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Title: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: andrew boynton on Saturday 19 May 07 11:25 BST (UK)
I researched my family tree all the way back to two people jacob jenkinson and elizabeth gambles. I found out they lived in hatfield woodhouse , i found out elizabeths parents were moses and harriet gambles but i can't find any more information about jacob jenkinson born in 1832. How can i find more information about him like who his parents were?
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: Necromancer on Saturday 19 May 07 11:45 BST (UK)
Found a Marriage Index entry ?

That would give Jacob's Fathers name and occupation and help zero in on him in the 1841 census.

He doesnt seem to be in Notts however .... could of course be a total mistranscription ...
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: Necromancer on Saturday 19 May 07 11:48 BST (UK)
In 1861 its spelled Jenkins and he was born Hatfield Woodhouse - they are enumerated in the Parish of Finningley, Notts.

So he's a Yorkshireman.

Oldest child is 7, born Finningley, so look for a marriage in that period.

Wife Elizabeth also born there ...
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: andrew boynton on Saturday 19 May 07 11:49 BST (UK)
Jacob jenkinson was a servant to the wood family it says in the 1851 cencus and elizabeth gambles was also in the same as a house maid in the same family and i was told by someone else researching the family tree on the internet they got married in 1852.
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: andrew boynton on Saturday 19 May 07 11:50 BST (UK)
I dont have the record for 1861 where did u get that information from?
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: Necromancer on Saturday 19 May 07 11:53 BST (UK)
Yes, this is the marriage - albeit Doncaster implies Yorkshire, the District does include Finningley - so obtain the Cert to get Jacob's Fathers name..

Marriages Dec 1852   
 
GAMBLE  Elizabeth    Doncaster  Vol 9c Page 655   
Jenkinson  Jacob     do do do

I expect the 1861 Census just got the name wrong during the collection of the Schedules ..
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: andrew boynton on Saturday 19 May 07 11:54 BST (UK)
wat does enumerated
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: Necromancer on Saturday 19 May 07 11:56 BST (UK)
1861 Census transcription (the original page is JENKINS)

RG9/3522; Folio: 116; Page: 3 - Finningley
 
Jacob Jenkin 30  Head Agricultural Labourer Yorks, Hatfield Woodhouse
Elizabeth Jenkin 25  Wife Finningley
George Jenkin 7 son do
Ann Jenkin 5  dau do
Edmund Jenkin 2  son do
Elizabeth Jenkin 4 Mo  dau do
 

Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: Necromancer on Saturday 19 May 07 11:58 BST (UK)
Enumerated - 'collected' in the Census by an Enumerator obtaining or helping them fill in the Census Schedule paperwork, then collating it and writing it up in the District returns.

The latter is what has been digitized and used as the basis for a searchable name index.
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: andrew boynton on Saturday 19 May 07 12:03 BST (UK)
which website did u search to get that information.
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: Necromancer on Saturday 19 May 07 12:10 BST (UK)
I cant make a link from 'Hatfield Woodhouse' exactly, but this may be him ... only Jacob in a +/- 5 year period anyways ...

Get that Marriage Cert to confirm the Father's name   :)

1841 -  HO107/1313/8; Guiseley; District: 3A; Folio: 7; Page: 13
Old Chilhouses?

 
William Jenkinson 35  Woolen M
Ann Jenkinson 33 
Samuel Jenkinson 13 
Jacob Jenkinson  11
Edward Jenkinson 8   
Nanney Jenkinson 5 
Mary Jenkinson 1 
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: andrew boynton on Saturday 19 May 07 12:12 BST (UK)
can't u just type the website?
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: Necromancer on Saturday 19 May 07 12:15 BST (UK)
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can't u just type the website?


Well, now I've seen you ask the question I could - if a please or thank you was forthcoming !
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: andrew boynton on Saturday 19 May 07 12:16 BST (UK)
please could u tell me the website ?
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: Necromancer on Saturday 19 May 07 12:18 BST (UK)
www.ancestry.co.uk

try being a little more courteous and you'll continue to get help ...
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: andrew boynton on Saturday 19 May 07 12:19 BST (UK)
thank u  ;D
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: Necromancer on Saturday 19 May 07 12:24 BST (UK)
This info on the location of Hatfield Woodhouse, may negate the 1841 finding above.

Hatfield is in the Thorne District - altho the family may have moved away when Jacob was young ..

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Hatfield/index.html
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: Necromancer on Saturday 19 May 07 12:28 BST (UK)
The family you want is here:-

HO107/1331/8; Parish: Hatfield; Thorne District: 8; Folio: 19; Page: 6
Uggins Cottage


With your newly purchased subscription you will be able to view the Image ....  8)
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: andrew boynton on Saturday 19 May 07 12:30 BST (UK)
How would i know which church they went to? would they still have like protestants and catholic churches in those days?
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: Necromancer on Saturday 19 May 07 12:32 BST (UK)
I think in that part of the country they were heathens .... Viking stock ....  :P
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: andrew boynton on Saturday 19 May 07 12:35 BST (UK)
Is this wrong

 cant make a link from 'Hatfield Woodhouse' exactly, but this may be him ... only Jacob in a +/- 5 year period anyways ...

Get that Marriage Cert to confirm the Father's name   

1841 -  HO107/1313/8; Guiseley; District: 3A; Folio: 7; Page: 13
Old Chilhouses?
 
William Jenkinson 35  Woolen M
Ann Jenkinson 33 
Samuel Jenkinson 13 
Jacob Jenkinson 11
Edward Jenkinson 8   
Nanney Jenkinson 5 
Mary Jenkinson 1 
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: Necromancer on Saturday 19 May 07 12:36 BST (UK)
Yes, the 1841 census info just prior to this post is the correct one.

Here it is again ...

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The family you want is here:-

HO107/1331/8; Parish: Hatfield; Thorne District: 8; Folio: 19; Page: 6
Uggins Cottage

With your newly purchased subscription you will be able to view the Image ....  8) 
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: andrew boynton on Saturday 19 May 07 12:40 BST (UK)
Im so confused and im so dumb i clicked on the website url

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Hatfield/index.html

then they give me the churches do i click on these ones? which one ? or don't i click on these ones?

St. Lawrence's Church, Hatfield.

The Methodist Church, Hatfield Woodhouse.
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: Necromancer on Saturday 19 May 07 12:45 BST (UK)
You wont need to if you get that 1841 entry showing Jacob's parents and siblings .....
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: andrew boynton on Saturday 19 May 07 12:49 BST (UK)
okay so if i go to ancestry . co.uk  and type in

FIRST NAME:Jacob      LAST NAME: jenkins

LIVED IN:england

YEAR RANGE : 1840 - 1850

Will this be right?
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: Necromancer on Saturday 19 May 07 12:53 BST (UK)
basically, altho you will need to use wildcards to sort out the mis-spellings.

You can type in the info I gave above to get to the actual 1841 census page w/o having to worry about name spellings.

You might find the family in Parish Registers on Familysearch ..

www.familysearch.org

signing off now ....
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: andrew boynton on Saturday 19 May 07 12:58 BST (UK)
The family you want is here:-

HO107/1331/8; Parish: Hatfield; Thorne District: 8; Folio: 19; Page: 6
Uggins Cottage#

where did u get this from? could u right some step by step instructions please.
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: Necromancer on Saturday 19 May 07 13:03 BST (UK)
They are also in the IGI from FamilySearch ....

This link should show Jacob's christening ..

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/individual_record.asp?recid=500169686733&lds=1&region=2&regionfriendly=&juris1=&juris2=&juris3=&juris4=&regionfriendly=&juris1friendly=&juris2friendly=&juris3friendly=&juris4friendly=


I thought you only wanted the website ?
Title: Re: Gambles/Jenkinson family
Post by: andrew boynton on Saturday 19 May 07 13:23 BST (UK)
Okay ive done that so that might be him but what do i do now? how do i order a birth certificate or marriage to certificate for him?