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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: patrexjax on Thursday 22 February 07 17:01 GMT (UK)
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Seeking descendants of the Spoor family of Whickham and Ryton. I have more than a dozen years of research to share.
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Hello, and cool winter greetings from Canberra, Australia.
I have just discovered that I am a descendant of Mary Elliott Spoor, born in Whickham in 1831. Mary Elliott was the daughter of William and Catherine. I have looked at the IGI indexes, and notice that there are 2 marriages between a William and Catherine around the estimated time, and I am not sure of her mother's surname.
I have found her on the 1851 Census, living in Northallerton and employed as a domestc servant. She married John Wetherill and they lived in Northallerton and raised their family there. I have not been able to locate her in the 1841 Census, so I have no guide for reseaching her parents.
Does any of this sound familiar? Do you think there could be a link with your tree?
Kind regards
Rebekah
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Hello Rebekah! So very good to hear from you! Your Mary Elliott Spoor was the daughter of William Spoor and Catherine DUNN. There are several other SPOOR searchers that I can put you in direct contact with; your direct line has been traced further back. If you send me a personal message I will be pleased to give you more family information. Most sincerely, Pat Hughes
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Hello again Pat
Thank you for your reply. I just today received the marriage certificate for Mary Elliott Spoor and John Wetherill, confirming that her father William was a Keelman, and they lived at Ballast Hills, Newcastle at the time of Mary's marriage on 8 Sept 1853. I would love to chat with anyone who has done research on the Spoor family.
Please excuse my ignorance, I am new to Rootschat. How do I send you a personal message?
Rebekah
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Just to the left of the "Please excuse...." in your message is a partial face and next to it is a scroll. Go to the answer the person you want to sent a message to and click on that scroll in their answer pane. Then you can send a message. That is the easiest way. There are others.
Janis
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I have recently come across this subject - better late than never! On my wife's side there is an Alice Spoor who married an Arthur Lowes circa 1930 - however we are more interested in some of the other names you are researching. We are particularly interested in Harding of Whickham and the Liddell branches.
Are you willing to share on these names?
Regards, Mike
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Hi Pat
Good to hear from you again and thanks for starting this line up. As you know I am descended from Amor Spoor via his daughter Betty b 1774.
Could you solve a problem for me? Betty's brother Michael had a son called Amor who married a woman called Martha in Yorkshire and they had a daughter, Margery who died young. Do you by any chance know the maiden name of his wife, Martha?? I've hunted everywhere and failed to find the marriage.
Many thanks
Ashley
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I have a Hannah Spoor from Hexham who married a James Crozier. Their daughter, Hannah Crozier was the second wife of my 3rd Great Grandfather, Thomas Elliott, born Bell's Close in 1816. Does anyone here have information on him? A long shot, but the Spoor, Elliott and Whickham just seems too much of a coincidence.
His first wife, my 3rd G Grandmother, Sarah Nicholson's family came from Whickham/Swalwell. Her family married into Hall and Maddsion and Ewart and later into Allen. They went to live at South Shore, Gateshead working at New Greenwich. Most likely they all worked for the heavy engineering firm of Hawks, Crawshay & Sons. So they probably worked at the Ambrose Crowley works in Swalwell before that. After that descendants went to work in Hunslet, Leeds, Poplar and Erith, Norwich.
My Elliott ancestors were Boiler Makers. The Halls were Chain Makers. The Maddisons were Boiler Makers. Ewarts were Brass Moulders. Allens were Boiler Makers and Anchor Smiths.
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Hello fergussonfamily, First, let me apologize profusely for not responding sooner. My husband was in the midst of radiation treatments for his cancer when he had to have open heart surgery. So, things have been very hectic around here. I THINK we may have a connection as I have a second cousin (Isabella Spoor b. 1804) who married Richard Ewart in 1826 in the Tynemouth district of Northumberland. ) I have a lot of information on the Spoor family going back,but I do not know anything about any possible Ewart/Spoor children. If I can assist you with any Spoor information, please do not hesitate to ask. Sincerely, Pat
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Since then I've done a little more research and my Hannah Spoor was born in Hexham, probably actually Whitley like her husband. She is only the mother of the second wife of my ancestor, so no blood relation. It is his first wife's family who lived in Whickham, but probably in Swalwell, so the matching names and places are just a coincidence.
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Hi
Just seen your post from couple years ago, I am researching Spoor family going back from Mary b 13th Aug 1801 bapt 21st Aug 1801 St Thomas aquino(as) Bladon (Blaydon), parents Andrew Spoor and Ann(e) Davison. I know Andrew and Ann m 23rd Oct 1791 Holy Cross Ryton and I have 8 children all bapt' Bladon. Do you have any info on either Spoor family or Davison family prior to this? Any info much appreciated.
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Hello Popsical and a very warm welcome to Rootschat! This particular Spoor line is not my direct line, but I have gathered some information which I hope will be helpful to you. ;D Firstly, I believe they may have had a total of nine children. The Father, Andrew Spoor, was very elusive to find; however, it appears that his Father was yet another Andrew Spoor, and his Father was Another Andrew Spoor who was born about 1730 in Netherwitton, Northumberland. (Some other related Spoor lines have originated in Rothbury, Nothumberland, so there is a strong chance that your line may intersect with them.) I had no joy in tracing your Andrew's Mother, Anne Davison. Let me add, tho, that in some records, I have seen that surname spelled as DaviDson. If you would like more information about their children, I will be pleased to provide that information. Also, for your information, Andrew Spoor is listed in the House of Lords Papist returns in 1767 as a tailor, which may account for difficulty in finding them..... Sincerely, patrexjax
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Hi patrexjax
Thanks for info, never heard of Papist returns, you learn something new all the time. The chidren I have for Andrew and Anne are:- Sarah 1794, Andrew 1796 m Ann and was a Waterman, James 1798, Anna 1801, Mary 1803 m 1822 William Simpson at Chester-le-Street, it is that line via their dau Margaret b1823 that I've been researching,Elizabeth 1806, Elizabeth 1808 and John 1811.
If Andrew's Gd F b 1730c then they all must have married abt age 20, I don't as yet have a date for Andrew and Anne's births or deaths. Any info is very welcomed as sometimes leads to where you least expect it to or gives clues to follow up. Thanks again for your help.
Not used to using these chat sites so fumble about a bit, if I get it wrong, sorry.
Regards Popsical
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Hello again Popsical! Thank you for your response and the children you have found for Andrew and Ann...... I believe they had an earlier child, Michael Spoor chr 6 Mar 1892 Blaydon who married 31 Oct 1813 to Mary Dixon. I have 7 children for that particular couple, if you are interested. Also, I THINK your Andrew (the waterman) married Ann Craft who was b abt 1794 in Blanchland; it looks like they married 19 June 1820 and I have some of their children.
I have to run out and run a few errands, but I hope this is enough to keep you going til I get back to you with additional information. :) BTW, after you post a 3rd response, you will be allowed to send and receive PM (personal messages) which many Rootschatters use to relay more personal details.
Sincerely, patrexjax
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Hi Me again,
Thank's patrexjax, Andrew Spoor b 1796 (waterman) I have his wife as Ann Croft rather than Craft but I'm not too interested in that line, got enough to keep me busy without expanding into all siblings. I'm also aware of the Davi(D)son name difference, they only do it to confuse me further!!
I shall now go North and see what I can find, if anything, on the father and Gd father Andrews. I live in the Cambridgeshire Fens and must admit know very little about North'd, good job I have some decent maps. This particular Tree is for one of my son in laws and the name Spoor(s) has been used as a first name so might link to others, these were, Spoors Carr b 1852, George Spoors Carr Patterson b 1870, Spoors Carr Patterson b 1896 and Spoors Robson b 1921 Hartlepool d 1999 Huddersfield. If anyone has links to any of these happy to hear from you.
Regards Pops'
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Hello again! I have a little more information "further back" that might help you. I believe that the Andrew Spoor who was born about 1730 in Netherwitton died 16 Jan 1774 in Ryton. (His Father was a John Spoor). Interestingly, he married Ann "Heckles" who was born about 1730 in Newcastle-on-Tyne; she died 1 March 1775 in Ryton. I put Ann in quotes as it appears her Father's name was spelled "Eccles" so the entry may relate to the pronunciation factor. Andrew and Ann were married 26 July 1756 in Ryton, so the "southward migration" occurred sometime after this Andrew was born. I hope this helps in your quest and if I can help any further, I do have some information on other children if you think that might help you. Happy hunting! Sincerely, patrexjax
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Hi patrexjax
Just came back to tell you what I'd found and it was the same as you but I'd not got death dates.
Also there was a Sarah Spoor bapt 7th Jan 1732/3 at Nether Witton who's father is John and it says Abode Hunshugh, could this be Humshaugh, which brings us back to near Newcastle.
I also note that Ann Heckles bapt 20th Sep 1730, it was at St Andrew RC church, so now we have a Catholic connection. Will keep plodding on, no doubt eventually it will make sense.
Thanks for your help, nice that we both came up with the same info, makes me feel more confident that it's likely to be right.
Popsical
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Hello! Thanks for the extra info. I agree -- it certainly is nice to have one's "finds' verified! :'( Please keep me "in the loop" on any other finds; I promise to do likewise. Sincerely, patrexjax
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Hello all,
A long shot but is anyone on this thread still active?
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Hello Ralph! YES, and I am still interested in the SPOOR family of Whickham and Ryton areas... Are you related??? Sincerely, patrexjax
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Wow, that was a quick reply after a five year break!
Yes I am related, via Amor Spoor and Harding Spoor and my beloved grandmother Rita, in fact my middle name is Amor.
I'm interested in anything anyone can share.
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Hello again Ralph! We must be, in fact, closely related!! My own Father ALSO has Amor as his middle name!!! (William Amor King) born 1888 in Newcastle-on-Tyne.... I have 20 some Amor Spoors in my data base and probably half as many Harding Spoors in my tree.... PLEASE provide me with some dates of birth and/or death and I will definitely be able to help you immensely. Once you have posted three messages, we can communicate via personal message system. This is vital in the case of living persons as Rootschat has a strict policy of not mentioning living people. It appears to me that we are most certainly cousins of some degree.... AND, a warm welcome to Rootschat patrexjax
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That sounds great thanks and yes we must be related in some way.
My great grandfather was Amor Spoor, 25/11/1869 to Jan 1952. I never met him as he died before I was born. He married my great grandmother Beatrice Ayre 21/07/1885 to 31/12/1981 and I remember seeing her many times when I was a child and a teenager.
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Oh my! YES, we are related and I have reams of information or you on your Spoor line..... I am just going out the door, but will be back later tonite. I assume you are in England so it will be late for you. I am across the pond and will send a LONG message to you when I get home later tonite! What genealogy program do you use???? Much more later! Pat
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Thanks Pat, yes I'm in good old Blighty so it's late evening here. No rush for a response as it will be circa ten hours until I see it.
And hello cousin!
I use ancestry.co.uk
I have uploaded a very full family tree that my great-aunt investigated over twenty five years ago and gave me a paper copy. I have many relatives in Florida who are also related via the spoor line.
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Hello Ralph! I have sent you a personal message relating to persons who may be alive... Sincerely, your cousin, Pat
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SPOOR FAMILY
I am descended from ANDREW SPOOR B 1776, Whickham, Durham, who married JANE TURNER in England. Their son Andrew Spoor came to Australia and married Mary Ann Delaney.
Andrew had a sister named Caroline Ecley Spoor, and a daughter named Caroline Ekerly Spoor.
When I was young, my Grandmother used to tell me that her family had some connection to a man named Sir Ekerly Bartrum, who she described as a "remittance man" (someone who was sent away from England for shaming his family), but I cannot find any Ecley or Eckerly connection to the family tree. Has anybody researching the Spoor's of Durham, come across this name "Eckerly" or "Ecley"?