan and Mother as Mary Connell. I can (as of yet) find no evidence of a marriage, but she may be related to this line of Halpins.

copyright image removed

That is very interesting. I am always interested in old documentation, you never know what new paths it will open.

It will take me a little while to go through the details you provided but at a first glance a couple of things strike me. Christopher died in 1890 so I doubt if he was born in the 1780's. You are related to Corrigans but by marriage rather that blood to the best of my knowledge at the moment. I also have not been able to show a connection to the Corrigans you mention although this may be because I haven't been able to go back far enough as yet.

Anyway, thank you for the information. Any little scrap is always of interest and I appreciate it.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Monday 29 April 19 18:07 BST (UK): I saw your post about the Halpins of Sheeptown, with the quote from Griffith's Valuation, prior to it's deletion.

I am aware of that family but have as yet been unable to show any connection to the Halpins of Lakill and Moortown.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Monday 29 April 19 18:11 BST (UK): Fechin - As always, I SO appreciate your assistance.
This Christopher would be Christopher Halpin's (1816-1890) father.
I'm sorry the Griffith's Valuation was deleted as I'd (not)transcribed that information - must be that I put the website information @ the end.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Monday 29 April 19 18:42 BST (UK): I assume since I transcribed this from the Griffith's Valuation Record Information, it meets the requirements of RootsChat. After transcribing, I found the date (1854). Since my ancestor was born in 1851, the Patrick in this record is most likely an uncle.

Tenant: Patrick Halpin
Landlord: Robert M. Tighe
County: Westmeath
Barony: Delvin
Union: Castletowndelvin
Parish: Clonarney
Townland: Sheepstown
Place Name: Sheepstown
Place Type: Townland
Publication Details
Position on Page: 38
Printing Date: 1854
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Monday 29 April 19 18:44 BST (UK): My apologies, I picked that up wrong. Yes it does make sense. If Christopher's (died 1890) baptism record could be found it might confirm it.

If you are viewing Griffith's Valuation, take a look at Lakill and Moortown in St. Feighin's parish. You will see references to Halfpenny, often used instead of Halpin. You will also see references to Donnelly and Heslam (Heslin?). Corrigans can be found in other townlands in the parish.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Monday 29 April 19 18:46 BST (UK): Wonderful!
Will do.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Monday 29 April 19 18:54 BST (UK): Quote from: kaligirl on Monday 29 April 19 18:42 BST (UK)
I assume since I transcribed this from the Griffith's Valuation Record Information, it meets the requirements of RootsChat. After transcribing, I found the date (1854). Since my ancestor was born in 1851, the Patrick in this record is most likely an uncle.

Tenant: Patrick Halpin
Landlord: Robert M. Tighe
County: Westmeath
Barony: Delvin
Union: Castletowndelvin
Parish: Clonarney
Townland: Sheepstown
Place Name: Sheepstown
Place Type: Townland
Publication Details
Position on Page: 38
Printing Date: 1854

I could find no evidence that there was a connection between the Halpins of Sheepstown and the Halpins of Lakill and Moortown.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: hallmark on Monday 29 April 19 20:04 BST (UK): VERY REV. FR. LAURIE HALPIN PP KILBEGGAN 1991 TO 2008
18th Oct 1932 to 12th Mar 2016. Fr. Laurie was a native of Sheepstown, Delvin, Co. Westmeath and the parish of Clonmellon. After he was ordained in Maynooth he was then appointed to Castlecomer , Co. Kilkenny while on loan to the Diocese of Ossery. When he returned to the Diocese in 1967 he was appointed as ....... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=2ahUKEwjfpuqp_vXhAhWSuHEKHTWnD8kQFjADegQIAhAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kilbegganparish.ie%2Fsite_media%2Fbulletins%2FPalm_Sunday_2016.docx&usg=AOvVaw2_jBQJBD8IUJn-zse-0ZI4
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: hallmark on Monday 29 April 19 20:06 BST (UK): https://www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/5009038/4979717/5117481?ChapterID=5009038
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: hallmark on Monday 29 April 19 20:40 BST (UK): I know some Will Calendars were posted, have you looked at all of them?

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nq6/
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Monday 29 April 19 20:45 BST (UK): Hallmark,

You will have to forgive me but I can see nothing in the links that you posted that shows any connection between the Halpins of Sheepstown and the Halpins of Lakill and Moortown. If you could direct me to the relevant sections I'd be very grateful.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: hallmark on Monday 29 April 19 20:53 BST (UK): Oh I do apologize, thought there might be something new in them.

Won't bother even looking up Wills and Deeds etc......
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Monday 29 April 19 21:21 BST (UK): No problem. Thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Saturday 04 May 19 14:16 BST (UK): Kaligirl,

I am working on the information given by your grandmother. It takes a while as the records are at times difficult to decipher.

One thing I did find, by sheer accident, was that Patrick Halpin (who died in 1905) had an eight sibling of whom I was previously unaware. He had a brother named Thomas who was baptised on 20th May 1842.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Sunday 05 May 19 10:22 BST (UK): Kaligirl,

I’ve drawn a blank on a Corrigan connection that your grandmother mentioned unfortunately.

That said, I do find it interesting that she mentioned a Corrigan. I don’t know if she was ever in Ireland. If she wasn’t, for some reason the name struck a chord with her. Certainly your grandfather knew Corrigans, he was probably in school with some of them, one of his aunts married a Corrigan and one of his sisters married a man whose mother was a Corrigan. Those Corrigans were brother and sister. It’s intriguing.

In one of your posts you say the following: “I started searching for a Mary Corrigan and found a Mary Catherine Corrogan baptized in Westmeath in 1780 (a year before Christopher's birth).” Could I ask where you found that Chrisopher.

If Christopher's (died 1890) baptism record could be found it would be a major advance. There is nothing to confirm that he was born in 1816 at the moment.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Monday 06 May 19 12:35 BST (UK): Quote from: Feichin on Saturday 16 September 17 17:00 BST (UK)
Another headstone:

I was told the following about another headstone in the graveyard at the back of the parish church in Fore.

It reads Catherine Halpin, died 6/5/1880, aged 72, Christopher Halpin, died 16/4/1890, aged 74 - then Bridget, wife of Christopher, died 9/4/1906, aged 40. Then on the side is Christopher, died June 1971 and Mary Ellen, died February 1982. At the bottom it says erected by Rev. W. J. Halpin, Iowa, U.S.

I was in Fore yesterday doing some research. I wasn’t actually looking for anything to do with the Halpins, however I came across a transcription of the inscription on the side of Christopher and Catherine’s grave. The transcription was done a number of years ago by a very well respected local historian.

It reads as follows:

Christy HALPIN
died
22 April 1936
Thomas died
2 April 1961
Christopher HALPIN
died 10th July 1971
His sister Kathleen
died 10th February 1982
R.I.P.

The Christy who died in 1936 was a brother of Patrick who died in 1905.

I took a couple of photos of the church and village while I was there if anyone is interested in them.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Monday 06 May 19 13:59 BST (UK): Feichin,

I go 'dark' on the weekends, so did not see your marvelous research. I am once again indebted for your help.

1. The Christopher born in 1781 was found in the 1821 Census from Balbridagh, Meath.
He was a Farmer age 40 and had a son, Christopher age 2.
I checked the map and it appeared Balbridagh was close enough to Delvin (and the 1819 date) that he could be related?

2. The additional transcription is much appreciated as would your photos.

i understand the Seven Wonders Bar is owned by an Ida Halpin. Any chance you've visited?
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Monday 06 May 19 14:29 BST (UK): Kaligirl,

Thank you for the information regarding the census. I will look at it.

I sent you the photos yesterday at the email address you gave me previously, I hope that you don’t mind. If you didn’t receive them, let me know and I will send them again.

I wasn’t in the Seven Wonders yesterday but I have been in it. You can see the pub on the first picture of the village that I sent. It is a grey building and has it’s name in red on a white background over the door. It is next door to another pub called the Abbey House which has a stone façade. Those pubs were probably there in some form or other when your grandfather lived in Fore. You are not related to the Halpins who own the Seven Wonders.

I also included a photo of Christopher and Catherine’s grave which I neglected to send to you previously.

There is also a photo taken from near Patrick and Williams grave showing the ruins of the old Benedictime Abbey.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Monday 06 May 19 15:11 BST (UK): Kaligirl,

It’s funny how things happen. I was just looking at the photos again and realised that some of the graves behind Christoper and Catherine’s are Corrigans. Also the man I mentioned in a previous post, whose mother was a Corrigan, is in the grave behind Patrick and William’s.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Monday 06 May 19 15:20 BST (UK): Very interesting - makes a connection possibility more realistic...
I often wonder if my grandfather was the son of a brother instead of Patrick as the records of his 'siblings' are available.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Monday 06 May 19 16:02 BST (UK): It is not unusual for there to be no records. I have numerous examples of it. I also have lists of possibilities. There are any number of reasons why no civil registration took place. In the case of church records, it was a matter for the local cleric and how diligent he was.

I have come across a whole family in Dublin who had no civil records. It was only through perseverance that I managed to find the church records. It is also not unusual to find individuals who seem to have slipped through the cracks. It’s hard work but sometimes it pays off. In Fore and Collinstown there are gaps in the records but by a process of elimination I made a breakthrough a few days ago.

Like I said, I have lists of possibilities. For example the Catherine Donnelly that you mentioned previously. She certainly is a “good fit”. Unfortunately there is nothing to show a connection but she should not be forgotten. At some stage in the future, something might arise that will show a connection. I regularly trawl though the records and it’s amazing what pops up sometimes
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Monday 06 May 19 17:21 BST (UK): And I GREATLY appreciate your help.

I went back and looked @ the scrapbook and (my) Gma has Patrick and Bridget as Thomas' parents, so I just need to keep digging.
I also plan to research Christopher J. Halpin and Kathrine Corrigan as grandparents as well as Richard G. Heslin and Mary Donnelly.

BTW - I thought you might enjoy a picture of my grandfather and his children sans one. Ida was married and in California. (My dad is the guy with glasses in the center.)
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Tuesday 07 May 19 21:21 BST (UK): Kaligirl,

Thank you for the picture of your grandfather. It’s nice to put a face to the name.

I’m afraid that I don’t know who exactly you mean by Christopher J. Halpin and Richard H. Heslin.

Thomas was Patrick’s son. Patrick said he was on the 1901 census form. I have no reason to doubt the man. In the 1911 census form Bridget said that she had nine children, all of whom survived. This made things easy as I knew the number of children to look for, although I did spend some time figuring out that Amice was Catherine.

With the generations of families I have dealt with I am sure that I missed some of the children, it is why I continually go back over my research. You recall that I found one of Patrick’s brothers only a few days ago while searching for someone else.

There currently is no sign of a civil record for Thomas. This could be for any number of reasons. However, I am also looking for the civil record for someone who was born in the same area and at the same time as Thomas. There is no civil record of this person at present either. Perhaps there was a mis-transcription of the records for that time and place or perhaps they were overlooked or lost. Perhaps they may yet appear or perhaps they never existed. I believe that there may be a church record for the person but that record is not publicly available, I may get to check eventually. I have on occasion notified errors in transcriptions to the relevant websites, the most recent was just last week.

I started my research in the days when you paid for civil records and the church records were not available on-line, even if you had a computer. It took me some time and some expense to put together my initial research. I learned to be patient and thorough. I find it stunning that a lot of information can now be checked and researched immediately and for free.

My research may not be absolutely correct, I don’t think that anyone could say with certainty that theirs is. I would love if someone provided me with proof that I am wrong, it would open up new avenues to explore. I have spent years researching this family, as have others. I am fairly confident of what I have found so far.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Tuesday 07 May 19 22:27 BST (UK): Feichen,

I too believe your research is impeccable and really appreciate you leading me to connect the dots.
My thanks again.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Sunday 02 June 19 20:29 BST (UK): Kaligirl,

I sent you some photographs taken in Castlepollard today which may be of interest.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Monday 03 June 19 02:35 BST (UK): The photographs are wonderful - thank you!
I will get there someday...
:)
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Saturday 08 June 19 00:41 BST (UK): Kaligirl,

I have sent you a photograph of Patrick Halpin’s grave in Castlepollard. Patrick was your grandfather’s brother. Also in the grave are Patrick’s wife Annie and some of his children. Patrick married Annie Mullvaney on 23rd June 1919 in Coole, a village a few miles from Castlepollard.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Saturday 08 June 19 13:41 BST (UK): Thank you again.
It becomes more evident that Thomas Halpin was born in 1883 as opposed to 1886 as noted on his headstone.
Each piece of information is so helpful and appreciated!
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Saturday 21 September 19 18:52 BST (UK): Feichen,

While I've hit a bottleneck (as opposed to a brick wall) finding birth information for either my great-grandfather Christopher or my grandfather Thomas, I have found some relatives in the US.

From their research, Patrick Halpin - (Christopher's brother) immigrated around 1839 to Cedarburg Wisconsin.
Catherine (Thomas' sister) did not remain single, but has a granddaughter in California.
And finally a Christopher Halpin, whose father's first cousin was Kathy Halpin of Church St. Castlepollard, has just moved, but will be digging into his archives as he visited her and the cemetery in Fore.

He told me a wonderful story about my grandfather: "The story I heard about Joseph (meaning my grandfather - I think) was that he was studying for the priesthood in Ireland (Maynouth) and was expelled because he would not tell on other seminarians who were smoking. Then his uncle brought both of them to Iowa. Just a story by Kathy and since she is no longer with us, we can't confirm."
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Saturday 21 September 19 21:09 BST (UK): Hello Kaligirl,

That is excellent.

That Patrick Halpin is a new name to me so it is a new avenue to explore.

I often wondered what became of Catherine. The last reference that I could find for her (assuming she was called Kathleen) was that she was at her sister’s wedding in 1925.

I was aware of Christoper Halpin having seen some of his posts on the internet. I’m glad that you are in contact with him. I love the story that he told you. Old memories and stories such as that bring genealogy to life.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Sunday 22 September 19 00:14 BST (UK): Kaligirl,

I went looking for Patrick Halpin. The following book gave details of him: "History of Washington and Ozaukee Counties, Wisconsin". You will easily find it online. It gives Patrick’s date of birth as 1st July 1813. I checked the Catholic parish registers and a Patrick Halpin was baptised in Fore on 2nd July 1813. His parents were Thomas and Catherine (née Carney).
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Sunday 22 September 19 01:15 BST (UK): Feichen - thanks once again. You always seem to be one step ahead of me...

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Halpin&GSiman=1&GScid=88927&GRid=31722360&

Thomas Halpin Headstone from Cedarburg Wisconsin

Birth: unknown
Death: Sep. 30, 1846

Inscription:
Aged 67 years

Burial:
Saint Francis Borgia Catholic Cemetery
Cedarburg
Ozaukee County
Wisconsin, USA

Created by: Curt Orth
Record added: Nov 25, 2008
Find A Grave Memorial# 31722360

Back of Ellen's headstone.
Potential father of Patrick Halpin, uncle of Rev. Wm. Halpin, uncle of grandfather Thomas Halpin
Born in 1779
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Sunday 22 September 19 09:56 BST (UK): Kaligirl,

I think that you are right. I can see no other reason for Thomas being on that headstone.

What a great find.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Friday 27 September 19 16:20 BST (UK): Kaligirl,

Per the Catholic parish registers, Thomas Halpin married Catherine Carney on 12th February 1809 at Castlepollard.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Sunday 13 October 19 19:07 BST (UK): Sorry - for some reason, I didn't receive this and I haven't read the register, but will later.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Monday 15 June 20 21:58 BST (UK): The lockdown associated with the horrible virus has limited my ability to go places that I'd wish to. As a result I have been mostly confined to on-line activities. While looking at YouTube I came across a video made at the end of last month. It is entitled “St Fechin's Trail, Nancy and Nellie Walk , Fore, County Westmeath” and it shows the topography of Fore Village and it's immediate surroundings. It shows one of the graveyards and a couple of the headstones mentioned in this thread. I'd recommend having a look at it if your interested in this topic.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Tuesday 16 June 20 14:13 BST (UK): I definitely will - thanks.
We are in the process of moving to assisted living (July 1), so anticipate I'll have little time until the 'dust settles' but hope to catch up on research @ that time.
Good to 'hear' from you!
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Sunday 21 June 20 21:45 BST (UK): Hello kaligirl,

I hope that you are well, best of luck with your move.

I'm continuing to dip in and out of the family history. I have accepted that Christopher Halpin was born in 1816 based on his death cert. I have done this because a baptism register does not appear to have been kept between 29th April 1815 and 13th March 1821, but also because of the accuracy with which his older brother Patrick's birth date was recorded. I have also found some of their siblings.

It appears the baptism register wasn't kept because the priest at the time didn't keep one for some reason. I think that I saw that that priest's grave in the cemetery at the back of the church in Fore. I'll check next time I'm there.

The travel restrictions imposed by the lockdown will be lifted next week so hopefully I'll go to Westmeath then.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Sunday 21 June 20 22:00 BST (UK): How wonderful to get closer to confirming dates. I too can't wait for the Covid-19 restrictions to be lifted as I dream of coming to Ireland.
I can't thank you enough for your assistance and wish you the best to health and happiness.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Sunday 12 July 20 00:49 BST (UK): I found a photo of my grandfather and sent it to Chris Halpin. He put me in contact with my first cousin Debbie Trotter. She was able to track down information and obtain her Irish citizenship.
There's a handwritten Birth and Baptismal Certificate that says Thomas Halpin was born on November 24, 1881 and was baptised in the Church of St. Michael, parish of Castlepollard, on November 25, 1881.
I’m hopeful to get a copy and start the process for my citizenship as well.
Exciting news!
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Thursday 16 July 20 21:12 BST (UK): Hello kaligirl,

That is excellent news. I'm sure the parish will be able to supply you with the copy baptismal certificate if you provide your grandfather's details. Most parishes charge a modest fee and postage for this service however I don't know how the system operates in Castlepollard.

It makes sense that your grandfather's baptism details weren't available, the public records end on 9th January 1881.

I decided to check your grandfather's brother Christopher's baptism record as I had not done so before, I have used the civil records for people of that era. Christopher's baptism record is there and it has a note added. While difficult to decipher the note is regarding Christopher's second marriage in 1925. One of the witnesses is a Thomas Halpin. I wonder did your grandfather travel back to Ireland for his brother's wedding.

I was wondering something similar in respect of Catherine Halpin. Her sister was also married in 1925 and there was a Kathleen Halpin as a witness at the marriage.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Thursday 16 July 20 22:27 BST (UK): Interesting. I will definitely check it out. Thanks again!
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Sunday 07 March 21 16:53 GMT (UK): I cannot be certain but I think that this may be what remains of the house that Patrick and Bridget Halpin lived in at the time of the 1901 census.

Due to the pandemic I'm reduced to online research. Hopefully when the restrictions are lifted I'll be able to learn some more.

(http://)
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Sunday 07 March 21 17:03 GMT (UK): Feichin - so good to hear from you!
I applied for late registration and received the official certificate of my grandfather's birth.
I will be applying for my foreign born citizenship as soon as the consulate opens for registration.
I'm hoping to visit as soon as I get my passport.

I'm not sure what you posted, but look forward to continuing learning more of the family.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Sunday 07 March 21 17:27 GMT (UK): Hello Kaligirl,

I hope that you are well.

Do I understand you correctly, you have registered your grandfather's birth in 1881.

Best of luck with your citizenship application.

Apologies for the delayed post, I had to modify my previous one. I think the house shown in the picture is where your grandfather lived in 1901.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Sunday 07 March 21 17:35 GMT (UK): Wonderful!

Yes - he's registered Nov 24, 1881.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Sunday 07 March 21 17:41 GMT (UK): I have just seen the record on irishgenealogy.ie. Very well done. Anyone researching in the future will have a far easier time.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Sunday 07 March 21 18:42 GMT (UK): Thank you.

I'm ready to start investigating the maternal side of my family - Scanlan.
Since most of my DNA shows other areas of Ireland, I'm assuming these counties will be my next focus.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Sunday 07 March 21 19:30 GMT (UK): Good luck with your investigation. The areas on the map you have there basically stretches the length and breadth of Ireland so you have your work cut out.

I have never done the DNA thing. Maybe in the future. At the moment I concentrate on mapping the family correctly and recording any physical evidence that still remains.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Sunday 07 March 21 19:32 GMT (UK): ;D

I do indeed...
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Saturday 08 October 22 16:12 BST (UK): A grandchild of Patrick Halpin (d.1905) and Bridget Heslin (d.1929) died recently.

I think the last of that generation of the family. I would be delighted if anyone could say that this is incorrect.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Saturday 08 October 22 16:54 BST (UK): Feichen - good to hear from you!

The children of son Thomas are all gone.
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: JCoash on Saturday 31 December 22 01:45 GMT (UK): I noticed a post regarding Halpin in Ozaukee, County Wisconsin. I am a descendent of Thomas and Caterine Carny(Kearny) and Patrick Halpin. I have been to Cedarburg, WI and maybe can be of assistance. Does anyone know when Thomas Halpin emmigrated to the USA.

Thanks
JCoash
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 31 December 22 16:09 GMT (UK): Welcome to RootsChat :)

Quote from: JCoash on Saturday 31 December 22 01:45 GMT (UK)

I am a descendent of Thomas and Caterine Carny(Kearny) and Patrick Halpin. I have been to Cedarburg, WI and maybe can be of assistance. Does anyone know when Thomas Halpin emmigrated to the USA.

For their immigration to the USA in 1907, see reply #16

Thomas Halpin born 24 November 1881 at Moortown, Castlepollard, Co. Westmeath. MMN Heslin
Image not available, so a transcript of the register entry can be viewed.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01s0n/

Moortown
https://www.townlands.ie/westmeath/fore/st-feighins/fore-west/lakill-and-moortown/

KG
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: kaligirl on Saturday 31 December 22 20:55 GMT (UK): JCoash,

You can find more information on Thomas here:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L5L4-SQV
Title: Re: Halpins in Westmeath
Post by: Feichin on Saturday 07 January 23 22:13 GMT (UK): Quote from: JCoash on Saturday 31 December 22 01:45 GMT (UK)
I noticed a post regarding Halpin in Ozaukee, County Wisconsin. I am a descendent of Thomas and Caterine Carny(Kearny) and Patrick Halpin. I have been to Cedarburg, WI and maybe can be of assistance. Does anyone know when Thomas Halpin emmigrated to the USA.

Thanks
JCoash

Hello JCoash,

I believe Thomas emigrated to the USA in 1842 / 1843, though I never came across any absolute proof of this.

Regards,

Feichin

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