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please could any one tell me if there is a place called gwinalen in cornwall. as i am trying to find parents and family of william jenkins. in 1881 census R G11/5328/114/15 HE SAYS HE WAS BORN IN GWINALEN CORNWALL in 1853 does this place exist .
regards jere. ;)
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Hi Jere
Could you post the Reference number again ... I can't seem to find him in 1881.
thanks
deb
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Me neither
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hi all.
this is the ref. no.
R.G 11 piece 5328. folio. 114 page 15
the dwelling is llest row.
census place is llangeinor glamorgan
william jenkins H M 28 coal miner born gwinalen cornwall?
regards jere.
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AHHHH thanks Jere
I was looking on the England census and not Welsh ;D ::)
It does look like Gwinilen .... i am trying to think what place it may be ... it seems the Welsh enumerator may not have understood his Cornish accent ! ;D
What do you think Sue?
Deb
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Hi
Here's a possible
In 1871:
living in Kenwyn:
William Jenkins head mar 50 groom
Jane wife mar 48
WILLIAM son 16 tin miner born GWENNAP
john son 7 scholar
deb
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hi deb.
thanx for that it might be him with parents. have you got thr ref. number so that i can call it up at a later date please.
thank you jere. ;)
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oops
Sorry about that :-\
1871
RG10/2286 fol 61 p 6
still looking for him in 1861.
deb
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Jenkin is more common than Jenkins in Cornwall
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Hi
Thanks for that Sue :)
Was looking for the same family in 1861, just in case it does turn out to be William with his parents. I think I found them under JENKIN ;D
RG9/1576 fol 30 p 12
All living in Gwennap
William's father's occupation: measures coal
deb
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thanx for all you'r help deb and sue.
much appreceited.
kind regards jere. ;)
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Hi
Has the parents and family of William Jenkins. in 1881 census who stated he was born in Gwinalen, Cornwall been found conclusively now? I too am looking for the family of him, he was great great grandfather.
Regards
Rob
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Hi
I know have evidence that the William Jenkins. in 1881 census R G11/5328/114/15 was William Vincent Jenkins who married Mary Jane Lang in 1873. His father was Thomas Jenkins a miner. I have found a census entry in Cornwall RG10/2347/15/21 that's shows a William Jenkins at home aged 17 with a Thomas Jenkins as head. Maybe one and the same?
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hello welshbob. Sorry for the delay in answering you but computer playing up a bit I will have to try and get my work back off brother in law as it was his family i was researching the jenkins and lang I shall get back to you in a couple of days if thats ok jere. :)
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Hi jere
Computers don't you just love them lol.
I have an update on the census RG10/2347/15/21 in Cornwall I found, it is not our William. I found at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kayhin/72347.html on page 5 a transcript of that census. That Thomas was a ship carpenter as ours was a miner, that William was in school at 14 as ours could not write.
I also found another possible record which turned out not to be ours either in the Scilly Isles. Our William is an illusive one lol. I have a bit on Richard Lang but not a lot.
Talk soon
Rob :)
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Hiya Bob.
Just had a look at my brother-in-laws file I have nothing on william jenkins only have him in the 1881 1891 1901 census when he was married i remember i drew a blank on him so left the jenkins side be until i could have some more proof . but if you notice the first child born in the 1881 census was called william R maybe after him and mary janes father richard the next son was called george R so maybe william jenkins dad was called george unless you have proof that he was called thomas? as thomas was the next son down to george. i shall have another try and finding him now i think.
speak to you soon jere. :)
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Hi Jere
William's father was Thomas Jenkins according to Williams marriage certificate, I have tried looking for a census record for him in Cornwall but with no luck. Of course many skipped the census records by being on the move that day, I haven't filled one in since 1981! hahahhahahha.
If I find anything more out I will let you know, maybe you might have more luck than me.
Talk soon
Rob
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Hi, sorry to jump on this but with regards to the Lang side of things.. I'm researching my family tree right now and I've come along a Mary Lang born around 1864 her Brother Richard born 1864 and another brother Samuel. Her parents were Richard Lang 1831 and Betsey Lang (Chudley) 1832 and were married on 27/11/1861... It's a shot in the dark but perhaps this is the same Mary? I'm not sure what information you have your end so let me know, Thanks.
Sophie x
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Hi Sophie
Jump in all you like the more the merrier :)
Alas I do not think your Langs are the same. My Mary Lang (later Jenkins) had no brothers Richard and Samuel I know of, she was born 1855 to Richard Lang b. 1829 and Mary Lang nee Rees b. 1833. They were married Aug 27th 1854 at St James, Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales.
Good luck with your search.
Cheers
Rob
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Thanks very much, Dammit, worth a shot eh... I seem to have come to brick walls with all my lines now. x
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Hi Rob,
it's been a while since I was on this thread :)
I looked on IGI again today and saw a William Jenkins b 1853 in the Scilly Isles s/o Betsy Jenkins ...no father. I know this doesn't fit as his dad was Thomas on the marriage cert. but I see that you also thought you may have found him there.
I did find this though which seems to 'almost' fit with your jere's initial post : William Jenkins b Gwinalen
From Wiki:
Great Ganilly (Cornish: Guen Hily, pronounced "g'NIL-ee", meaning the saltwater downs) is one of the Eastern Isles of the Isles of Scilly. It has a maximum total area of 0.13 square kilometres and a highest point of 34 metres above sea level, located in the middle of the island. There are two known Cairns near the summit.
I wonder if this is where he was born?
deb
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I wonder if this is his birth reg:
William Jenkins
Mar q 1853
Scilly Islands Cornwall
Vol 5c pg 383
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Hi Deb
Thank you for your post. Its interesting what you have said, I will revisit this line of inquiry and see. Its been a while since I looked down this line as I have been busy on another branch. I will get back to you.
Cheers
Rob
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Hi Rob,
I Have been looking at maps and it seems that Great Ganilly is very tiny and looks like it's uninhabited. :-\
http://www.intocornwall.com/engine/azabout_map.asp?guide=St+Mary%27s+Isles+of+Scilly
I found this map from 1874, Great Ganilly is near the upper right.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Scilly-bartholomew02_large.jpg
Not sure if we'll ever figure out where "Gwinalen" is.
deb
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Hi Deb
Cool map of the silly isles. That would have been quite a trek from there back in the old days. I doubt Gwinalen ever existed but a bad spelling by the person who filled in the census, back in those days most people could not write so others filled it in.
I will do some digging.
Rob