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Family History Documents and Artefacts => Family Bibles => Topic started by: charley101 on Wednesday 09 May 07 12:57 BST (UK)
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I have recently inherited from my stepmother a family bible for the Hamer family (her mother was Ethel Louise Hamer b 1904 d 1966)
The Hamers are originally from Stokesay Parish, Clunbury and Clun in Shropshire (I also have a handwritten family tree prepared by my stepmothers Uncle, tracing back to Richard Hamer b 1705, Clunbury).
The earliest entry in the in memorium pages in the bible is for John Hamer, b 30.3.1838, who died 20.1.1872 in the South Africa diamond fields. The surnames on the page switch to Garnett (my stepmothers grandmother).
I'd be really happy if I could return this bible to a blood descendent of the family - please contact me if you are one, want more info, or can help trace someone who is....
Cheers
Dave
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Hi Dave,
Is there any reference to where the members of the Garnet family were born? I have James Garnet...he was my GX4 Grandfather....his father was also a James. They were born about 1770 and 1750, but that is very approximate and around the Lancs areas.... Lyn :-\
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Hi Lyn.
The references to Garnetts in the bible are as follows
- Isabella Garnett d 13.11.1900, Norwood
- Maria Garnett d 24.4.1914, Norwood
- Frederick Garnett b 22.10.1886, d 27.7.1959, Torquay
Other papers I've inherited refer to
- Charles Garnett d 12.5.1928, Wallington, Surrey
- Ellen Garnett d 26.5.1950, Hove, Sussex.
Doesn't look like there is a connection with your tree, unless you know differently...
Cheers
Dave
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:'( Thanks Dave, I think you are correct. Although the name Isabel come down the family from the Garnetts...it also comes down through many families. If these Garnetts are related to me it would have been after the family left my line. It would be lovely to find I have lots of Garnett distant cousins, but good luck with your search. I will make a note of the names, dates and places on the slim chance I find where they fit in. Thanks again. Lyn
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Hi, just joined and noted your post about the Hamer bible. My wife's mother was a Hamer, and sadly we lost a lot of history when the family bible went missing. Is there any chance you could email me a copy of the Hamer family details you have? It would be greatly appreciated. ..
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Hello Peter
Sorry for the delay in replying. I don't use RootsChat much at all these days!
Can I ask how you are related to the Hamers to make sure we are talking about the same line. My stepmother is Patricia (nee Longmead), daughter of Ethel L M Hamer (1904-1966) and William Longmead (1899-1975) and granddaughter of Ernest Tindall Hamer (1870-1939, died in Dearborne USA) and Eliza M Privett (1870-1904).
I have a tortuous family history of my stepmother's Hamer line available, full of marriages and remarriages and people with the same name (Especially Maria). All very confusing.
I'm happy to send you what I've got as an attachment if can first you let me know the connection (for obvious reasons)
Dave
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Hi Dave,
I don't know too much sadly.
My wife's mother (Gladys) is a Hamer. Her father's name was William (born 1905 approx in South Africa), and apparently his father was also a William (born 1877 in Old Malthouse, Wales). His father was named David Hamer, born circa 1840. Strangely, my mother in law believed that William Hamer was born in Australia, so there is a bit of confusion.
Regards,
Peter
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My wife's mother
(Gladys) is a Hamer.
Her father's name was
William (born 1905 approx in South Africa),
and apparently his father was also a
William (born 1877 in Old Malthouse, Wales).
His father was named
David Hamer, born circa 1840.
Strangely, my mother in law believed that
William Hamer was born in Australia, so there is a bit of confusion.
Hi Peter
Don't know if you have access to census records but here's the 1881 census entry
for William born 1877 with his father David Hamer address Old Malthouse
RG11; Piece: 5497; Folio: 76; Page: 4
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WS-WWLQ
There is a baptism at Berriew Montgomery for
David Hamer 19th April 1840 parents Richard occ Lab. & Mary
1851c https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGD9-VTL
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Did David HAMER marry Elizabeth PARRY 1860 Montgomery ?
GRO indexes give mmn PARRY for the following children
HAMER, WILLIAM
1877 M Quarter in ATCHAM Volume 06A Page 721
This looks to be David with wife and children 1871
David Hamer born Berriw with wife Elizabeth & 5 children
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V518-Z4C
HAMER, DAVID
1861 J Quarter in MONTGOMERY Volume 11B Page 253
HAMER, RICHARD
1863 M Quarter in MONTGOMERY Volume 11B Page 240
HAMER, JOHN
1865 J Quarter in MONTGOMERY Volume 11B Page 255
HAMER, GRIFFITH
1867 S Quarter in MONTGOMERY Volume 11B Page 246
HAMER, HENRY
1870 J Quarter in MONTGOMERY Volume 11B Page 246
Do you know who William Hamer bn 1877 married and when he left for SA or Australia?
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Thanks for that, but no, that's the extent of our knowledge!
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Thanks for that, but no, that's the extent of our knowledge!
What about starting with your mother-in-law's b/c
her b/c should give her father's occupation and her mother's maiden name
then moving onto her parents marriage
this m/c should give occupations of father & son
Have you found William Hamer born c1877 on the UK 1891/1901 census?
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Peter
There isn't an obvious connecetion between your tree and the one that my stepmother is part of. However her Hamer family tree is full of lines (i.e. children) that we haven't followed through so there may be a connection somewhere with the line you are following.
I've attached on the public part of this site a pdf copy of the main lines of the Hamer family that I am connected to via my stepmother. What you'd be looking to do is plug your line in somewhere, not sure where 'though.
I'm also going to send you via private email on this site a copy of the write up I did for my stepmother about the Hamer family tree. I hope you find it interesting, even if you don't manage to make a connection to it. Very interesting bunch of people the Hamers....