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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: alllegs on Saturday 28 April 07 14:27 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I have recently found information about when the McCourt family emigrated to America...
Details from the passenger list are as follows...
John McCourt, 27
Isabella McCourt, 26
Isabella McCourt, infant.
They sailed from Liverpool on June 12th 1865 and arrived in New York.
I would love to know what happened to the family whilst they were in the US.
However, they will not show up on a census as by 1868 Isabella had returned to the UK and married my great great great grandfather Featherstone Bainbridge.
A son Thomas was born in the US, where I don't know, and there is no sign of Isabella (infant) back in the UK.
I'm assuming Isabella (infant) and John may have died? And Isabella and baby Thomas returned to the UK and family.
I would love to know where in America the family went and what happened to them over there, are there death records fo John and Isabella and a birth record for Thomas? When did Isabella and Thomas return home and on what ship?
Are there any doucments which may yeild answers or not?
TIA
Legs
xxxx
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Any chance of any info 11 years on from my post?!
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Can you give any other family info that might help a search? Where in UK were they from/born?
A John McCourt was witness for the naturalization of a James McCourt in NY City, 1866.
A John McCourt, tailor, was in a NY City directory, that time frame.
A John McCourt, porter, was in a Brooklyn directory, that time frame.
Any occupation you know of for John?
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There is a John McCourt who married Isabella Thompson 1862 Durham, England registration district Auckland.
ADDED
Jane McCourt was registered Auckland Durham 1863 mothers maiden name Thompson.
So officially she was Jane
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Hello,
The family were from Durham, UK.
They sailed from Liverpool to New York on June 12th 1865.
I don't know anymore about them prior to t by this. I'm awaiting their marriage certificate which will yield more info on their fathers/occupation.
Interesting that Isabella is registered as Jane on her birth record.
Thanks x
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If you look at the image of the passenger list, there are ditto marks under Isabella's name, then a mark crossing them out, even so it still has been transcribed as Isabella infant dau.
If John McCourt was a coal miner he would have moved on from New York.
Have you determined if he was originally from Ireland or perhaps Scotland and not born England
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I may have spoken too soon about Jane McCourt, there is a death registered in Auckland in the same quarter age 0.
From the index you cannot tell who the parents are.
There is a John McCourt whose birth was registered Auckland 1864 with mothers maiden name Thompson.
He would have been an infant, but on the image those ditto marks are there again under female.
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Thank you amondg,
Either way I think Isabella had a very sad time in the 1860's. Poor woman x
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There are several records on familysearch.org that might be useful, if they are your John McCourt.
John McCourt, christening 5 February 1838, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England. Father James McCourt, mother Jane Otway.
1851 census, West Auckland, Durham, England. John McCourt, 13, b. Newcastle, Northumberland. Coal miner. Parents James and Jane. Siblings: James Mccourt, Thomas Mccourt, Joseph Mccourt, Mary J Mccourt, Edward Mccourt.
1861 census, Plawsworth, Durham, England. John McCourt, 23, b. Newcastle, Northumberland. No occupation shown; unmarried. Only mother Jane. Siblings: Sarah Mc Court, Thomas Mc Court, Joseph Mc Court, Mary Jane Mc Court, Edward Mc Court, James Mc Court.
If this is your John, and he continued to be a coal miner, he might have gone to Pennsylvania.
Fold3.com has city directories. For Philadelphia, Pennsylvania:
1867 & 1868
McCourt, Isabella, widow of John, 908 Beach (residence).
McCourt, Jane A. , dressmaker, same address.
1869, both Isabella and Jane are not listed.
I don't know if this is your Isabella.
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Today Isabella and John's marriage certificate arrived.
John was a pit man, son of John McCourt, also a pit man.
They lived at Byers Green, Durham.
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Found a birth after seeing a death in the newspaper
MCCOURT, JOHN MMN Thompson
GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in AUCKLAND Volume 10A Page 172
Durham County Advertiser 15 November 1867
At Willington-9th, John, son of the late Mr John McCourt, coal-miner, aged 3¾
Can't see anything else referring to John Snr
Amended, ***meant to add Isabella is in Willington 1881
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Thank you,
So they had baby John in Durham, he didn't die in the USA, Thomas was born in the states, John senior died in the states and John junior on returning to Durham. How tragic for Isabella 😞
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It's John's birth 1863 in England that I posted, just trying to find out more ???
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Who was Isabell's father on the marriage certificate.
1851 and 1861 there is an Isabella Thompson in Byers Green, however she is still there unmarried in 1871.
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Isabella's father's is Thomas Thompson, a blacksmith. X
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Cannot find Isabella in 1841
1851 Haswell Durham
Thomas Thompson 39 Broughton Yorkshire, blacksmith (1861 Brompton)
Jane 36 born Houghton Durham
Isabella 11 born Northallerton Yorkshire registered 1839
John 8 born Easington Durham registered 1842 as John Watson Thompson
Thomas 4 same registered 1844
Joseph 3 same registered 1848
William 9 months? same registered 1850
ADDED all have mothers maiden name Watson
Thomas Thompson married Jane Watson March 1839 Northallerton, one transcription has 20th another has 25th.
So Isabella's first daughter named after her mother.
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reply 11 has the situation summed up.
You are related to Isabella Thompson and not John McCourt but just in case the following is most likely for his parents.
1851 West Auckland Durham
John McCaurt 37 born Ireland coal miner (name as transcribed)
Jane 36 born Newcastle (widowed in 1861)
John 13 coal miner born Newcastle
James 11 born North Shields
Thomas 7 born Newcastle
Joseph 5 born Wingate
Mary J born Leadgate (1861 Marcy Jane)
Edward 8 months born West Auckland.
His mothers maiden name was Jane Otway.
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Thank you both so much. This is great x
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Apologies allegs, read your message but as it was late, just got baby John wrong in my head when I replied
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No worries at all, I really appreciate your time and knowledge xxx
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Found Isabella with parents 1841 Easington
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQBJ-VX1
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Not John but following up Thompson but taking a guess that this is Isabella's mother and Thomas remarried
24 February 1860 - Durham County Advertiser
At Brompton, on the 21st inst., aged 44 Jane, wife Thomas Thompson, blacksmith.
1861 Census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M78F-QQK
Thomas Thompson
Mary Thompson age 53 born Shotton
Isabella Thompson age 22 Northallerton
Thomas Thompson
William Thompson
Jane Thompson GDau
all children as born Haswell.
Durham online has
Baptisms Durham 1842 John Watson Thompson born 1842
Haswell in the parish of Easington
Thomas as of Brompton as amondg said