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Title: Unusual first/middle name
Post by: kevan on Wednesday 03 March 04 00:12 GMT (UK)
Hi All,
        The name is Ejester, or Edgester, or Egester. It is the first and middle names for various members of the wickham, and then Evans families. The name began in Norfolk, as far as I am aware, i.e. Egester Wickham, born about 1780 in Norfolk, somewhere, and shows up in Dunton in 1821.
       Then there is Ejester, born 1868, in Swainsthorp, Norfolk.
        Then finally, this century, I have an uncle Alfred Ejester Evans, son of Evans/Wickham born 1930's.

I am sure the variants are transcriptions rather than the original name.
Have you seen this name anywhere else?
Thanks
Kevan  
Title: Re:Unusual first/middle name
Post by: trystan on Friday 05 March 04 20:17 GMT (UK)
Is Egester a name of German origin perhaps?
Title: Re:Unusual first/middle name
Post by: Black Sheep on Friday 05 March 04 20:30 GMT (UK)
Hello Kevan,

I also found the following in the 1881 census. 1 Egesster in Kent, 2 Egesta in Kent and 2 Egeston again in kent.

Sarah
Title: Re:Unusual first/middle name
Post by: kevan on Friday 05 March 04 21:21 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the replies, both Trystan and Sarah. Can you tell me the surnames that matched these queries, Sarah? I did a blanket search for these firstnames and came up with zero results.
Thanks.
Kevan
Title: Re:Unusual first/middle name
Post by: trystan on Friday 05 March 04 21:24 GMT (UK)
The only way I suspected that it might have been of German origin is because I just used www.google.com and searched for 'Egester' and saw that quite a number of the sites were German.
Title: Re:Unusual first/middle name
Post by: Black Sheep on Friday 05 March 04 21:37 GMT (UK)
Dear Kevan,

I am using different software one is a new version the other old. The only one I am sure of is:

Egesster SHIRMER     Female Servant

SHIMER looks quite German !

Regards

Sarah
Title: Re:Unusual first/middle name
Post by: kevan on Friday 05 March 04 23:03 GMT (UK)
Excuse me for being silly, but I did a translation of one of the German pages:
 
Max Kruse
Urmel drives balloon
 
A trip to the planet Egeste becomes for professor Tibatong and its animals a large adventure. On Egeste that was not invented flies yet. And the emperor of the Egester would like to be able also once in such a way by air sails like Schusch and the Urmel. The professor gruebelt and gruebelt and comes finally on a mad idea...

So, I think the word is used in fantasy land. maybe. Amusing thought .....
I know ejester comes up with some interesting google items in English, too. I will stick to plying through the Norfolk 1861 census for the moment.
New kitchen arrives tomorrow, so I will also be off to other planets  for the next few days.
Kevan
Title: Re:Unusual first/middle name
Post by: Lalique on Saturday 06 March 04 01:03 GMT (UK)
Does anyone have the name of Luce (as a forename) in their family?
Title: Re:Unusual first/middle name
Post by: Sylviaann on Saturday 06 March 04 13:59 GMT (UK)
I don't have Luce as a forename but do have it as a surname.  I assume it is probably someone from a Luce family.  I have a Luce family from Jersey.  It will probably be a French name originally.

Unless of course it is short for Lucy

Sylviaann
Title: Re:Unusual first/middle name
Post by: Lalique on Saturday 06 March 04 23:54 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Sylviaann, but this is definitely for the men in our family and in their case it's not short for Lucy!  No french connection that we know of either.  It's a name that was handed down fathers to sons, so as I go back further I hope to find the original Luce - having an unusual name can sometimes be an advantage in this business!
Title: Re:Unusual first/middle name
Post by: Kazza on Sunday 07 March 04 00:50 GMT (UK)
Well you piqued my interest with your Luces,  so I had a quick look at FreeBMD.  I found that it is definately a more popular name at the beggining of the C19th,  almost seeming to die out towards the end.  It is much more popular in Wales,  almost all of the occurances are Welsh,  and these examples seem to be men:

Marriages Mar 1838  
Evan    Mary        Llanelly    26   606C     
Evan    Thomas         Llanelly    26   606C     
Rees    Luce         Llanelly    26   606C     
Thomas    Ann         Llanelly    26   606c     

Marriages Dec 1846  
Phillips    David        Abergavenny    26   6     
Thomas    Amy         Abergavenny    26   6     
Walker    Kezia         Abergavenny    26   6     
Williams    Luce         Abergavenny    26   6     

Annet    Luce James    ?    Farnbro    2a   62     

Walsh    Luce Bertrand         Dursley    6a   247


There are some that are clearly women,  but these tend to be outside Wales.

I don't know if I have added to any-ones knowledge,  but I thought it interesting myself.   :D

Kazza.     

Title: Re:Unusual first/middle name
Post by: pennyS on Tuesday 16 March 04 20:40 GMT (UK)
Hi

I've just received a family tree from my 2nd cousin and one of our ancestors first name is Silence. She was born in Northamptonshire in 1757.   Presumably the family were non-conformists ?  Where can I find out more info?  Any help appreciated.  

Penny

Title: Re:Unusual first/middle name
Post by: johnfw on Friday 19 March 04 00:13 GMT (UK)
NAMES ARE INTERESTING

In my family tree I have instances of recurring given middle names. One instance is the use of my paternal GG Grandmothers, mothers maiden family name as a given middle name in the next 3 generations. Also the recurrence of 3 given names being used in each successive generation. Another family branch used the given name of one member killed on the Western Front in 1916 being used over a whole spread of cousins for 2 generations. Also one branch used the same set of given names in each succesive branch which in some cases was also practised by partners families, this resulted in numerous Daniels marrying an equal number of Elizabeths over the same time frame, try sorting one family from the other.

My maternal G Grandfather changed his surname for some obscure reason at the time of his marriage in 1850, maybe to hide some past misdeed, yet continued to use the past surname as a given middle name for some of his offspring. This was thought to be so that a proof of inheritance could be established in the old country if required.

I have many instances where this pattern of naming has helped identify a family member.