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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Renfrewshire => Topic started by: Helen K on Saturday 12 May 07 15:39 BST (UK)
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Could someone please tell me the correct pronunciation of Eaglesham?
Is it Eagles ham?
or Eagle sham?
or something else?
Regards
Helen K
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Hi Helen
The pronunciation is Eagle sham
Anne
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Thanks Anne
Much appreciated
Regards
Helen K
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I beg to differ: Eagle sum is how my rellies pronounce it!
kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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was trying to be polite...lol
I suppose it would be sort of
Eagleshum
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Well, definitely an "sss" rather than a "shhh" in the middle, anyway!
;D ;D
(could be that they need new teeth, lol!)
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Definitely never a "shhh" in the middle. On those rare occasions when I go home to see my mum and then go out, that's one way in which (after 15 years absence) I can still pick out the incomers and strangers in the pub ;D .
After being spelt Egglesham when it first appears on record in 1161 (not 1157 as often wrongly quoted) it was more or less consistently spelt Eglisham and Eglishame until the mid 1700s when most writers switched to Eaglesham or Eagleshame. However in the 1680s an "ignorant" soldier in despatches neatly summed up even the modern pronunciation by writing "Eglesum".
Except in my mum's "telephone voice" (when it ends in "ham" not "um") Arranroots has it down to a "t" (so to speak)...
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Maybe its my Ayrshire accent...lol
I am from Kilmarnock and I have always pronounced it as
Eagleshum... lol
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Raven-Anne - that must be it!
I'm in danger of getting off topic (moderator please note it's geographically near to Eaglesham and I can't see a way to cross-post into Ayrshire!) but out of interest how would you pronounce Moscow (Ayrshire)?
I was always brought up to say Moss-cow, but recently read somewher that it actually was named after the Russian city after Napolean's 1812 defeat...
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Hi Dahlboy
Well I pronounce it as
Msscow or Misscow
It was not far from where I was born... I lived in a little village called Crookedholm...
Anne
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My father once worked in the Eglinton Arms hotel in the 50s and quoted to me a local saying:-
"There are no shams in Eaglesham."
He pronounced the word as "Eaglesum"
That's all I've got.
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My aunt and uncle used to live at Crossroads, Moscow, and they told me it was pronounced Mosscow but I was told that a long, long time ago, so I may be misremembering!
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I live very close to Eaglesham.
I have always pronounced it as: Eagles - Ham
I have ancestral relatives who married in Cambuslang in 1835 but emigrated to Australia in 1841.
This couple were married for more than 60yrs but on their diamond wedding anniversary, their very grown up children, placed an Anniversay notice in the Australian Newspaper.
They had never lived in Cambuslang, apparently had no idea how it was spelled and referred to it exactly as their would have parents said it.
It states that their parents married in Cumslang Manse
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A celebrated well in Cambuslang called the Borgie? gave rise to the saying, "A drink o the Borgie, the taste o the weed, puts aw the Camslang folk wrang in the heid!" ;D
Skoosh.
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;D ;D @ Skoosh
I forgot!
My relative in OZ was well educated and amongst other things he was the speech writer for a well known politician of the era.
Educated or not, his children ( none born in Scotland) seemed to know that he was born in Ruglen and married in Cumslang. LOL