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Title: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: osborn on Thursday 22 February 07 03:29 GMT (UK)
The only info. I have re this family is:

John SMITH b. abt 1771 Yaxley. In  October,1797 he married Hannah Quincey b. abt. 1775.
They had at least 3 children:
Amy b. 1821 Farcet
Joseph b. 1835 Farcet
James b. 1840 Farcet

Also scribbled on the paper is "Orton Waterville near Peterborough"  I don't know if this is where Hannah Quincey lived or where they were married!!

Any help would be appreciated.      OSBORN
Title: Re: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Friday 23 February 07 08:38 GMT (UK)
I think that on reflection you will question the fact that the last two children are John and Hannah's.

Hannah would have been over 60, which rules her out as being the mother. Whilst Amy could just about be Hannah's daughter (she would have been 46 which is just possible) I think you need to double check this information also

Regards

David
Title: Re: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: osborn on Friday 23 February 07 08:49 GMT (UK)
shall do, thanks.     Osborn ::)
Title: Re: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Friday 23 February 07 08:55 GMT (UK)
Hunts Marriage Index shows a 1797 marriage at Farcet between Hannah Quincey otp and John Smith of Haddon - if you check the IGI at www.familysearch.org you'll find the marriage on 31 Oct 1797, although it's only indexed under Smith, not Quincy.

Haddon - Yaxley - Farcet - Orton Waterville are all with 4 miles of each other, to the south of Peterborough, but in Hunts, whereas Peterborough was in Northants

Regards

David
Title: Re: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Friday 23 February 07 09:06 GMT (UK)
The BVRI has the following baptisms in Farcet:
Thomas Smith 25 Dec 1799 son of John and Hannah
John 30 May 1802 son of John and Hannah
Sarah 14 Oct 1804 dau of John and Hannah
Edward 31 May 1807 son of John and Hannah
Henery (sic) 5 Nov 1809 son of John and Hannah
Henry 26 May 1811 son of John and Hannah
Amey 20 Sept 1812 dau of John and Hannah (there is no other Amey after this)

Joseph Smith 19 Oct 1834 son of Amey Smith

There is no James  Smith baptised in 1840 +/- 5

Regards

David
Title: Re: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Friday 23 February 07 09:13 GMT (UK)
There are the following Smith burials in Farcet, among numerous other Smiths

Henry infant 30 Oct 1810
Thomas age 12 15 Sept 1811
Hannah age 79, 2 March 1855
John age 82, 8 Jan 1857

David
Title: Re: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Friday 23 February 07 09:45 GMT (UK)
I think I see where your scribblings on the piece of paper come from

1851 census
HO107/1747 folio 216A
Farcet
John Smith head marr 80 Ag lab pauper b Yaxley
Hannah Smith wife 76 b Long Orton
Amy Smith dau unmarr 30 b Farcet
Joseph Smith son 16 b Farcet
James Smith son 11 b Farcet

In 1841 HO107/452/21 folio 4A
High St, hamlet of Standground, parish of Farcet
John Smith 70 ag lab
Hanah Smith 60
Amey Smith 20
Joseph Smith 5
James Smith 1
All born in Hunts

In 1861 Amey 44 was living with her son James age 21, and finally in 1871 she gave her real age as 59 still unmarried. The 1851 which should have been the most useful was inaccurate in that Joseph and James were described as sons whereas they should have been grandsons to the head of the family, and Amy gave a wrong age

So Joseph and James were Amy's illegitimate children

David

Title: Re: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: osborn on Friday 23 February 07 23:32 GMT (UK)
Thank you for so much info.  I will enter this before I get things mixed up as there are other Smiths to research - oh, for an easier name!!
      Sorry to be a pest, but "down under" we do not have the info. you have access to unless payment is made for everything.
                          OSBORN :-[
Title: Re: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Saturday 24 February 07 08:22 GMT (UK)
"Down under" you have EXACTLY the same access to information as I do living in France, or that researchers living in the UK have.  None of the information I and many others give you comes free (and if it is free, the IGI for example, then you can look it up just as easily as we can!). We have to pay, either a subscription to access the censuses on Ancestry, or to buy fiches/CDroms from Hunts FHS and other organisations. The only people with "free" access to records in Hunts are those who can walk to Huntingdon Records Office, ie no petrol or car parking charges, and I've seen no evidence on this board that there's anyone in that lucky position.

If you have a hobby you must expect that you have to put your hand in your pocket from time to time (particularly when researching in a county like Hunts where online information is limited and in many parishes the only way to access information is to pay Huntingdon Records Office for their research service).

Are you anywhere near a Family History Centre of the LDS? They have free access to Ancestry and you can view microfilms of parish registers for a nominal figure.

David
Title: Re: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: osborn on Saturday 24 February 07 23:29 GMT (UK)
Sorry David  - Thank you for all your help.

                                      Osborn :'(
Title: Re: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Sunday 25 February 07 04:24 GMT (UK)
No apologies necessary! Just clearing up a popular misconception that antipodean researchers are somehow at a disadvantage when it comes to researching English family history.
Title: Re: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: DSR on Tuesday 27 February 07 15:26 GMT (UK)
i did post this on the other section.  But I live a few miles from Yaxley and I am around 2 miles from Orton in Peterborough. So if you ever need any pictures or anything like that, I am sure I can sort something out for you.
Title: Re: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: osborn on Thursday 01 March 07 00:02 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your offer.  If possible I would love to get a photo of Olive House, Yaxley where my GGUncle  used to live.  I have an old postcard of the Yaxley Boys School but that is all.  Let me know if you need my email address and I will send you a personal message.      Osborn.:)
Title: Re: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: DSR on Thursday 01 March 07 08:09 GMT (UK)
If you could send me a copy of the postcard through I can identify the building form the picture. Currently I can find no Olive House although it could now be a nursing home.


Title: Re: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: osborn on Thursday 01 March 07 23:13 GMT (UK)
It is not the boys school, but Olive House that I need.  I have been told that it still stands on the corner of Main Street and Church Street, Yaxley

Don't go out of your way, but if you are ever near there.................

                       Many thanks, Osborn ???
Title: Re: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: DSR on Thursday 01 March 07 23:27 GMT (UK)
I am only a 60 sec drive  from there, so will take a look tomorrow. But I think this is it on teh attached Google Earth Picture.



Title: Re: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: DSR on Friday 02 March 07 12:15 GMT (UK)
Hi ,. Found Olive House.

Links below to a few pics taken with camera phone, so hope there ok. I have also marked it on Google Earth for you.




Regards


Title: Re: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: osborn on Saturday 03 March 07 00:19 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much for all your trouble.  I have saved them and printed them off to send to another cousin who is also interested.  A great job!!!

              Thank you,   Osborn ;D
Title: Re: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: DSR on Saturday 03 March 07 13:52 GMT (UK)
No problem.


Yaxley is still quite old Worlde in parts.  Even the Fire Station is tiny and has its original 1848 ( ish ) date still on the outer wall.


This website might be of some use as well :

http://hipweb.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/cgi-bin/cambscoll/history.pl?term=Yaxley&category=village&exact=exact

Title: Re: John SMITH 1771 Yaxley
Post by: osborn on Saturday 03 March 07 23:34 GMT (UK)
Thank you once again - all very interesting.
                                           Osborn ;D