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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: Kinn on Tuesday 27 February 07 08:31 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I am tracing my family tree. According to my gg grandmother Euphemia Rae Amer (nee Stevenson) she is related to George Stephenson (Rocket Fame).
I would very much like to hear from descendants of the Stephenson family in the Northumberland area.
Any information that anyone can give me would be of most help.
Chezkinn
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Chezkinn,
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Chezkin,
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Chezkinn, I am a descendant of the family of George Stephenson, I am afraid I have never heard of your ancestor being part of the family. Can you give me more details about her
Regards, Bob Roper
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Hi Bob
I wonder if you can help me.
According to my gg gandmother Euphemia Rae Stephenson, she is supposed to be the great niece of George Stephenson.
I have managed to trace her back to her father who was Cunningham Stephenson born around 1818 in Kirkcudbright. Cunningham married a Jane Robertson or Robson (we are not sure which) and his parents are supposedly John Stephenson and Euphemia Rae. My mother and I can only assume that the connection (if there is one) would be John Stephenson. I can only find a marriage for John not a birth or death in Scotland.
Can you shed any more light on this. My gg grandmother did have the family bible so we can only assume that George is mentioned in this bible.
We have become rather stuck but any help you can give me or any information about your ancestors would be appreciated.
regards
Cheryl
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Hi Cheryl I was engaged in some possible research into ancestry etc and came across the research you have been doing only to realise who it was. Quite eerrie really! It looks as if you have set yourself quite a task and it is my daughter Jane who is attempting to uncover ours. Have you ever discovered the whereabouts of the Family Bible? There was always something mysterious about this and I can't imagine why a museum would lose it or evidence of it. Anyway, good luck with your research and I hope you don't mind me making contact.
Sandra
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Sandra,
I have never heard of the bible you mention. Can you give me more Dates and Places. If you are the same line as Cheryl's it seems unlikely that there is a connection to the family of George Stephenson.
I would be pleased to hear from you
Bob Roper
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Welcome to Rootschat Johsan
I hope you and Cheryl manage to find some connections and possibly Bob can assist you in researching your families - even if it turns out that are not connected to each other!
Bob - does anything Cheryl says in her details above link to your research so far?
kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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Arranroots,
As a descendant of the Stephenson family of George Stephenson the railwayengineer, I have a lot of enquiries about the family including the present ones and it is extremely rare to find a connection. People do not realise what a great number of Stephenson families there are. I am pleased to hear from them as I might be lucky in connectig with a few that I cannot contact.
Regards Bob Roper( Robert Stephenson Roper)
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I have a Stephenson which I cannot connect anywhere...Mary Ann Stephenson who married Archibald Harper Donaldson. Archibald's parents, Thomas Donaldson and Joannah Harper were married in 1853. Mary Ann had a daughter, also Mary Ann. Mary Ann died in New York City in 1915.
Sharon
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Sharon,
As far as I know there was never a Mary Ann Stephenson in our family. Can you give some dates and places where she married, It may helpgive me some idea where to look.
FRegards, Bob
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Hi,
My mother says that she was told that her grandfather's second wife said she was related to 'the' George Stephenson. I have disproved a couple such family stories and thought I'd have a go at this one.
The second wife was born Elizabeth Hebb in North Frodingham, Yorkshire in 1836. I have traced her parents to be Thomas Hebb and Isabella Stephenson.
Isabella's father was Marmaduke Stephenson. The only Marmadukes that fit, that I can find, were born in Yorkshire in the 1770's.
This seems to to rule out a connection to George, unless it was even further back.I would think that a name like Marmaduke would stand out and they seem to be still in Yorkshire.
I found this thread while looking for details on George's family.
Do any of the names mean anything to you?
Cheers,
Dave
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Dave,
Sorry, I can't place any of the nams you mention in the family of George Stephenson, unless it is much further back. I have no firm info before George's fathjer "Old Bob".
Rgards, Bob
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Hi,
My mother says that she was told that her grandfather's second wife said she was related to 'the' George Stephenson. I have disproved a couple such family stories and thought I'd have a go at this one.
The second wife was born Elizabeth Hebb in North Frodingham, Yorkshire in 1836. I have traced her parents to be Thomas Hebb and Isabella Stephenson.
Isabella's father was Marmaduke Stephenson. The only Marmadukes that fit, that I can find, were born in Yorkshire in the 1770's.
This seems to to rule out a connection to George, unless it was even further back.I would think that a name like Marmaduke would stand out and they seem to be still in Yorkshire.
I found this thread while looking for details on George's family.
Do any of the names mean anything to you?
Cheers,
Dave
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Nothing to do with the Rocket, but certainly to do with Stephenson. My grandfather's middle name was Stephenson (Arthur Stephenson Wright) and this always intrigued me as no relatives could suggest why it might be there. A bit of research turned up the fact that his father had married one Edith Hebb, daughter of Thomas Hebb and Isabella Stephenson, sister of Marmaduke. Any more information about the Stephensons or the Hebbs relating to their yorkshire origins, gratefully received. Thanks!
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Dave,
It is surprising how many peole think they have a connection with George and the Rocket. As far as I know Old Robert Stephenson came from Scotland I have never found his parents with any certainty. I know how many Stephensons there are in North Yorks. On the old IGI on fiche it was poassible to count the families, there were so many entries. I always look at such reports in the hope of something to help me, but no luck yet.
Bob
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I have another --slightly distant-- connection to George Stephenson!
A niece of George Stephenson--Elizabeth --married John Forester Stenson 16/02/1836 at Whitwick Leics.. John Stenson was a son of William Stenson "father of Coalville." William was my 4 x great grandfather .
According to a newspaper report of the time, when William Stenson wanted to open a rail line for the mine he'd opened to join the main Leicester line, he asked George to come & give advice.Eventually, son Robert Stephenson developed this--the Swannington & Leicester railway
Can anyone give me any details of a brother of George who would have been Elizabeth's father please? Elizabeth had a sister Mabel,who in 1851 was living with John & Elizabeth. John died in 1863,. In 1871, the 2 sisters were living together in London Road Leicester.
Thank you
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Eileen,
Yes you are quite right. Elizabeth Stenson was one of three daughters of James Stephenson 1779-1847 George's elder brother. James and his youngest daughter Jane are buried at Coalville and their gravestones are in the church.
JFS and Elizabeth had no children. How are you connected to the Stensons?
I think there is a onename study of the Stensons.
I am descended from george's youngest brother John
Bob
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Thank you for your reply Bob.
I had tried to trace Elizabeth's birth without success so I'm very pleased to learn who her father was-also, I had no idea that Elizabeth had another sister so thank you for that too.
I must see if I can get into the church at Coalville sometime -I have seen the outside--I have family in Nottingham & they took me to Coalville, Coleorton. Kirby Muxloe, Hugglescote & other local places associated with William Stenson & his daughter Charlotte, but it was a quick tour round to give me an idea of the area..
My Stenson connection:
William & Hannah (Varnham) Stenson had a daughter Charlotte b1801
Charlotte m ( another) William Stenson-they had a son Thomas 1838
Thomas m Sarah Jane Mitchell --they had a daughter Charlotte b 1864
This Charlotte Stenson was my great grandmother
Yes--thank you--there is a one name Stenson study-Nigel Rixson got in touch with me some time ago, but I have been fortunate in being able to contact other Stenson descendants who have been helpful.
Eileen
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Hi Guys!
I wonder if you could help me too??
My husbands grandma who recently died always claimed that her mum was a decendant of 'the' Robert and George Stephenson.
In the research I have seen on the RobertStephensontrust.com website it claims that James (brother of George, uncle of Robert) didn't have any children. Because of this I had excluded this line of research & I have been continuing the other lines - brother Robert 1788-1837 and I plan to look at John too (as Elanor didn't have any children and Ann moved to the USA).
The earliest I can get so far is when Matthew Robson married Isabelle Ord Alderson. Does any one have any information any earlier than this which will help me continue on my quest to find family members?
Any help would be appreciated.
Many thanks
Janice
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Janice.
The Robert Stephenson Trust website does not say that James Stephenson had no children. He had three daughters but they did not have any children.
I am afraid that the names Robson or Alderson are not in the tree of the Stephensons. Sorry about that
Bob
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Hi
My dad's sister gave him a hand drawn tree, showing Robert & Mabel Carr, 3 of their children - Robert b.1788, George b.1781 and John b.1789. John married Mary in 1810, and they are shown as having 2 children - George Robert b.1819 and James b. 1816. This James married a Mary and they had a child Emma b.1832.
This Emma is allegedly the same Emma who appears on my family tree as Emma Steventon who married a George Westwood b.1830 Wolverhampton d.1871 who had 8 children, Emma b.1854, Cornelius b.1856, James b.1856, George b.1861, William Alfred b.1864, Edwin b.1866, Amelia b.1868 and John b.1871
I am then descended from William Alfred.
I would be very interested to learn of any information which could prove/disprove this allegation that I am descended from Robert & Mabel.
Thanks in advance for any help that anyone can give me.
Julia
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Julia,
I was interested that you have John Stephenson marrying a Mary. Actually he married Hannah Forster at St Johns Newcastle. Can you say where you found Mary?
Was it on the family tree that you have and have you checked it
Let me know what you think,
Bob
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All the information I gave was researched by my Dad's sister, over 7 or 8 years ago now, so I am unable to tell you where it came from. I have only just started looking at family trees, so have not yet checked out any of the information on the trees that my Dad has passed to me.
I presume since that bit was inaccurate then none of the rest adds up! Did any of the Stephensons marry a Mary in 1810 in Newcastle?
Thanks for the reply.
Julia
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My husband's aunt (aged 90) is sure that George Stephenson was an uncle to her father (not sure how many greats in front of uncle). Her father's name was John and he came out to Australia and married in Sydney in 1870. We have no information about his birth date. The only other information Aunty knows is that John, Charles and Sarah were the 3 original Stephensons to come to Australia.
Do you have any information that might help solve the puzzle?
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I have a Stephenson brick wall...Ann Stephenson who had a daughter Mary Ann Stephenson. On the marriage certificate for Mary Ann and Archibald Harper Donaldson, it is stated that Ann is a single woman. Anyone have found any Anns who may not have married but had a child?
Sharon
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I have reread my earlier posting and John Stephenson was Aunty's grandfather (not father).
Deb
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Hi Everyone,
I'm trying to find out more information about the origins of an ancestor of mine, Hannah Stenson (born around 1837 in Gloucestershire - Coleford ?). I know she was living in the household of John Forester Stenson and Elizabeth Stenson (nee Stephenson) in Leicester from 1841 to the time of her first marriage in 1862. Her relationship to John Forester is stated as "Niece". I also know Elizabeth Stenson was the daughter of James Stephenson (the brother of George Stephenson), but I don't know how Hannah fits into the picture.
Thanks, in anticipation
Merve.
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Hi Everyone,
I'm trying to find out more information about the origins of an ancestor of mine, Hannah Stenson (born around 1837 in Gloucestershire - Coleford ?). I know she was living in the household of John Forester Stenson and Elizabeth Stenson (nee Stephenson) in Leicester from 1841 to the time of her first marriage in 1862. Her relationship to John Forester is stated as "Niece". I also know Elizabeth Stenson was the daughter of James Stephenson (the brother of George Stephenson), but I don't know how Hannah fits into the picture.
Thanks, in anticipation
Merve.
Hi Merve
Your request might be better placed on the Gloucestershire board, where Hannah's origins can be explored by locals.
Have you got either of her marriage certificates and what does she say about her father on them? Who are the witnesses?
Have you tried registering on the Forest of Dean website, which has a lot of transcribed parish registers online?
Kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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Hi Arranroots,
Thanks for the prompt reply.
I'm new to this forum and chose this thread to post because I came across the post from Eileencrimond17 where she mentions John Forester Stenson and the Stephenson connection although I appreciate that this was some time ago. Unfortunately I have no certificates for this side of the family and I am working only from internet census data and BMD info. As the first census in which I encounter Hannah is 1841 I can follow her progress forward but not backwards. I also think her DOB is prior to Sept 1837 so no help there either. I can find no reference to her origin in the IGI either. Even though her surname is given as Stenson I know it was not uncommon for children to take the surname of the head of the household and I thought it was a possibilty that she could be related to the Stephenson side through Elizabeth.
I will pursue your recommendations on the other areas to search.
Once again thanks very much and by the way this is a great site.
Regards,
Merve
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I'm trying to find out more information about the origins of an ancestor of mine, Hannah Stenson (born around 1837 in Gloucestershire - Coleford ?). I know she was living in the household of John Forester Stenson and Elizabeth Stenson (nee Stephenson) in Leicester from 1841 to the time of her first marriage in 1862. Her relationship to John Forester is stated as "Niece". I also know Elizabeth Stenson was the daughter of James Stephenson (the brother of George Stephenson), but I don't know how Hannah fits into the picture.
Hi Merve
I can give you some information about Hannah STENSON. She was the daughter of Thomas Alexander STENSON who was a brother to John Forrester Stenson. Their father was William STENSON, the Father of Coalville. William Stenson is my GGG Grandfather. Please send me an email at
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so we can exchange information. I am trying to compile all descendants of William Stenson.
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Hi all, I'm researching my family tree, and from what I have been told gowing up is that there is a connection there between our family and that of George Stephenson "The Rocket"
All the information that I have found is that one of my descendants, Towart/Towhart or similiar was married to one of the Stephensons. If anybody has ever seen a connection there, I"d be grateful to hear about it. Or even where I can find information about his descendants.
My family is from around the Northumberland area and parts of Scotland as far as I know.
Thanks,
Rebecca
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Rebecca,
" ......was married to one of the Stephensons " But which one ?
The internet is brimming on Stephenson family info.
But there were not many of them.
George born 1781 had one child Robert, born 1803, who survived to adulthood. Robert had no children, so ending that line when he died in 1859 !
Robert/Mabel had a child ? before George.
Michael
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Thanks Michael,
I don't know which of the Stephensons as of yet, I'm hoping to connect it to another family tree if I have no luck through Birth Certificates.
I shall keep hunting! Thanks for the info :)
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Yes but George had three brothers John James and Rober also a sister Eleanor. I have an extensive tree of the Stevenson family if anyone would like to see it and comment on it please contact.
Paul
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Hi
I have a tree that I am researching for a friend that takes in The Stevenson family which includes George and Robert, maybe you could have a look at it and comment?
Paul
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Your 'ph' has turned into a 'v'
The 'ph' Stephensons were 'English' engineers mainly associated with 'Railways'
the 'v' Robert Stevenson was a Scottish lighthouse Engineer
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Hello.
I am intrested in finding out more of the history of my ancestors, and anyone with any history of Goergo Stephenson feel free to email me to talk about it.
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This is my family crest. My father has a ring with this crest, and it has been in our family for a very long time. If anyone would like to find out more or discuss this, please cantact me.
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This is my family crest. My father has a ring with this crest, and it has been in our family for a very long time. If anyone would like to find out more or discuss this, please cantact me.
I could be wrong, but it is my understanding that these coats of arms and crests are passed down through the male line. Hence only a STEPHENSON would be entitled to the crest.
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This is my family crest. My father has a ring with this crest, and it has been in our family for a very long time. If anyone would like to find out more or discuss this, please cantact me.
I could be wrong, but it is my understanding that these coats of arms and crests are passed down through the male line. Hence only a STEPHENSON would be entitled to the crest.
dont be confused by the hayes part. i am coleman hayes stephenson
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I believe I am a descendent of Robert and Mabel Carr. My information is that Robert and Mabel had 6 children - James born 1779, George born 1781, Robert born 1785, Eleanor born 1784, John born 1789 and Anne born 1792. I am descended from John who (according to my records) married Grace Henderson. They had 6 children - 3 of them are John, Hannah and Annie. I am a descendent of John who married Esther Thompson. Their daughter was Annie and she married George Wootton and they are my great great grand parents.
Lyn
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Our family also has this supposed connection to George, rocket fame however have been unable to establish link. My Stephenson family lived in Duns Berwickshire from approx 1790 until 1918 which is the last known link I have been able to establish. There is a connection to the Bertram family also. Please let me know if you think there is a connection.
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Sorry I dont have any info on James Stephenson. The information I have I got from an elderly aunt who is no longer with us. I have info on James sister Eleanor who married John Wingate - their descendants were John, Jane, Edith, Minnie, Ernest, Bert and Fernly. Happy Hunting
Lyn
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I would like to see the family tree of George Stephenson if possible as I am researching my family's supposed connection to it.
Paul said he had a pretty good tree of all the Stephenson family and this would be of great interest to me. How do i go about getting it please?
Jeantee
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Hi Jeantee
Sorry I cant help you - I dont have any info on George Stephenson's line. Only that he was born in 1781 and his parents were Robert Stephenson and Mabel Carr. I would also like to see Pauls family tree - not sure how to get his email address.
Cheers
Paynt Brushes
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Hi,
I am tracing my family tree. According to my gg grandmother Euphemia Rae Amer (nee Stevenson) she is related to George Stephenson (Rocket Fame).
I would very much like to hear from descendants of the Stephenson family in the Northumberland area.
Any information that anyone can give me would be of most help.
Chezkinn
I have a marriage for John Stephenson middle name of Turner he married a Caroline Apedale at St Peters Church Newcastle on Tyne 5 Feb 1848 and it states that his father was John Darling Stephenson and i`m trying to find the connection to George Stephenson the rocket fame. Would you have anything on that. Gladys.
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Hi Gladys1
The John Stephenson who I am descended from (b. 1789 m. to Grace Henderson had six children - one of whom was John - who married a Esther Thompson. Descendants from John & Esther's daughter (Annie - my gr gr grandmother) are living in NZ. Sorry I cant help with your John Stephenson.
Cheers
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Hello Paynt Brushes thank you for your reply so i think that i will have to leave off from John Darling Stephenson now. Gladys.
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There is a pedigree of Stephenson at................
http://www.robertstephensontrust.com/page10.html
George Stephenson (Famous Engineer) had one son Robert (famous engineer) who died childless. Robert was godfather of Robert stephenson Smyth Baden Powell (founder of Scout movement) - there were rumours that Robert may have been B-Ps father.
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Thanks Jmichaeltaylor
Had a look at the tree and it doesnt agree with mine - so maybe Im not related after all.
Cheers
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The Stephenson family tree for Geo and Rbt stephenson on the Rbt stephenson Trust website was compliled by Robert Stephenson Roper (dcd) and has a great deal of research behind it - Over 40 years of contact with Stephenson's all over the world lie behind the tree and hence it is correct unless someone proves otherwise
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Hello jmichaeltaylor, thank you for kind help only i have that web site and got what i wanted. Best Wishes. Gladys.
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Hello.
It is probably some while since this thread was active.
I saw this thread when I was doing some general research on the Scottish surname Stevenson and wonder if anyone can help?
My family line came from Scotland to Northumberland via Kirkcudbrightshire and before that Ayrshire and Argyll. When looking at an Ayrshire relative on Scotlandspeople I was surprised to see that my Lindsay relative was the son of a woman called Jane Stevenson. It seems from the basic research I have undertaken that the surname Stevenson is 'uniquely Scottish'. I am aware of the famous Stevenson light house engineers but was intrigued when I noticed that George Stephenson's father ' Old Bob' was supposed to have been Scottish.
Does anyone have any information on this and importantly how and if the name was corrupted from (Old Bob) Stevenson to (George) Stephenson?
Thanks NG.
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Hey i was wondering if anyone in thr Stephenson family is still active on this thread?
I am a decendant of George Stephenson. My name is Emma Stephenson and i'm currently living in Newcastle. I do hope someone gets a notification as i would really like to chat about our family tree and try to peice things together.
Thanks!
Emma.
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Hello, and firstly my apologies for leaving you in the lurch without a reply. I am afraid have have been forgetting to check the Rootschat site for ages.
Robert Stephenson and Mabel Carr are not linked to me in any way - My Stephensons are not far away geographically, but I don't think there is a relationship. My Marmaduke Stephenson hails from the East Riding of Yorkshire, and came from a long line of farming folk. Sheep, I think.
If I learn anything else at all that helps to shed some light, I will of course let you know.
Thanks very much for writing, and once again my apologies for seeming ill-mannered.
All good wishes,
Francis Wright (direct descendant of quite a few Marmaduke Stephensons!)
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I'm new in this thread, but here goes. My second great grandmother was Margaret Stephenson (b. 1819, Wallsend, Northumberland, d. 1893). She married Andrew Robson in April 1846. Her son, James (1850 - 1862) was killed in the Hartley Coal Mind Disaster and I believe her husband was injured at the same event. And help would be appreciated.
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Hi Bob
I do remember a family bible of George Stephenson, given to the museum by my fathers Aunt. My Fathers name was Peter Stephenson and in the 1960s was told via a news paper in Durham that he was not not a descendant and a Chap called Harry was.
Harry refused to comment on his blood line or assist with my fathers research, my Grandfathers name was ironically George Wilson Stephenson and my Uncle died trying to prove a link.
There are 6 names in this Bible and so there must be thousands of descendants by now
kind regards from
Susan Stephenson