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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: L L on Sunday 25 March 07 04:33 BST (UK)
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I have been researching Thomas Lighton(Leighton) b abt 1792 Ireland married Elizabeth Wark b abt 1793 Ireland.
They had the following children:
Jean Lighton (Leighton) b abt 1822
Mary Lighton (Leighton) b abt 1823
Joseph Lighton (Leighton) b abt 1828
I have found Mary and Joseph Lighton on the Irish Genealogy site with birth records in the Derry Genealogy Centre. To order these would be about $40 each when I calculate the currency which is just to steep for me right now. Has anyone ordered records from there? I am assuming that their first child Jean was born in a different County as there is no record found. Will the Birth record tell me where the parents were married or any other clue as to where they came from? All I know about the parents is that Elizabeth Wark is the daughter or Henry Wark and Elizabeth Kid. Thomas Lighton(Leighton) is the son of Thomas Lighton (Leighton) and Jane Ferguson. I have no other clue as to where they were born, married, etc. Any help. suggestions or advice would be extremely appreciated.
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Since birth registration started in 1864 in Ireland it would seem as though the records from Derry Genealogical Centre would be church records- most likely baptisms.
I haven't ordered anything from Derry (the prices are far too expensive) but I have seen some of the indexing they've done of church records and was horrified.
Any idea of the area where your family lived?
I have index to Londonderry Sentinel which I could check.
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Unfortunately I have no idea. All I have known to this point was that they came from Ireland which I found out about through the 1841 census in Scotland. I have had no other clues as to where in Ireland until now, since I am fairly certain that the two Baptism reports are two of the children. From Ireland I think I have narrowed it down to Derry but from there I have no idea where. From what you have seen, would there be any clue on the Baptism records? I am also concerned as the oldest child, Jean is not listed in the records nor is the marriage. From that I can only guess that they moved to Derry long enough to have two children, or that they were there all along but the rest of the records have been destroyed? I wish I could give you more information but that is all I have.
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Will look through some notes tomorrow to see if I can narrow down the church records, etc.
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Sorry I didn't get in touch yesterday but two children off school and I was busy with them.
Checked Londonderry Sentinel index (1829-1869) and several Lighton/Leightons listed from Donnemana (Co.Tyrone) and Coleraine area but nothing that fits your details.
I wouldn't assume that the oldest child was born somewhere else just because she's not listed. Many possibilities- mis-transcribed, left out of records, name originally written wrong, baptismal (?) records started after her baptism...
There are a few Presbyterian and lots of Church of Ireland churches with records going back to 1820s, then there's Reformed Presbyterian, Congregationalist, Baptist, Methodist...(if they were Protestant).
Think you need a bit more information to find where the family might have lived. Any idea?, did they stay in Ireland?...
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I believe them to be Presbyterian. After the three children listed they had two more children in Kilmarnock Scotland. So they left Ireland between 1828 and 1832. I pick them up in Scotland as they do show up in the 1841 census there. Thomas is the son of Thomas Leighton and Jane Ferguson. Elizabeth Wark is the daughter of Henry Wark and Elizabeth Kid. Unfortunately I only know them as being from Ireland and nothing more from Death certificates. I wish I had more but that is all I have other than I have a strong suspicion they came from Northern Ireland and may have been Ulster Scots.
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I can now add the following information. Elizabeth Wark was from Farloe and the village that the church is in Ballykelly.
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The townland of Farlow (possibly meaning the outlying lake) is in the Parish of Tamlaght-Finlagan. Area= 291 acres 3 rods 35 perches. Fishmongers land. E.D. & P.D. is Myroe.
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Thank you so much. I have verified the following information on two of the children:
Baptismal Register of Tamlaght Finlagan Church of Ireland Church, Ballykelly, County Londonderry:
Baptised: 14 April 1823
Mary daughter of Thomas Lighton and Elizabeth Wark his wife of Farloe.
Here is the curious part, although there are no further births of children to parents Thomas Lighton and Elizabeth Wark , there was a record for one of the children as follows:
Baptised: 9 February 1828 in Tamlaght Finlagan Church of Ireland Church
Joseph son of Thomas Lighton and Elizabeth his wife Tombkin of Farloe.
I have Joseph's Death cert from Scotland and it lists his mother as Elizabeth Wark. The Baptism does not state Wark as her maiden name but instead "Elizabeth his wife Tombkin of Farloe". Is Tombkin a Gaelic Word, a second wife Elizabeth with maiden name Tombkin, or something else? I would appreciate any help though this confusion.
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Tombkin sounds like it might be an old spelling of Thompson. Minister could have put down wrong name- have seen it happen many times before.
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Just joined. ???
Interested in your posting re Elizabeth Wark b 1793c, Tamlaght Finlagan.
Wonder if there might be some sort of connection to my Wark's?
I am researching Alexander Wark bap 21 Jul. 1821 in Tamlaght Finlagan Parish Church, located in the village of Ballykelly.
He is the only child I have so far born to Alexander Wark b 1796c and Anne White. I have no further info on them.
Alexander 1821 married Jane McAninch 19 Oct 1847 in Macosquin Church. I have their marriage cert. ordered from Colraine Borough Council.
They moved to Glasgow between 1866 -69
Their 6th son Henry Warke was born 26 Apr 1866 in Keely, Aghadowey. I have his birth cert.
Their only daughter born in Glasgow 2 Sep 1869. Her birth certificate had date of their parent's marriage.
The Mitchell Library in Glasgow holds Poor Law Records.
They held a wealth of information on the family when they lived in Glasgow, when the family were in need of assistance.
regards
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Alexander 1821 married Jane McAninch 19 Oct 1847 in Macosquin Church. I have their marriage cert. ordered from Colraine Borough Council.
They moved to Glasgow between 1866 -69
Hi Super Nana,
I think we may be related. I have a Hugh McAninch born 1826 Ireland, and came to Scotland before 1841, then went to Canada. He had a sister Elizabeth McAninch who was in Coleraine, and also a sister Jane who was born about 1829.
Would love to hear from you,
Hannah
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Hello Hannah, thanks for your message. Have you had your DNA tested?
My 2 x Gt Grandmother Jane McAninch was born 1828c Ireland.
The Poor Relief Records for 1877 in Glasgow shows her parents as John McAninch farmer and Jane Dunsmore. Both deceased when she married Alexander Wark in 1847 at Macosquin Church, Derry, Colraine.
Jane residing at Ballyvennox , Alexander at , I think it reads, Myroe, Tamlaght.
Do you know the parents of your Hugh, Elizabeth and Jane?
Maybe your Jane b 1829c is my Jane b1828c
I have searched for siblings of Jane but could not verify any connection
I found this record
Census Substitute; 1831, McAninch John Ballyvennox MacOsquin (Cp) Co. Derry. No 38. 5 Males+6 Females.
I'll leave it at that for now,
best regards
Anne
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Hello Hannah, thanks for your message. Have you had your DNA tested?
My 2 x Gt Grandmother Jane McAninch was born 1828c Ireland.
The Poor Relief Records for 1877 in Glasgow shows her parents as John McAninch farmer and Jane Dunsmore. Both deceased when she married Alexander Wark in 1847 at Macosquin Church, Derry, Colraine.
Jane residing at Ballyvennox , Alexander at , I think it reads, Myroe, Tamlaght.
Do you know the parents of your Hugh, Elizabeth and Jane?
Maybe your Jane b 1829c is my Jane b1828c
I have searched for siblings of Jane but could not verify any connection
I found this record
Census Substitute; 1831, McAninch John Ballyvennox MacOsquin (Cp) Co. Derry. No 38. 5 Males+6 Females.
I'll leave it at that for now,
best regards
Anne
Unfortunately Hugh, Elizabeth, and Jane's parents were a John McAninch, labourer, and an Ann MacMillan. They also have another sister Martha. There is still a chance that there is some relationship between them considering that McAninch is not a common name in Ireland there are only eight on John Grenham's website, and it is the same areas [Hugh moved to Scotland then Canada, and Elizabeth had children in Ballyvennox]. Have you found Jane's death certificate? Does it list parents?
Have you seen this website? http://www.mcaninch.net/Surname/mcsurpg1.htm
Hannah
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The Poor Relief Records for 1877 in Glasgow shows her parents as John McAninch farmer and Jane Dunsmore. Both deceased when she married Alexander Wark in 1847 at Macosquin Church, Derry, Colraine.
Jane's maiden name more likely to be Dinsmore/Dinsmoor in Macosquin. Camus Juxta Bann Parish Church (Church of Ireland) is in Macosquin Parish, Coleraine registration district.
Several other marriages which list father as John McAninch- might be connected.
Maria McAninch m.(1857) James Connor
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGV8-VS4F
daughter Maria b.1865 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5PT-PZV
Eliza McAninch m.(1858) Samuel Caldwell
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGV8-6HXB
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Alexander McAninch m.(1846) Catherine Dinsmore
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGNR-Z6B
John McAninch, age 80, died 1879
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1879/06519/4878234.pdf
Not far from Macosquin-
Mary McAninch m.(1855) John McCandless
and in Aghadowey-
Martha McAninch m. Alexander Ovens and had-
Sarah (1868) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5KH-9B7
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Several other marriages which list father as John McAninch- might be connected.
Eliza McAninch m.(1858) Samuel Caldwell
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGV8-6HXB
John McAninch, age 80, died 1879
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1879/06519/4878234.pdf
and in Aghadowey-
Martha McAninch m. Alexander Ovens and had-
Sarah (1868) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5KH-9B7
That is my Elizabeth that is marrying Samuel Caldwell. There were rumours that the father John of my Hugh died in Scotland but I couldn't find anything so I came across that death for John above and thought it could be him. The Martha could perhaps be the Martha who is the other sister.
Could John McAninch have married twice?
Thanks,
Hannah
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Thank you aghadowey for your input, they sure might be connected.
Will need to search them again thoroughly, maybe get lucky this time.
I do have note of the death for John McAninch in 1879 but according to his daughters Poor Law Record both parents were deceased before 1877.
HannahR.
So the father of your Hugh, Elizabeth and Jane was Hugh McAninch.
Jane McAninch/Wark death cert in 1900 age 65 shows her parents as John McNeish, Farmer deceased. Jane McNeish, previously Carmichael. M.S. Dunsmore. son Samuel Wark the informant.
On 19 Jan 1859, Ballyvennox, Macosquin, Valuation of Tenements there is a John McIninch.
He had 8 acres, house office, land which he paid £4/10- Annual rates. County, Londonderry. Parish.
Concerning the marriage for Martha McAninch m. Alexander Ovens and had-
Sarah (1868) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5KH-9B7
They were married 14 Nov 1849, Reg Office in Colraine.
I made contact with a descendant of Martha and Alexander's in 2014.
We both assume we are connected but have failed to find confirmation.
Martha's[ b 1824c] father was John McAninch, Farmer, residing in Macosquin.
Maybe John McAninch was married twice.
Will need to some more research, see where it takes me.....
bye for now
Anne
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Hi Supernana,
The parents of Hugh, Jane, Martha, and Elizabeth was John McAninch and I thought Ann McMillan but I will have to double check where I got that information.
Hannah
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Sorry meant John not Hugh.