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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: Fisherman on Tuesday 08 May 07 20:19 BST (UK)
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I have found a Joseph Christopher Sockett, 474426 12 Ba., London Regiment, who died 9-9-1917 age unknown. He is obviously one of my lot but I cannot find a birth record for him or any sign of him in 1901. To confuse matters there are two other Joseph Christophers around at this time , my grandfather (b1874) who was in Hereford and one born 1910.
This is the first military death I've come across so I don't know where to look for his records. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Fisherman
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Hi
According to SDGW, Joseph' details are as follows:
12th City of London Battalion (The Rangers)
Name: Joseph Christopher Sockett
No: 474426
Rank: Rifleman
Born: Holmer
Enlisted: Hereford
Residence: Hereford
Died: 09/09/1917
How: Killed in Action: France and Flanders
Formerly: 1576, R.A.M.C., T.F.
Hope this is of help. Perhaps he can't be found on the 1901 Census as he might have been serving abroad.
Here is his medal card which you can download for £3.50
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ii/
A visit to the National Archives at Kew could provide more information of army records.
Once you download his medal card, you could post it here where someone can hopefully give you more information.
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From memory there was a William Henry Sockett running the Swansea House of industry in the early 1820s. Any relative? He left a printed account of how he ran the place at the Swansea Museum.
Bernard
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Atom,
That is fantastic. I had an idea that there was a Hereford link.
I will download the medal card this evening.
Thank you
Bernard
Yes, Henry was the defence barrister for Dick Penderyn. There is plenty of info regarding his time in Swansea, but he left under a bit of a cloud and his life is a bit sketchy until his death in Bath in 1848. I am yet to find him in 1841.
Thank you both
Fisherman
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From memory the pamphlet is partly an attempt to dispel rumours that he had fiddled the books!
He was appointed 'visitor' in 1818 and carried out that role for 14 years; during which time he singularly failed to submit any accounts!
Bernard
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I will download the medal card this evening.
Thats good Fisherman,Look forward to seeing the MIC.
Anne
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His medal card - not much info on it.
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Well Fisherman!
Not a lot to go on with the MIC. However he did get two medal as mentioned the Victory and the British medal.
He was not in France and Flanders before January 1916, but that is not to say that he was not participating elsewhere.
The roll number along with the page number is handy if you ever decide to visit TNA to look up the roll and perhaps find out more information on your man.
If you do get a chance to visit Kew, it would also be worthwhile to check-out the War Diary of the 12th City of London Bn (The Rangers) for a synopsis of the events/battle going on at the front around the time he died.
Anne :)
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Hi Anne,
I might be on his trail.
I have a Joseph who would have been 22 at the outbreak of war.
He was living in Homer, Hereford in 1901 and his parents say he was born there. The only birth registration for a Joseph in 1892 was in Cannock Staffs.
I've sent for the cert in the hope that the parents match up.
I have been told that his parents might have added Christopher at his baptism.
Chris
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Chris, have you thought about this one (possible spelling error) ???
Birth registration Joseph Christopher SACKETT in the March quarter 1892 Hereford registration district ref. 6a 460 (the ref. might need checking as middle digit not quite clear)
Casalguidi
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Casalguidi,
Thanks for that. Just off to check it out.
Chris
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Casalguidi,
It must be him ;D ;D It must be a spelling error as you said.
I checked 1891 & 1901 and there are no Sacketts in Hereford - it must have been that Shropshire/Herefordshire accent ;D
A bonus - in 1891 I found another part of the family mistranscribed as Sackett in Shropshire.
Thanks
Chris
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Yes, I would think it's likely to be him then :)
Casalguidi
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Chris
That's great news that you are now hot on the trail with Casalguidi's great find.
Best of luck, and keep us posted
Anne :D
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Hi Anne,
I will.
I'm going to phone Hereford in the morning to check that parents are correct before I order the cert.
Thanks to you and Casalguidi from only having a name from CWGC I now know quite a lot about Joseph Christopher and he no longer "Died Age Unknown"
I will let you know what Hereford has to say.
Chris
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Hi Fisherman :)
Although these are a bit earlier then your search date, the Sockett surname ( exact spelling ) is listed 21 times in the Hereford Registers,
Shropshire: Alberbury - Parish Registers, Hereford Diocese
19 Feb 1663 Marie, d. of Richard Sockett bap.
04 Apr 1736 Richard, s. of John & Mary Sockett bap.
25 Jan 1763 Richard Sockett bur.
Chirburn Darish Begisters.
12 Mar 1745 Mary, d. of Robt. & Martha Sockett bap.
Church Stretton Darish Begisters.
13 Jun 1803 John Sockett & Margaret Rogers. Wit: Ann Hammonds, Richard Burley.
Shropshire: Worthen - Parish Registers, Hereford Diocese
07 Apr 1674 Tho., fs. Robertíj Sockett bap.
02 Jun 1683 Roberti Sockett et Anne Gittins, matr. fu't copulati conjuncta est.
23 Oct 1703 Maria, f. Richardi Sockett, de Hope, agricolae, et Annae uxoris ejus bap.
10 Sep 1710 Robertus, f. Ricardi Sockett et Anne ux' bap.
01 Apr 1738 Elizabeth, d. of Robert & Eliz. Sockett bap.
04 Apr 1774 Anne Sockett bur.
23 Oct 1788 Elizabeth Sockett, pr. bur.
04 Dec 1767 John Dicken & Sarah Dyass, lic. By John Hawkins, Rector. Wit: Robert Sockett.
Shropshire: Pontesbury - Parish Registers, Hereford Diocese
12 May 1803 Robert Sockett & Martha Hincks. By John Jones, Curt. of Habberley.
Shropshire: Westbury - Parish Registers, Hereford Diocese
14 Oct 1681 Roben Sockett bur.
17 Apr 1684 Richard, s. of Robert Sockett & Anne bap.
25 Apr 1686 Robert, s. of Robert Sockett & Anne bap.
27 Nov 1693 Richard Sockett, p. Alberbury, & Grace Arpin, p. W. mar.
03 Jan 1716 Robert Sockett bur.
02 Sep 1729 Benjamin Sockett, p. Pentesbury bur.
Liber Registri de Parochia Stokesaie in Quo Matrimonin' Coniunctorum Baptisatorum et Sepultorum Anno Domini 1558 Conscribuntur Per Will'mum Maund Vieariu' Ib'm.
[On the fly-leaf:] Yf thou be poore yet patient byde for to thyne ebbe may turne a tyde And at full sea keepe water store that afterwarde you want noe more.
A man intime fil high may clime if fortun
18 Jul 1822 John Yates & Ann Price, p. Onibury Wit: William Sockett, Mary Amett
Best wishes
Pete :) :)
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Hi Pete
Thanks for that.
I've got back as far as Elizabeth 1738 (Worthen) and her parents so the information will help.
Thanks
Chris
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Anne & Casalguidi,
I contacted Hereford Registry Office today and they confirmed the surname as Sockett not Sackett as the GRO has.
So he fits neatly into the tree. I hope that I can get all his records changed to match the facts.
Thank you both very much for your help.
Chris
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One problem ;) When I downloaded his medal card there were 5 other family members on the same sheet 4 of whom I can't identify. So I will probably be crying for help again.
Chris
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Good stuff chris, Lucky you :D, getting two for the price of one on the MIC, with the possibility of finding some more due to your unusual surname ... that'll should keep you busy for a while. 8)
Anne :)
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Birth Certificate arrived today so I can now prove Joseph Christophers details to the CWGC and GRO.
Thanks to all who helped
Fisherman
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Brilliant news ;D
Casalguidi :)
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Hi all. I'm afraid I might be a few years to late, but Joseph Sockett was my grandfather's uncle. I would like to talk to "fisherman" and find out how we are related, rather intrigued. If fisherman is still about and would like to know anymore information we have a few interesting facts. We have a letter he had penned to his wife during the war before he lost his life in battle. The letter is also published online if you search Joseph Sockett Hereford Times. If anyone can help it would be rather appreciated.
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Hi Con95
Welcome to Rootschat.
If you post twice more ( just say "Hi Thanks" ) then the personal message system opens up for you.
"Fisherman" will then be able to message you and you will be able to reply.
[ Fisherman has been online today :-) ]
RegardsRay
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Hi
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Thanks Ray much appreciated
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No problem!
You can now send Chris (Fisherman) a message.
Go on try it. :-)
R
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Cheers buddy I will do