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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => Topic started by: Jane Masri on Wednesday 14 March 07 15:37 GMT (UK)
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I'm looking for;
1. The baptism of George Foot. From census entries his dob varies between 1819 - 1822 & states he was born in Lymington. Familysearch is not showing anything & I can't find him on the 1841 census in the hope he was with his parents. 1851 he's unmarried & a Coastguardman at Alverstoke, Hants. 1861, 1871, 1881 & 1891 he's still a coastguard at Landport, Portsea.
2. The marriage of George Foot which would have been between 1851 & 1855 the date of the birth of his first child. It's not yet on FreeBMD but her name was Mary & she also says she's from Lymington. The marriage might have been at Lymington or Alverstoke where George was in 1851.
Many thanks,
jane
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There are a couple of George FOOTs of about the right age, not born in county, in Dorset.
The other possibility is that he was at sea, especially as he was near Portsmouth in 1851.
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Thanks for your reply Bearkat. I noticed that the FOOT name is quite a Dorset favourite but I'm sure he was born Lymington as I've just found him in the index of Registers of Seaman's Services at the TNA site & it gives a DOB of 1/2/1821, Lymington. As he was a RN Coastguard at Portsea I would assume he was land-based but he's just not showing on the 1841 :(
If anyone else can come up with his baptism, marriage or pin him down on the 1841 I'd be very grateful, if not hugely impressed ;)
jane
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Hi Jane
Two by the name of George Foot baptised in Hampshire but neither in Lymington :-\
George Foot baptised 28 Oct 1821 St Lawrence & St John, Southampton parents William & Anne
George Thomas Foot baptised 27 Jan 1822 St Mary Southampton parents John & Frances.
I wonder of George was from a non-conformist family?
As a point of interest, not all coastguards were necessarily shore based. Some where stationed on what they called portguard ships (certainly in the later 19th century). Admittedly the ships were close to port, but it still was not dry land! Many Coastguard were ex RN.
Nell
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Just checked Lymington again - there was a Foot family there at about the correct time - a Richard & Jane had three children baptised there 1815-19: Harriet, Richard & William. But no sign of George.
Nell
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Hi Nell,
Many thanks for your input, especially about the coastguards.
Bearkat had given me the information (by PM) about the two George's which I've noted & also about the NC option. Bearkat also gave me the information about this Richard & Jane in Lymington. Is your information from the pr's? It's definately a hot lead as the names, Richard, Jane & Harriet are to be found with George's children.
If your information is not from the registers any idea where I can get a look-up as I'm not in the UK?
This George Foot has a service record listed on the TNA site which gives his dob as 1/2/1821, Lymington (of course he could be telling porkie pies)
jane
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Downloading his service record from the National Archive website may give his next of kin but it looks likely that his parents were dead.
His marriage certificate, if you can find the entry, would confirm his father's name.
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1861 census RG9 640 folio 28
13 Victoria Terrace Portsea Hampshire
Richard Foot 64 Hant, Lymington Head Married Superannuater officer ?
Jane Foot 64 Hant, Lymington Wife Married
RG9 644 folio 186
Langston Coast Guard Station Portsea Hampshire
William Foot 44 Lymington, Hampshire, Head Unmarried Comm? Boatman CGS
1871 census RG10 1138 folio 53
13 Victoria Terrace Portsea Hampshire
Richard Foot 73 Lymington, Hampshire, Head Married Pensioner from Coastguard
Sarah J Foot 56 Portsea, Hampshire, Wife Married
Marriages Mar 1869
FOOT Richard Portsea 2b 516
JENKINS Sarah Julia Portsea I. 2b 516
1841 census HO107 478/11 folio 46 page 1
Coast Guard Station Lydd Kent
Richard Foot 49 Not born Kent Coast Guard
Jane Foot 49 Not born Kent
Regards
Valda
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Thanks Bearkat. There could be a UK visit in the near future, in which case I'll be ransacking the TNA for information (I have a long list :D)
I have another service record for another rellie & it doesn't give a next of kin :( Why do you say his parents were dead?
The marriage to MARY (between 1851 -1855) is yet another 'to-do' task. Not on the IGI & not on Pallots & not on Familyhistory online.
jane
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Why do you say his parents were dead?
The marriage to MARY (between 1851 -1855) is yet another 'to-do' task. Not on the IGI & not on Pallots & not on Familyhistory online.
There are very few FOOTs in Lymington in the 1841 census so his parents must have moved away or died.
Have you looked for the marriage on the full BMD index?
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Have I looked for the marriage on the full BMD Index? No, as it wouldn't give me the spouse's name, which was what I was after. But in light of what Valda has given me I'm going to look for the entry, that way I'll have a year if not her maiden name.
I see what you mean about the parents being dead or moved away!
jane
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VALDA, you're a star ;D I'm going to dive straight into that. It looks as if Richard & Jane could well be George's parents. In fact George & Mary are at Victoria Terrace, Portsea in 1881 so that's more than a coincidence that Richard & second wife, Sarah should be at the same address in 1871. Also the Coastguard connection with father & son's, George & William.
Bearkat, Nell & Valda, Hampshire Hog's RULE :D Thank you all so much!
jane
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Have I looked for the marriage on the full BMD Index? No, as it wouldn't give me the spouse's name, which was what I was after. jane
Hi Jane
Had you thought of ordering one of the children's birth certificates ? This would give Mary's maiden name so that you could check against any entry of a marriage for George.
Regards
Sally
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If Richard & Jane are indeed the parents of George, they married in Lymington in 1815. Jane was Jane Edwards.
George may have slipped the net as far as baptism is concerned. Children in families where the father was often away were sometimes not baptised for a few years, until father was home and a sibling was receiving the treatment. Alternatively, he may have been born there but baptised somewhere completely different as a result of the family moving. Just a thought.
Coastguards tended to be posted a long way from their home territory to avoid the possibility of the loyalties being divided.
Nell
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Hi Sally,
The Foot family is not my main line of research so I'm trying to make headway without forking-out money ;) but thanks for your input!
Hi Nell,
Yes, the thought struck me that maybe George escaped the baptismal net :) If Richard & Jane are his parents, which looks highly likely, it's quite possible, due to the nature of his job, George might have been baptised elsewhere. In 1841, Richard & Jane are in Kent & I found their son, William at Chatham Barracks in the same census. Anyway, we've exhausted the Lymington registers for obvious dates now to look for the least obvious ;D
Many thanks for for that marriage information, it looks like them. I'm going with this theory until proved otherwise!
NELL, do you have the dates for the baptism's of Harriet, William & Richard Foot between 1815 - 1819? Also the marriage between Richard & Jane Edwards?
Many thanks,
jane
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George FOOT was baptised in Lydd, Kent!
13 February 1842, an adult, chief boatman, son of Richard and Jane.
;D ;D ;D
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Oh you're so BRILLIANT :-* Where was that information from? As his parents were in Lydd, Kent in 1841 I think you've cracked it!!!
jane
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Well done bearkat!
Jane, details as follows:
Richard Foot married Jane Edwards 14 Mar 1815 in Lyndhurst Lymington
Richard baptised 13 Aug 1815
Harriet baptised 12 Oct 1817
William baptised 25 Jul 1819
Nell
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Thanks very much for that Nell & all your help :)
jane
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Jane - :-[ muddled up Lymington and Lyndhurst, sorry about that.
Nell
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Oh Nell :'( write 100 times, 'I shall not mis-transcribe....' ;D
Here's the biggest laugh, I wrote down Lymington in my notes, a clear case of seeing what you want to see, not what's actually there :D I don't know about you but I really sympathise with these enumerators :P
jane
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Wow just been reading all the posts.
George is Gt grandfather of my mother in law
There is quite bit of info here:-
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Coastguards/F-G.html
George married Mary Turner in Brighton 2 July 1853
I may have more info you don't have
Jane
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Hi Jane,
Ahh, another Foot researcher, great! ;)
Yes, I had found the GENUKI link you sent, it was very helpful. Also, thanks for the marriage of George to Mary, I hadn't got that.
George Foot (1821) is my 2x great grandfather on my mother's side. His first born child, Mary (1855-1934) married Richard Whyte 5/7/1881 at Portsmouth. Their second born child, Mary Ellen (Doll) Whyte ( my grandmother 1885-1955) married Raymond Bravery 7/9/1912, Portsmouth. My mother, Peggy Mary Doris Bravery 1924-1978)
I would love to hear more from you & exchange information :)
jane
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Ha that makes you 3rd cousin to my husband!
He is descended from George Edward(s) Foot born 8 Feb 1862, now from these postings I know why it WAS Edwards, his granny's maiden name
George was a private soldier 35 Regt of Foot at Chichester barracks in 1881, he goes on to marry Alice Lovegrove in September 1886 on the Isle of Wight. In 1881 Alice is servant at Lumps Lane Fort - Alice was born 1857 I-O-W.
Their son Albert Thomas Foot born 4 Oct 1898 died 1941 is my husband's grandfather.
I got a lot of info from Debbie married to a descendant of Harriet Foot born 17 March 1864 sister of George Edwards Foot
Jane
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Hi Jane,
Well, well, well, so nice to find someone researching this family, I think it's a first, for me at least :) So George (1862) was my grandmother's (Mary Whyte) uncle. I know that Mary Foot (1855) George's sister was known within the family as Polly. Did you find a baptismal record for Richard Foot? He says from census information that he was born about 1797 in Lymington, Hants, but I've not been able to confirm it, therefore do not know who his parents were. It would be nice to push it back another generation!
I have written the Foot information up in book form so I'd be glad to pass that onto you. I'll PM you my email address so that you can contact me & I'll send it on.
jane
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Better late than never hopefully -- am descended from Georges brother Richard who married Harriet Radford
Am off to Winchester tomorrow to explore info in the Hampshire Record Office.
If I come across anything that may interest you -- will be in touch again
bye
Wendymac
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Look forward to hearing from you Wendy,
Jane
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Genuki (Coastguards) has this entry:
Foot, George HAM 1819 or 1822 Lymington 1851 Alverstoke HAM
1861 Portsea HAM
1871 Portsea HAM
1881 Apparently on pension at Portsea, HAM [RG11/1152/75] Foot was unmarried in 1851. Wife: Mary, 1830 or 1834, Everton (nr Lymington), HAM; Children: Mary, 1855, Kingston, HAM; Ellen Jane & George & Harriet & Richard, 1859 & 1862 & 1866 & 1868, all Southsea, HAM; Beatrice M, 1872, p.o.b. not given.