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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Tyrone => Topic started by: Logdore on Tuesday 03 April 07 14:57 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I am seeking information on the surnames Bird or Everton in Co. Tyrone.
I am particularly looking for information regarding William Bird Everton born c1845, formerly a farmer, then Royal Irish Constabulary and the son of Thomas Everton.
Many thanks,
David
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Hiya David,
I looked at the extracts of Griffiths Valuations of Ireland on John Hayes failteromhat.com site and found no one by the name of Everton in Ireland when the Valuation took place in the country between 1848-64.
I fared slightly better with Bird in Co. Tyrone in 1851 ... there was one listing ...
Robert Bird, Aghyaran, Termonamongan. Tyrone
Christopher
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Christopher,
Many thanks for your comments and my apologies for not replying sooner.
I am not sure if there is any connection with the Robert Bird you mention, but it seems an unusual name for Northern Ireland and could be a useful bit of information to store for later use.
Thanks again for your kind efforts on my behalf.
David
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Hiya David,
It would help if the Parish, Townland and Union was known as well as the County. It's quite possible that the names Bird and Everton may be in the Valuations but not in the extracts. I've had a look at Irish Ancestors Surname Search. It has no record of the name Everton. I only found one Bird in the extracts although the Surname Search indicates that there were five Birds in Co. Tyrone.
Christopher
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death. THOMAS EVERTON ON 17-7-1896. CO.TYRONE. RESIDENCE. CORDRUMMEDY.
DATE OF PROBATE 1897.
REGARDS MARY.
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Dear Christopher and Mary,
It would probably be helpful to explain what I know of my Everton family.
My great-grandmother Elsie Everton was born on the Isle of Wight in 1888, the daughter of William Bird Everton and Emma Jane Monger. William was a prison officer at Parkhurst Prison and the 1881 census showed him to have been born in Ireland around 1846. He died in 1894.
His marriage certificate to Emma Monger showed that his father was called Thomas.
A search of Royal Irish Constabulary records on Ancestry found a Sub-Constable William B Everton appointed to the RIC on 20/6/1867 aged 22 years (therefore born circa 1845). He was a Protestant, formerly a farmer and was a native of Tyrone. He resigned in 1872 “to emigrate”.
I found a record in Griffiths Valuation index of an Everton living in the parish of Kilskeery, Co.Tyrone.
A search of the IGI revealed that an Edward Thomas Everton was baptised on 15/04/1864 at Irvinestown, Tyrone, Ireland to parents Thomas Everton and Eliza Jane McFarland.
At this point, I employed a researcher to look for more information. He advised that the Griffiths Valuation for 1860 showed Thomas Everton renting land and buildings from an Edward Archdale in the parish of Kilskeery, Townland of Shanmullagh East and interestingly, immediately adjacent to Thomas Everton was a Susan Bird renting from the same landowner. Susan Bird was removed from the Townland Valuations in 1864 and Thomas was removed in 1872.
Registers for the Church of Ireland at Kilskeery showed that Thomas Everton and Eliza baptised the following children:
1847 John
1849 Charlotte
1851 Charles
1856 Frederick
1858 Susan
1860 Eliza Jane
1864 Thomas Edward
There was no baptism for William Bird Everton and no marriage for Thomas and Eliza Everton in the Registers.
My researcher brought to my attention the will of Thomas Everton at Cordrummedy, Trillick probated in 1897 and I obtained a copy of this from PRONI. It confirmed that Thomas had a son Fred Everton, daughters Mrs Cliff and Maria Everton, grandaughter Amelia Maria Everton, sons John, Mat and Charles Everton and daughter Susan McCarty. Will also left instructions for Fred to "pay my eldest son's widow one pound every month until her youngest child is twelve years old. Her present residence is in the Isle of Wight". This confirmed the connection between my great-grandmother on the Isle of Wight, the children baptised at Kilskeery to Thomas and Eliza and the Thomas Everton who died at Cordrummedy.
A search on the internet revealed that the school in Trillick was built on land purchased from a Fred Everton. I have also found references to Thomas and Fred Everton being grocers and Publicans in Trillick. I found a reference to a Wilkin Bird owning land at Keenogue, Trillick in 1876.
Any more information would be gratefully received. I would like to find out where William Bird Everton was baptised and whether his mother was also Eliza Jane McFarland. I would also like to find where Thomas Everton came from and where and when he married Eliza. Finally, I would dearly love to know what the connection to the Bird family is, which gave William such an unusual middle name. (William incidently gave his own son the christian name of Bird).
Thanks for your interest and help.
David
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Have a look at my web page
http://www.mccaskie.org.uk/Smith-Cavandoragh.htm to see information about the Bird family - and also access the photos link to see pics of some of the Birds ;D
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Hi mccaske
That's interesting. I'm sure there must be some connection with my Bird Everton family, as they come from the same area. I'm just not sure what it is yet.
Thanks very much for the info.
David
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Hello David,
In front of me I have the family group sheet of Thomas Everton of Trillick, County Tyrone, Northern Ireland. His wife's name was Elizabeth Jane, but no maiden name is apparent.
There is no record of William Bird Everton on this page but it lists John (1847), Charlotte (1849), Nathaniel - my ancestor (1853), Charles (1851), Susan (1855), Eliza Jane (1860), Marie (1861) and Edward Thomas (1860).
Nathaniel married Elizabeth Wilson in 1877 and their only child, William Nathaniel Robert Bird Everton was born in London Eng. Apr. 6, 1881 then emigrated to Toronto, Canada and married Margaret Morris. They are buried at Prospect Cemetery in Toronto. Their children were, my Grandmother, Elizabeth Jane (1887), Ernest (1892), Thomas (1900), Jack and Emily. (both younger)
Elizabeth Jane married Arthur Harold Woods, my grandfather on my Father's side in 1905 and gave birth to Norman Howard Woods (1908), Erwin Harold Woods (1912) and my father Gordon Douglas (1919)
Perhaps this may be the link you are seeking.
Dougie
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Welcome to Rootschat, Dougie. You aren't allowed to post details of living people or email addresses (see Posting Guidelines in Help pages) but after you've made 3 posts you'll be able to use PM (personal message) system to contact David more directly, exchange family details and email addresses.
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David,
when i was in Londonderry recently at the grave of my grandparents i had a look at the graves of those nearby as my father had told me they were somethingto do with the political troubles of the 1920's.
Sure enough the one to the right was of a man murdered in 1920, but the one to the left had no stone, however a couple of graves away was one to a Lt Bird Everton of the Dorset regiment died 1920. Son of William Bird Everton of the Isle of White.
Could the fathe be the Ex-RIC man from Tyrone who emigrated?
Hope its of some use. Can get the details from the Commonwealth war Graves web-site of the home address.
Rob
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Hello David,
In front of me I have the family group sheet of Thomas Everton of Trillick, County Tyrone, Northern Ireland. His wife's name was Elizabeth Jane, but no maiden name is apparent.
There is no record of William Bird Everton on this page but it lists John (1847), Charlotte (1849), Nathaniel - my ancestor (1853), Charles (1851), Susan (1855), Eliza Jane (1860), Marie (1861) and Edward Thomas (1860).
Nathaniel married Elizabeth Wilson in 1877 and their only child, William Nathaniel Robert Bird Everton was born in London Eng. Apr. 6, 1881 then emigrated to Toronto, Canada and married Margaret Morris. They are buried at Prospect Cemetery in Toronto. Their children were, my Grandmother, Elizabeth Jane (1887), Ernest (1892), Thomas (1900), Jack and Emily. (both younger)
Elizabeth Jane married Arthur Harold Woods, my grandfather on my Father's side in 1905 and gave birth to Norman Howard Woods (1908), Erwin Harold Woods (1912) and my father Gordon Douglas (1919)
If think this may be the link you are seeking.
Dougie
Hi Dougie,
Many thanks for getting in contact with me. There certainly appears to be a link there between our families.
It's interesting that your ancestor also had the middle name of Bird. I just wish I could find out what the connection is between the Everton and Bird families.
Kind Regards,
David
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David,
when i was in Londonderry recently at the grave of my grandparents i had a look at the graves of those nearby as my father had told me they were somethingto do with the political troubles of the 1920's.
Sure enough the one to the right was of a man murdered in 1920, but the one to the left had no stone, however a couple of graves away was one to a Lt Bird Everton of the Dorset regiment died 1920. Son of William Bird Everton of the Isle of White.
Could the fathe be the Ex-RIC man from Tyrone who emigrated?
Hope its of some use. Can get the details from the Commonwealth war Graves web-site of the home address.
Rob
Hi Rob
Thank you so much for taking the time to contact me. My mum is thrilled that you have seen this gravestone and have passed on the details to us.
Lt Bird Everton was the husband of Ethel Dore, they had been married for only 6 months before he was killed. She never married again and family legend has it that the shock of his death turned her hair white overnight. She was a much loved great aunt of my mother.
Interestingly, a brother and sister married the other’s sister and brother. Bird was the brother of my great-grandmother Elsie Everton who married my great-grandfather Archibald Dore, who was the brother of Ethel.
My mum has found out quite a lot of information, including the coroner’s report on the death of Lt Everton. These are her notes:
“Bird, a Lieutenant in the 1st Dorset Regiment was accidentally killed in Londonderry, Northern Ireland, when he was crushed between two lorries.
He was 24 years old and had been married to Ethel for only six months.
He was buried with full military honours at Londonderry City Cemetery. His widow, mother and brother (an NCO in the Dorsets) were present. His brother officers were the pall bearers and the Regimental Chaplain (Capt. Jagoe) and Rev. John McCaffrey officiated.
His mother at the time of his death was referred to as Mrs J. Jackman, of 4 Hillcrest Terrace, Hunnyhill, Newport. After the death of her husband (William Bird Everton) she had remarried.”
Regards
David
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Civil registration index lists- Bird Everton (age 30) death Apr.June 1920 Londonderry registration district volume 2 pafe 144.
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David,
Speaking to a friend in Londonderry over the holiday and without me asking he has been to the library to have a look at the old papers and found out about Lt Everton.
He is sending copies of them over to me, so if you PM me your address i will forward them on.
It appears that he was a longtime soldier, joining up as a boy even though only 30 when killed he had done 16 years, gone through the war and commissioned from the ranks.
The paper said he was attempting to put a tow rope onto the lorry as it had broke down when the second lorry moved and crushed him.
I think its indicitive of the man that having risen from the ranks he was doing this himself rather than just ordering the men to do it.
Rob
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David
There was a William Everton who served in the RIC.His service number was 33117 which fits in with his DOB.I would suggest you order his service record which is a mine of information.
Michael
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Hi Michael,
Many thanks for the suggestion, but I have already been fortunate enough to find this information.
His record shows he was Sub-Constable William B Everton appointed to the RIC on 20/6/1867, aged 22 years. He was 5' 9 1/4", a Protestant, formerly a farmer and was a native of Tyrone. He resigned on 01/02/1872 “to emigrate”.
Thanks again,
David
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Hello again David,
Like you I am still intrigued by the given names of my ancestor, Nathaniel. To continue, as per guidelines, my uncle Norman married Charlotte Ball in 1932. Their son, Norman Edward Woods was born in 1938 and passed away in 2008. His sister, Linda Anne Woods was born in 1941 and passed away in 1969.
DougieW
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Hi
I'm probably coming in too late to this conversation but I'd like to find out when the wife of Fred Everton of Trillick died. She was Mary (Minnie) Rutledge and they married in December 1918 at Badoney, near Trillick. It was a late marriage for both of them and I doubt they would have had any children. Fred died 18 Jan 1936 aged 83. I haven't been able to find out when Mary died. I've checked the NI GRO and anything else I can think of but no luck.
I'd be grateful for any suggestions?
Regards
Kessa
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Hi
I'm probably coming in too late to this conversation but I'd like to find out when the wife of Fred Everton of Trillick died. She was Mary (Minnie) Rutledge and they married in December 1918 at Badoney, near Trillick. It was a late marriage for both of them and I doubt they would have had any children. Fred died 18 Jan 1936 aged 83. I haven't been able to find out when Mary died. I've checked the NI GRO and anything else I can think of but no luck.
Is this not them?
Probate of the Will of Mary Emmeline or Minnie Everton late of Trillick County Tyrone Married Woman who died 6 February 1922 granted at Belfast to Frederick Page Everton Shopkeeper the Husband Effects £1513
Everton Frederick Page of Trillick county Tyrone merchant died 8 January 1936 Probate Londonderry 2 April to John Wilkin merchant. Effects £554 17s. 10d.
Nothing in GRONI's online database so perhaps she died outside Northern Ireland.
Added- also can't see death in England/Wales or Republic of Ireland.
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Thank you aghadowey. I had found the probate record for Frederick Everton but I couldn't find Mary's. I don't know how I missed that one but I'm so grateful to you for finding it. It's odd that her death isn't listed anywhere but I'll keep looking for it to tidy things up.
Thanks again.
Kerrie
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Nothing listed for death in Scotland either. Re-checked GRONI & Irish deaths again (Everton & Rutledge) but nothing showing. Perhaps badly mis-transcribed in the index :-\
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Yes, it looks like the certificate is not indexed under her name.
Par for the course.
Kessa