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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Devon => Topic started by: Helina on Thursday 12 April 07 20:11 BST (UK)
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I am researching the Tinney family from Plymouth.
To start with can find no record of Jessie Tinney's birth.
She was my Great Grandmother, born 1862, Moricetown, Devon, parents Peter Tinney and Mary Ann Williams. Found her marriage and am sending for a certificate but no birth.
Another puzzle her brother Alfred Peter married Alice Curtis and according to the 1861 census she had a sister called Sophia age 4 both daughters to Mary Curtis age 77???????????I've treble checked. Now there is also a niece Sophia age 40 gather she is the mother and the census has made abit of a mistake. At least I hope so.
Can somebody check a birth for Jessie, I may of just missed the entry.
Any help or information on this family would be appreciated.
helina
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Another question. Looking into the 1871 census and see that Alice age 11 is a passenger, but what does "Passenger In Ganges " mean?
helina
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Hi Helena
I wonder if this could be her birth mistranscribed as Tinkey
Jessie Tinkey
March Q
1862-Stoke Demeral
Vol 5b-Page 359
Joe
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Yes, Joe !
Looking at the index image it's Tinney :)
Could you post the census references for Curtis family you are referring to, Helina?
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Hi again
I think " Ganges " is the name of the vessell she was on board on cencus night
Joe
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She's on board the "Ganges" on census night. It is a training ship for boys and an odd place for an 11 year old girl. (see enumerator's comments for that census district)
There are 2 other Curtis on board.
Edward 16 "boy 2nd class" b. Birkenhead, Lancs
Samuel 51, married, Boatswain 1 class, Barnstaple, Devon
Perhaps she is related to one of them.
Louise
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There is also John Curtis, 22, AB, b Newton Bushel a few pages earlier
This will tell you about HMS Ganges:
http://www.hmsgangesassoc.org/frigate.html
Richard
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In 1861 Sophia is described as "Wife of warrant officer".
Is a boatswain 1st class a Warrant officer?
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Several of the children on board do seem to be related to officers on board.
(just so you have the full info, John Curtis is apparently on another vessel, the "Liberty Tender", but is in the same listing)
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In 1881 Samuel is in Tamar, Stoke Damerel, 19 Herbert St.
Samuel 61, wid, Retired Warrant officer,
Alice, 20, unm., Dressmaker.
RG11/2213
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HMS Liberty was the tender ship to HMS Ganges in 1871.
R
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Tati,
Folio 203 p 11 peice 2124
Hope this helps
helina.
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You all have been very helpfull. Will have to have a closer look who the others were on board.
What do you mean by tender ship? I'm not very navy minded.
Looks like the mother must of died between 1861-1871, need to do some more research, but can now order a birth certificate for Jessie, did wonder if Jessie was a real name.
Thanks again
helina
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What do you mean by tender ship? I'm not very navy minded.
http://www.pdavis.nl/ShowShip.php?id=1691
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship's_tender
Looks like the mother must of died between 1861-1871
Which mother do you mean?
Are you interested in your great-grandmother's sister-in-law's parents (Curtis) ie not direct ancestors - or your great-grandmother's parents (Tinney)?
The latter are in Devomport in 1871 indexed under TENNEY.
helina
Richard
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... and if you want Curtis:
1871 RG10/2290
Penryn
Sophie Curtis, 49, mariner's wife, b Devonport
Rosina Curtis, 14, dau, b Devomport
Birth Dec 1856 Sophia Rosina Curtis Stoke Damerel 5b 286
Richard
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Thanks Richard for your time. It was really my Great Grandmother Jessie that I was interested in but got carried away with the Curtis family. That what genealogy does to you.
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Hi All,
Ref reply # 9
"In 1881 Samuel is in Tamar, Stoke Damerel, 19 Herbert St.
Samuel 61, wid, Retired Warrant officer,
Alice, 20, unm., Dressmaker"
Herbert Street is slap bang in the middle of Morice Town in Plymouth.
Plymouth_Ian
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I wondered where Morice Town was, gaining information all the time. Thanks, Ian.
helina
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Thanks Richard for your time. It was really my Great Grandmother Jessie that I was interested in but got carried away with the Curtis family. That what genealogy does to you.
So do you still need any information?
Presumably you have now seen the 1871 entry for Peter Tinney, or would you like me to post it?
Richard
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Hi Richard,
Not sure about the 1871 census, found a Peter Tinney b 1819, boarder. Bottem of page torn.
helina
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Hi Richard,
Not sure about the 1871 census, found a Peter Tinney b 1819, boarder. Bottem of page torn.
helina
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RG10/2135
31 Keate St, Devonport (indexed as TENNEY)
Peter Tinney, 47, factory lab, b Devonport
Mary Ann Tinney, 48, b Tavistock
Alfred P Tinney, 11, son, b Morice Town
Jessie Tinney, 9, dau, b MT
N/Melly Tinney, 7, dau, b MT
Annie Tinney, 13, dau, b MT
Richard
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...and in case you don't have them:
1861 RG9/1456
7 Pym St
Peter Tinney, 36, pensioner RN, b Devonport
Mary A Tinney, 39, b Devonport
Annie Tinney, 3, b Morice Town
Alfred Tinney, 1, b MT
1881
20 Cambridge st, Stoke Damerel
Peter Tinney, 56, naval pensioner, b Devonport
Mary A T, 57, b Lamerton
Jessie T, 19, domestic servant
Nellie, 17, dressmaker
Alfred P Tinney has joined the RN and is on the Northumberland.
Richard
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Thanks again Richard,
Had the children and aware Alfred joined joined the navy eventually marrying a lady called Alice.
But I was wrong regarding the 1871 census entry.
Noticed Mary Ann was born in 2 different places according to the census.
helina