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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Aberdeenshire => Topic started by: genjen on Saturday 04 December 04 16:32 GMT (UK)
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I am researching: Howe ( Aberdeen), Raitt (Belhelvie/ Old Machar), Milne (Lonmay/ Rathen/ Aberdeen), Daniel( Cruden), Hay (Cruden), Birnie ( Strichen), Crichton (Methlick), Alexander (Cruden/ Peterhead) Robertson (Cruden) Jaffrey ( Belhelvie)
Also: Shaw, Forsyth, Smith, Duncan, McBeath ( all from Nairnshire/ Morayshire
Would love to hear from anyone with links to any of these families.
Jen
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Hi Jen,
I also have links to the Hay family from Cruden, in the 1881 census for Cruden
I have a large family of Hay's living in Whinnyfold, Cruden. Also in the 1891 census for Cruden I have my G. Grandfather James Hay and his wife Mary Ann Hay (summers) living at 121 Pleasant Cottage. If any of these are linked to your names
I would be interested in hearing from you.
Merry Christmas
Don
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I've been researching my Aberdeenshire Forsyth's for years and note that the name is one of your interests. Even if we're not related, I have a few Forsyth resources for the area, such as census, old civil reg, monunent inscriptions, etc.
My gggrandfather James b.1850, (son of Robert Forsyth b. 1816 & Margaret Anderson) emigrated to England c1875 from where his son Thomas b. 1886 emmigrated to Canada c. 1911.
Robert's parents were James Forsyth b. 1785 & Helen McConochie & his grandparents were William Forsyth b. 17?? & Ann McPherson.
Parish residences include Rhynie & Essie, Tyrie, Longside, Udny & Kincardine O'Neal.
In any case, provide me with some ancestor's first names & b. dates & I'll check my files for connections as they contain hundreds of siblings, cousins & unrelated Forsyths.
Jack :)
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I also have Forsyth ancestors but they seem to be in the Ellon area
Please let me know if you think there is any connection and if you want more info.
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Hi Jen,
I have Jaffreys and one Raitts (so far!) in my family tree. I have Mary Raitt married to Robert Russell in Aberdeen - no date but they had a daughter in 1827.
As for the Jaffreys, mine are from Leochel Cushnie (Aberdeenshire), not Belhelvie but there might be a connection somewhere along the line. I have Jaffreys going back to 1738.
Lindsay
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I don't have a Mary Raitt married to Robert Russell - at least not yet. Looking at the dates, she may have been the sister of my 4th great grandfather, William Raitt. I'll have a hunt and see if I can find anything about her.
Margaret Jaffrey, married to James Martin, 1778, Belhelvie, was a 5th great grandmother. That's all I know about her so if you have anything which may help, please get in touch.
Cheers,
Jen
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Hi Jen I have some information on a Milne family from Rathen and I also have Birnie in Rathen as well. There might be a connection with your family, i live near Rathen and can look up local records if you are needing any help, I can visit local graveyards, I have alot of information from censuses. Just let me know if i can be of some help all the best with your research LesleyJ
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Hi,
I have had huge difficulties with my Milne line. My 3 x great grandfather was Joseph Milne, who was the son of John Milne and Christian Mitchel. He was born in 1815 in Lonmay and married Jean Birnie , in 1840 in Rathen. Jean Birnie was the daughter of John Birnie and Barbara Walker and was born 1823 in Strichen. By the time of the 1841 census, Jean Birnie, using her maiden name, was living with Joseph Milne's parents and her infant son, also Joseph. Of Joseph senior there was no sign. By 1851, Jean is remarried to Samuel Farquhar and has several more offspring. I have tried, without success, to find any details of Joseph Milne's death or burial.
If you could help to solve this problem by looking at parish records, I should be hugely grateful.
In the 1841 census, the Milnes and Jean Birnie were at Cairnglass/ Cairness ( not sure which it is)Lonmay.
Thanks,
Jen
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Hi Jen got the MI for Lonmay, stone 228 Joseph Milne d 18/4/1838 could this be Joseph Milne you are looking for I will have to give you the rest of the details later, all the best LesleyJ
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No, I've seen that one, but mine got married in 1840 so unless there was some kind of miracle, it can't have been him.
I suppose it may be worth checking further, but I'm sure the marriage date is 14th june 1840, at Rathen.
Regards,
Jen
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Hi Jen,
Ref your Milne line hopefully Aberdeen have a look at this site, click on Family tree then the letter M, scroll down to Milne name. You may be lucky with it. I am having problems with my computer at the moment and when I click on Family tree it will not take me there so I cannot have a look for you.
I am connected to Alexander Fraser Milne who married Agnes Stephenson.
www.dmackenzie.dsl,pipex.com/
Good luck
Tom
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Sorry the comma between dsl and pipex should be a dot.
www.dmackenzie.dsl.pipex.com/
Tom
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My family is from Aberdeen, I don't know if they connect though.
Catherine Duncan Greig
b. 4 DEC 1862 Ellon, ABD, SCT
d. 1 APR 1924 Ellon, ABD, SCT
Parents:
Father: Alexander Greig
Mother: Jane Nees MacRitchie
Family:
Marriage:1881
Spouse: Richard Milne
b. 7 DEC 1860 Udny (Skillmafilly Cottage), ABD, SCT
d. 3 SEP 1934 Ellon, ABD, SCT
Parents:
Father: William Smith Milne
Mother: Elizabeth Charles
Children:
George Gregory Milne
Richard Milne
James Milne
Alexander Milne
Elizabeth Jean Milne
William Ino Milne
b. 1893
d. MAY 1993
William Charles Milne
Margaret Ann "Madge" Milne
Mary Bella Milne
Catherine Milne
Barbara Laing Milne
A good site is: http://www.phlomis.plus.com
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I have a Catherine Birnie (died aft. 1895) married to a William Park. Their son Charles Park (b.1867) married (Dec 1895) a Margaret Cowie (b.1876) in North Craighill, Strichen. Their son a Charles Park (b.1897) born in Sandhole, Techmuiry, Strichen. He married (Jun 1925) a Mina Ross Findlay (b.1897) in Ban-Car, Lonmay.
I also have a few Milne's (George, Robert, Elsie Sheriffs, Elspet, and others) mostly around Insch and Premnay, in Aberdeenshire.
I also have Duncan's but mine are from Tarves.
I have Smith's from Kincardine and various spots around Insch, Kennethmont, Huntly, etc.
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Hi Jen........I've got links to Crichton / Crighton plus Raitts in Aberdeenshire.....please give more details.
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I have lots of links to Aberdeen, but none of my names are on your list. :(
BD
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Hi,
I have 3 x great grandparents James Raitt and Christian Chrichton ( spelling variable) who married in New Machar, 1832. Their youngest daughter, Jane Raitt ( b 1849) had two illegitimate children, Peter Grant Raitt ( 1870) and James Raitt ( 1873)
Peter Grant Raitt was my great grandfather.
I know that James Raitt snr was the son of William Raitt and Margaret Martin. I have more on the Martin line but nothing further on the Raitts except that they came from the Belhevie area.
Christian Chrichton was the daughter of William Chrichton and Mary Brechin or Briken.
I can take the Chrichton line back three more generations to a William Chrichton who must have been born around 1700 as he had a son who married in 1749.
Does any of this match up with your family?
Regards,
Jen
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Yes, indeed. I'm very interested as there are definite connections. How can we communicate offline? I'm new to this site. zil.
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You can e-mail me at: Email removed by Moderator to prevent email spamming - please use the Personal Messaging system to exchange personal information - thank you!
I'd love to hear from you and to know what your connections to my Raitts and Chrichtons are.
Cheers,
Jen
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Hi Jen
>Margaret Jaffrey, married to James Martin, 1778, Belhelvie, was a 5th great grandmother<
I also have a connection to this couple through son James, born 1785 (ref: OPR's)
As well as a daughter Margaret born 1781 (ref: OPR's) I have recently found the death of another daughter.
She was Jane, born about 1780 and died 20th June 1855 aged 75yrs at Belhelvie. She can be found in 1841 at Peterhead and in 1851 at Belhelvie - if you'd like the details let me know.
As you probably already know James MARTIN married Christian HARVEY June 1815 and went on to have at least 4 children. There is an MI at Belhelvie dated 6 Dec 1833, which I believe may be Christian as she was not present for the 1841 Census.
I've drawn an absolute blank with Margaret JAFFRAY - I wonder if you've been more successful?
Looking forward to hearing from you
Regards
Helen K
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Hi,
This is what I have on James Martin and Margaret Jaffrey. I believe it is correct but if you find any errors, please let me know.
James Martin - born March 1750, Belhelvie ( I have 8th March as the date but not sure whether that is birth or baptism). He was the son of James Martin and Margaret Seymour ( married 4th November 1740, New Machar), who also had offspring Margaret, John, Joseph and Jean.
Margaret Jaffrey ( Or Jaffray) 8th Oct 1751, Belhelvie. Parents were William Jaffrey and Jean Laurenson, married 16th June 1747, Logie Buchan. They had other offspring - Jean, Agnes, William, Agnes, John and Robert.
Jean Laurenson ( spellings vary), 5th May, 1717, was the daughter of George Laurenson and Janet Murdo, married 26th June 1716, Logie Buchan. They also had Janet and Agnes.
That's as much as I can tell you about these people. I did have the James Martin/ Christian Harvey information and I have their offspring as Margaret, James, Mary and Christian. Does that match with what you have?
Regards,
Jen
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Hi Jen
Thanks for that - you've given me some very useful information to work with.
Regarding the children of James MARTIN and Christian HARVEY, I have only found those four also.
A Belhelvie MI states Christian HARVEY died 6 Dec 1833.
James MARTIN, the father, died 17 Mar 1859 aged 73yrs. His Son in Law Peter MATHESON was the informant. Peter married Margaret MARTIN 4 Sep 1847 in Foveran according to the OPR's.
Daughter Christian MARTIN married James HARVEY 26 May 1850 in Belhelvie and had 9 children that I know of - the second of which was William HARVEY born 1856 Old Machar, my Great Grandfather.
James MARTIN, the son, is last recorded in 1861 boarding with his sister Christian HARVEY and family at Greenden, Belhelvie. Christian and husband James HARVEY must have moved there from Old Machar after the death of James MARTIN the father. James HARVEY was a Salmon Fisher, but in 1871 is recorded as a Farmer of 12acres.
James MARTIN, the son, I believe died 21 May 1867 according to a Belhelvie MI., but I don't yet have the death certificate.
Daughter Mary MARTIN was still with her father in 1851, an unmarried 29yr old House Servant. I've not yet looked into what happened to her after this.
How are you connected to the HARVEY/MARTIN families?
Thanks again
Regards
Helen K
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Hi,
James Martin and Margaret Jaffrey were my 5 x great grandparents. Their daughter, Margaret Martin, married William Raitt in 1807, Belhelvie and it is really the Raitt line which is my direct one. My great grandfather was Peter Grant Raitt, born 1871, Aberdeen.
So my link with the Harvey branch is very distant ( apart from the fact that I live with one now, but that's a different story!)
But I do like to fill in the gaps so thank you for your information, I shall add it to my tree.
Cheers,
Jen
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hi genjen,
do you have any more details for your Raitt line? I only have Jane Raitt born 1791 in Aberdeenshire. I have no other details for her except she was married to Robert Russell and they lived in John Street, Aberdeen in the 1841 census.
Do you have a Jane that would fit this description?
Thanks,
Lindsay
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Hi,
I'm sorry, I don't have a Jane who would fit this description. The only Raitt I have born around this time is William who was born 1783ish in Belhelvie. I suppose it is possible that he and Jane were siblings but at the moment I have no way of proving that.
You say you have Jane in 1841; I presume that means that she died before 1851 and therefore before registration began.
Do you know where and when she married Robert Russell?
I would be very interested in knowing more about her, especially if it turns out that there is a link to my William.
Sorry I can't be of any more help.
Jen
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I also have links to the Hay family from Cruden, in the 1881 census for Cruden
I have a large family of Hay's living in Whinnyfold, Cruden. Also in the 1891 census for Cruden I have my G. Grandfather James Hay and his wife Mary Ann Hay (summers) living at 121 Pleasant Cottage.
My great-grandmother was Catherine Hay (1867-1900), of Whinnyfold, Cruden Bay, daughter of Andrew Hay and Jane Finnie/Findlay. She married Archibald MacDougall in Peterhead, 1891.
One of ten, she had a brother, James, born 1862. He disappears from the Whinnyfold household in the 1891 census, though a James Hay re-appears in that same census year at Pleasant Cottage.
It would be interesting to know if your great-grandfather is the brother of Catherine, and thus my great-great uncle.
Kind regards,
Alex
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Hello Alex,
Yes you are correct, the James Hay I mentioned and your Catherine Hay are brother and sister, James Hay married a Mary Ann Summers in 1883 in St. James' Church, Cruden, she was a servant in one of the Hay's houses in the 1881 census, and then later on they were living in Pleasant Cottages where my Grandmother was born, sorry for the delay in getting back to you, if I can help with any other information about the Whinnyfold clan let me know and I will answer more promptly.
Yours
Don