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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cumberland => Topic started by: ladyholme on Monday 19 March 07 00:30 GMT (UK)
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Does anyone happen to have an Elizabeth Thursby born around 1782 probably in Cockermouth on their family tree? She married William Casson and they had about 7 children. I would so much appreciate help with either William Casson's predecessors or Elizabeth Thursby's, as I've hit a brick wall. Ouch :'(
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elizabeth thursby
christening - 15 DEC 1782 All Saints, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
father john thursby -
Batch No - C056002
dates - 1689 - 1812
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there is also a christening of
bette thursby on - 07 NOV 1779 All Saints, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
Source Information:
Batch No = C056002
Dates: 1689 - 1812
father also john thursby
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Thanx Jacqui123,
Much appreciated...now I think I'll have to get their marriage cert...I find it a bit of a mystery....they both lived in Cockermouth, but I rather think they were married in Beverley for some reason...unless I have the wrong Elizabeth!!! :-\ Then it's back to the drawing board. ???
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"Much appreciated...now I think I'll have to get their marriage cert...I find it a bit of a mystery....they both lived in Cockermouth, but I rather think they were married in Beverley for some reason...unless I have the wrong Elizabeth!!! :-\ Then it's back to the drawing board. ???"
I have these people on my tree too but I have never managed to find out Elizabeth's surname.
I have seen the Beverley wedding but like you thought it was unlikely, but one of the witnesses, was the Parish clerk so they might have travelled out of area for some reason.
How did you find out that William's wife was called Thursby?
Regards
B
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Sorry B but I don't seem to have any positive proof that Elizabeth was a Thursby...only distant cousins who came up with that name as a suggestion because they couldn't find any other likely partner for William Casson b.29.5.1784. I think that a marriage certificate would be a good idea (it would be a parish record though) and it could hold some excellent info. Do tell me if you find anything out as I would be rather interested. Sadly one of our 2nd/3rd cousins died last year as she has a wealth of family knowledge but I do know that like me, she was sceptical as to Elizabeth's parentage. I presume you come from William and Mary's line? I come from William's brother Thomas's line.
Regards Lyn
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"I presume you come from William and Mary's line? I come from William's brother Thomas's line.
Regards Lyn"
Hi Lyn,
Yes I do, from William and Mary's eldest son George.
Incidentally did you know ( you probably do) that the Kendal census for 1851 shows your Thomas and his family had a lodger , his cousin Thomas Thursby
b 1831 Cockermouth. I know cousin was used very broadly to cover various family connections but he was possibly the son of Thomas Thursby, b1800 Cockermouth, who could have been Elizabeth's brother. A later census shows he had a brother called Robert. There was also a John Thursby b 1791 in Cockermouth who had a son called Thomas but I think the first one is more likely.
If the 1782 birth is correct, Elizabeth's father was likely called John and she possibly had at least 2 brothers who were called John and Thomas.
So Elizabeth Thursby is looking more likely as a candidate for William's wife but that still leaves the hurdle of the marriage in Beverley. I will check the Parish registers as soon as I get chance and see what I can find out.
I will let you know if I do.
Regards
B
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There are oodles of Cassons, and it seemed to me when I was trying to hunt down parentage of "my" William Casson ( mine married a Mary Blenkinsop, and was a lot younger than yours, although I've had huge problems with him, over the years) - that all of them were called William.
But don't despair.
I managed to untangle quite a few away from my one by finding out the jobs they did - mine was a cabinet maker, and that sorted him out from the others who were shoemakers, weavers(!) and farm labourers. It's often a good idea to try and find out occupation, I found that in another of my Cumberland lot, generations after generations were cabinet makers, joiners or shipwrights.
Good luck with your search.
TY
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Yes there are oodles (very Lancashire expression?) of William Cassons! I do have a slight enigma and that is that I have a Mary Chambers b.1813 married to your William Casson first and they had a son called....William? But then I also have Mary Blekinsop married to him!! Was he married twice? Have I got the names written down here incorrectly?
I have a vague note that their son George was married to ANOTHER Mary...this one is a Hogarth? They had 8 children? Mary, Benjamin, Elizabeth, Margaret, Martha, George, Jane and Ann? I don't study other peoples lines generally as I always feel I am intruding without their consent!!! Anyway, yes I am interested and hope we can keep each other in the loop...I presume we are distant cousins and its lovely to feel less alone.
Regards Lyn
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I have "my" William only married to Mary Blenkinsop - but, as I mentioned, there were several Williams Casson buzzing around and marrying at about the same time.
Mine was a joiner throughout, and his marriage seems to have had some problems, because they are apart at at least one census, but when he dies, she is still inherits.
There are a few more William Cassons of around the right age - varying from 1812 to 1823 birthdates - who married various Marys, and often families of the two William & Mary couples get mixed and are combined.
I spent years tracing every William Casson line through all the censuses, baptisms, marriages and burials and other records to get them all sorted out - I think I may still have the files of the "wrong" Cassons all worked through, somewhere, in paper files, including the Kendal ones, but I'd have to spend a long time finding them. I'll have a potter around and see, but it'll not be quick, but I will get back to you in time. I did the same with a Fisher line, up there, some Ross people and some Newbo(u)lds, and it's a lot easier than you might feel, if you trace each line through and untangle them for yourself. (Several online trees have some really creative families!)
It'd be a whole lot easier tracing families around if they'd be a bit more imaginative in their names, wouldn't it?
I think there are quite a lot of people related to our Cassons, around -0 just I don't know many personally. Didn't think "oodles" was a very northern expression, used it all my life.
Lets all keep hunting.
TY
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Hi Again :) Do tell me if you ever find your Fisher line marrying into the Linge line!!!! Lyn
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Not as far as I've found..... yet! Anything's possible with families, isn't it?
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Yes there are oodles (very Lancashire expression?) of William Cassons! I do have a slight enigma and that is that I have a Mary Chambers b.1813 married to your William Casson first and they had a son called....William? But then I also have Mary Blekinsop married to him!! Was he married twice? Have I got the names written down here incorrectly?
I have a vague note that their son George was married to ANOTHER Mary...this one is a Hogarth? They had 8 children? Mary, Benjamin, Elizabeth, Margaret, Martha, George, Jane and Ann? I don't study other peoples lines generally as I always feel I am intruding without their consent!!! Anyway, yes I am interested and hope we can keep each other in the loop...I presume we are distant cousins and its lovely to feel less alone.
Regards Lyn
I found a William Casson who married Mary Chambers(b1813 to George Chambers and Elizabeth Woodburn). Their son George married Mary Hoggarth or Hogarth in 1856.
William was a weaver but his father also William (c1783 -1851) was a skinner born in Broughton in Furness. He left a will when he died naming all his children William, Thomas, Robert ( descibed as a soldier)
Mary and Elizabeth. He also specifies his Granddaughter Rebecca Casson who was the daughter of his eldest daughter Jane who died in c1849.
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As I said / wrote .... there's a lot of Williams Casson around!
TY
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