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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Somerset => England => Somerset Lookup Requests => Topic started by: RobertGray on Sunday 20 May 07 05:53 BST (UK)
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Gi'day from downunder,
I'm a newbie here so please bear with me if I'm not doing this right.
I would like to request of someone a search for any information on my GGGgrandfather who married Anne Chant.
• Name: Silas GRAY M. Anne Chant
• Sex: M
• Birth: 27 MAR 1845 in Middle Chinnock, Somersetshire, England
Silas had a heap of kids
as did his sons
and their sons after them
Until they got to my father
who just had little ol' me.
Hopefully I've not requested info that is not in the 1841 census.
Maybe Silas Gray's children will be in one of the census.
There was William , Thomas, Paitience, Jemiima, Jane, Elisa and Joseph
I told you he was a busy man. ;D
Not a lot to do on those cold winter Somerset nights , I suppose.
If this is successful maybe I can be helped to find other links too searches already done for this family tree.
There are many others here in Australia researching their roots in Somerset.
Other family names include: Hallett, Garrett, Chant, Corbin, Fowler, Adams.
thanks in advance for any assistance you can give.
Robert
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Hi Robert,
Welcome to Rootchat :)
The one matching Silas Grey I can see for now is married to a Jane in 1871 ???
1871
RG10/2410 33 27
East Coker, Somerset
7 Burton Lane
Silas Grey, head, 26, Shepherd, b. Chinnock
Jane, wife, 26, b. do.
Clara, dau, 3, b do.
Will have another look around ... ;)
(possible marriage : Silas Gray - Jane Garrett Sep 1866 Yeovil 5c 731)
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1861
RG9/1640 97 9
Middle Chinnock, Somerset
1 Popehill Cottage
Thomas Gray, head, 42, Agricultural Shepherd, b. West Chinnock
Mary, wife, 37, b. East Chinnock
Silas, son, 16, Agricultural Labourer, b. Middle Chinnock
Walter, son, 14, Shepherds Boy, b. do.
Joseph, son, 12, Sepherds Boy, b. do.
Elizabeth, dau, 10, Leather Glover, b. do.
Charles, son, 8, b. do.
Thomas, son, 6, b. do.
Harriot, dau, 4, b. do.
Alice, dau, 1, b. do.
1851
HO107/1929 256 29
West Chinnock, Somerset
Castfield?
Thomas Gray, head, 32, Ag lab, b. W Chinnock
Mary, wife, 26, b E Chinnock
Silas, son, 6, b. M Chinnock
Walter, son, 4, b. do.
Joseph, son, 2, b. do.
Elizabeth, dau, 2 mo (or 9 mo?), b. do.
Just next door (all born M Chinnock):
Ann Gray, head, wid, 56, Weaver
Harriett, dau, 24, Glover
Eliza, dau, 19, Glover
Patience, dau, 17, Glover
Jemima, dau, 14, Glover
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Too bad Ann's husband isn't on the 1841... I suppose he was Silas and she was the Ann Chant you mentioned ... The Silas born 1845 was their grandson ... is he your direct line? :)
HO107/946 5 13 21
West Chinnock, Somerset
Pastfield
Ann Gray, 45, Weaver
Thomas, 20, Ag lab
William, 15, Ag lab
Joseph, 15
Jane, 12
Eliza, 8
Patience, 7
Jemima, 4
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Totally Awesome !!!!! ;D :D
Very well done Tati.
I'm very :) Pleased :) and so will the other family members here in Australia. Some of whom have done extensive research already.
It will take a little while to absorb this info.
Fancy that.....Right down to the street address.
If it was not for the blurry image :( of the West Chinnock area in Google Earth , I would probably see the very street and house now.
Let's see Tati, you have everybody picked right.
Answer to your question: Is Silas my direcrt line? ...............Yes he is.
I am the
son of Adolphus Wilson Gray B.1927 M. Carmel Joy Wingrove - 2 children
son of Morley Wilson Leigh Gray B.1880 M. Mary Margret Quinn - 6 children
son of Silas Gray 2rd B.1845 M. Jane Garrett - 6 children
Son of Thomas Gray B.1819 M. Maria Adams - 10 children
Son of Silas Gray B.1790 M. Anne Chant - 7 children
Between the lot of them I think they single handedly populated half of Canada New Zealand and Australia :o Not to mention the Wingroves on my mothers side.
At this point Tati , I wonder if I could ask if I can impose on you again at some other time for further details of the families and their inlaws.
You have been so very helpful.
Prior to Silas Gray B. 1790, I only have his wifes Family details
Anne Chants Parents were Job Chant M. Susannah Fowler.
The Reeves-Moffatt Family Tree at Ancestry.com
Link below , I hope i get this right.
http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=reeves-moffatt&id=I15479
has all the details of the family from the first Silas Gray down to me.
The Ann Gray nee Hallett who lived "next door" was Joseph Grays wife B. 1821. She eventually had 10 kids. :o
He must have went to Delta, Ontario, Canada at the time of the 1851 Census.
So much history!
It's interesting to get to know ones family like this , you have helped make them come alive again with these few details
Thank you again for you help
I look forward to being on this board while I trace my families lives.
The many web sites I've been to in the Somerset area have been very helpful also
Bye for now
Robert
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Makes my day, Robert :D
Unfortunately, I can help with census returns but not much with the other stuff. :-\ I hope someone local can help more :)
Will try to find what I can on census - when did they all leave for Australia?
You say the Ann Gray who lived next door was Joseph's wife - I wouldn't think so ??? Isn't she more likely to be Thomas' mother? ???
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Joseph
1851
HO107/1929 262 3
Chiselborough, Somerset
9 Cat St
Charlotte Hallett, head, wid, 68, Pauper Glover, b. Somerton
Hannah, dau, unm, 31, Glover, b. Chiselborough
William, grandson, 5, scholar, b do.
Ann Gray, dau, mar, 26, Glover, b. do.
Joseph Gray, son in law, mar, 27, Farm Labourer, b. West Chinnock
Robert Gray, grandson, 3, scholar, b. Chiselborough
Grace Gray, granddau, 8 mo, b. do.
1861
RG9/1640 94 4 & 5
Middle Chinnock, Somerset
11 Higher Street
Joseph Gray, head, 37, Agricultural Labourer, b. West Chinnock
Ann, wife, 35, Leather Glover, b. Chiselborough
Robert, son, 13, Ag lab, b. do.
Grace, dau, 10, Nurse, b. do.
Frederick, son, 8, b. Middle Chinnock
William, son, 6, b do.
Amelia, dau, 3, b. do.
Mary, dau, 1, b. do.
1871
RG10/2411 6 4
Middle Chinnock, Somerset
9, The Village
Joseph Gray, head, 47, Ag lab, b. West Chinnock
Anne, wife, 45, b. Chiselborough
Frederick, son, 18, Ag lab, b Mid Chinnock (as all others)
William, son, 16, Ag lab
Amelia, dau, 14, Glover
Mary, dau, 11
Alfred, son, 9, Farm Boy
George, son, 8, scholar
Samuel, son, 3, scholar
Anne, dau, 9 months
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You have Thomas's wife as Maria Adams but she seems to be Mary on all census returns? 1851 and 1861 I have posted earlier - here's 1871:
RG10/2411 7 6
Middle Chinnock, Somerset
1 Lower Farm
Mary Gray, head, wid, 47, Charwoman, b. East Chinnock
Elizabeth, dau, unm, 20, Machinist at Glove Factory, b. West Chinnock
Charles, son, 18, Ag lab, b. West Chinnock
Thomas, son, 16, Ag lab, b. do.
Harriet, dau, 14, General servant, b. do.
Alice, dau, 11, scholar, b. Mid Chinnock
Emma, dau, 9, scholar, b. do.
Henry, son, 7, scholar, b. do.
(there's a death for a Thomas Gray in March quarter 1863 Yeovil 5c 429)
and this should be her in 1841:
HO107/946/4 4 2 & 3
Middle Chinnock, Somerset
Joseph Adams, 60, Ag lab
Sarah, 55
Charles, 25
Robert, 22
Mary, 15
Thomas, 15
Emily, 13
Marriage Dec quarter 1844 Yeovil 10 873
Mary Adams - Thomas Gray
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Thank you again Tati.
Yes, you are right, my mistake . :(
It's been a long day on the Web and those ancestors have too many kids and too many names alike.
The Ann Gray mentioned living next door must have been Thomas Grays Mother. :)
And Harriet "may" have been her daughter inlaw William Grays wife.
And to think she had 10 kids herself .
How did they do it in those days.?????????
Silas and Jane lived on the Isle of Wight until they and their children Clara and Walter Adolphus sailed to Australia with Walter and Eliza. They left London on the "Storm King" on February 1, 1873, arriving in Brisbane on May 3, 1873.
There are Grays and Garretts on the Isle of Wight too.
They settled south of Ipswich Queensland and became famers, railway workers and coal miners to name but a few of their occupations.
Once again you have provided me with more family history to feast on . :D
I've been at this all day so I'll take a break and come back tomorrow to put all this together.
Thank you Tati
and thanks for the heads up on the personal details.
The web sites I posted are open to the general public.
and thanks for the latest census material as well you have been busy today.
I hope I've not taken you away from your family today.
Good night.
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i see these gray/grey burials on the NBI VOL 2 -
st margarets,middle chinnock
george grey aged 5yrs buried 16th dec 1850
ann gray aged 90yrs buried 24th oct 1885
samuel gray infant buried 15th dec 1867
thomas gray aged 45yrs buried 15th jan 1863
blessed virgin mary,west chinnock
william grey infant buried 14th dec 1817
george grey aged 3yrs buried 22nd sept 1853
jemima gray aged 50yrs buried 16th dec 1886
william gray aged 61yrs buried 28th april 1883
regards
alli
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i hope iam not duplicating this one ?
living in west chinnock in 1861-
ann gray 67yrs widow weaver born west chinnock
eliza 29yrs unmarried daughter glover
jemima 24yrs unmarried daughter glover
SOURCE INFO-RG9-1641
FOLIO-100
PAGE-22
regards
alli
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mother and daughter still together in 1871-
living in west chinnock
ann gray 76yrs widow weaver not able to work
jemima 34yrs unmarried daughter glover
SOURCE INFO-RG10-2413
FOLIO-31
PAGE-2
AND AGAIN IN 1881 -
west chinnock
eastfield cottages
ann grey 86yrs annuitant
jemima 43yrs unmaried daughter kid glove maker
SOURCE INFO-RG11-2390
FOLIO-91
PAGE-1
regards
alli
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Thank you Alli,
These Burial records are something I didn't have.
From what I can read above these are all decendants of Silas Gray my GGGGrandfather.
His sons children and their wives and their children who died so young :(
The Ann Gray mentioned was most likely Silas Grays son George's wife Ann or Anne ( Hallett )
" thomas gray aged 45yrs buried 15th jan 1863 "
He is most likely My GGgrandfather who lived at 1 Popehill Cottage Middle Chinnock during the 1861 census. He was 42 at the time of that census
Thomas Gray married Harriet Chant.
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" william gray aged 61yrs buried 28th april 1883 "
Was most likely Thomas and George's brother.
"jemima gray aged 50yrs buried 16th dec 1886" - Was their sister
I'm pleased you were able to find this information for me Alli . :)
I appreciate the research you have done.
With the limited resources I have availabe , information like this makes it possibe to create a more complete picture of my family in the Chinnocks.
Thank-you
Robert Gray
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Dear Robert,
I have some Garrett/Quinn links here in Australia
please feel free to email me
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I am looking for information to William Garrett and Mary Quinn
Scotland possibly Ireland.
the only info I have is Robert Garrett Married to Mary Hay, Govan Lanarkshire. approx 1953
Roberts death records William Garrett and Mary??
However his brother John Buried same plot William and Mary Quinn,
I think Melbourne General Cemetery
hoping for a link.
regards Susan
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Hi susan,
Here is some info for you concerning my side of the Garrett Family Tree.
We have no known relations in Melbourne.
My Garretts and Grays originally come from East and West Chinnock Somerset.
I have a Robert Garrett in my Tree. He went to New Zealand.
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Jane and Eliza GARRETT married 2 brothers,Silas and Walter Gray
both families emigrated to Australia in 1873. Between them they had 15 children .
Settled and farmed Ipswich area 35kms south west of Brisbane, QUEENSLAND
Jane died in 1921 and is buried at Mt Walker Queensland
Notes for ELIZA GARRETT:
Resided at North Road, Shanklin, Isle of Wight (1871 Census) where she was living with her Parents.
Moved to Mutdapilly, Fassifern, Queensland in 1898.
Eliza's sister Jane married Walter's brother Silas.
Eliza was buried at Mutdapilly Cemetery.
The Garretts of East Chinnock
The earliest mention of a Garrett in East Chinnock is the 1779 marriage of
Peter Garrett and Alice Reynolds.
The earliest ancestor in our branch is William Garrett born (c)1787 who
married Mary Corbin in 1813. I have not yet been able to confirm that
William is a son of Peter and Alice although his birth date would fit with
others in their family. William and Mary's children were;
(all births in this list were in East Chinnock unless otherwise stated)
Charles Garrett born 23 August 1813 married Maria Adams.
Their children were;
Charles Garrett born 21 August 1840, baptised 3 September 1840.
Jane Garrett baptised 2 March 1845. In 1866 she married Silas Gray* and
went to Austrakia.
Ann Garrett born (c)1846.
Eliza Garrett born (c)1848. In 1869 she married Walter Gray* and went to
Australia.
Robert Garrett born on 31 May 1850. He went to New Zealand on the
Monarch'in1870.
Mary Ann Garrett born (c)1852
Catrina Garrett christened 25 February 1816.
Eliza Garrett christened 30 May 1819. In 1847 she married Esau Baker
their
two children were; Mary Baker
(c)1861 born at Mudford and John Baker (c)1862 born at Ansford.
Matthew Garrett christened 21 March 1822. He migrated to Canada in 1842
Joel Garrett christened 20 March 1825. He followed Matthew to Canada.
Harriet Garrett christened 22 April 1827Charlotte Garrett born (c)1830,
christened 7 February 1836.
Abraham Garrett born (c)1833, christened 7 February 1836. He married a
Rebecca, also from East Chinnock, and they had seven children
Albert Garrett (c)1857
William Garrett (c)1865
Eliza Garrett (c)1867
Fanny Garrett (c)1871
Shadrack Garrett (c)1874
Elizabeth Garrett (c)1876
Ellen Garrett (c)1876
William Garrett christened 7 February 1836. He seems to have died before
the1841 census.
* The two Garrett sisters married Gray brothers who migrated to Australia
in 1873 on the "Storm King". They went farming and settled near each other at
Ipswith (near Brisbane) in Queensland.
Another of the Gray brothers, Joseph, went to New Zealand with Robert
Garrett.
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Mary Margaret QUINN
Born 22-03-1896 Ravenswood Queensland Australia
Father - James William Quinn, born - Perth W.A.
Mother - Delia Heaney - Born- Galway, Ireland
Marriage - Morley Wilson Leigh GRAY b: 21 JAN 1880 in Normanby Reserve, Fassifern District, Queensland, Australia
* Married: 7 MAY 1921 in Holy Trinity Church, Bowen, Queensland, Australia
I trust this has been of some assistance to you.
If you find a match let me know.
Regards
Robert
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I only saw this a bit late in replying, unfortunately this is not my Garret side. Thanks anyway. Susan
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I happen to be looking up the following address as it is the home of my 5 x Great Grandfather Thomas Gray and I found this page. I was a tad shocked but I see it's been a while hope they are still about and maybe get to see this post?