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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Clare => Topic started by: LH on Tuesday 22 May 07 10:30 BST (UK)
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Can anyone possibly help p-l-e-a-s-e. I'm looking for information on John Warren (m) Eliza Powell in Kiltenanlea Parish Church in 1843. The records for this church perished in Dublin.
John was not a native to Co Clare, so what brought him to the area?
Did he work on the Massey Estate and has anyone got access to Estate Papers?
Any snippet of information would be most welcome.
Thanks
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Hi,
I notice the date of your post was 2007 so I hope the following info is still useful.
I have in my possession a booklet called "Kiltenanlea Parish Church" Clonlara, Co Clare. 1782-1992 by Freddie Bourke (Nov 1992). Published by Clonlara Development Association.
There is one report in the gravestone inscriptions for a Warren family. Most of the deaths are 1900-1929. There is an Eliza Warren of Coolisteige who died 19 Jan 1885 but no age is given. I can provide the other names if you wish.
The booklet also states that the parish register is held at St. Flannan's Cathedral, Killaloe, the marriage register begins 20 Jul 1845, baptisms 1882 and the burials Sep 1881. They are complete.
Regards, Gazania
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Hi
Sincerest thanks for your reply.
I have a copy of that book and the dates mentioned. However, I would LOVE to know where the first Warren in Clonlara originated as he was definitely not from that county. By marrying a Powell lady from Clonlara 1843
and later taking over her family home, he began what became long association with the area. Sadly the CoI church records for Kiltenanlea perished, so I can't get the marriage record to see John's address, or the name of his father.
Do you have a connection with Clonlara too?
Cheers
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Hi,
My great great grand mother, Mary Wall, was born in Clonlara about the 1830s and migrated alone to Moreton Bay (Brisbane) in the 1850s. Her parents, James and Mary Wall, were still alive and living in Clonlara when she migrated. They were RC. Mary is my "favourite" ancestor.
In 1994, my OH and I spent a fortnight staying in a B&B at Clonlara and met the wonderful people of the village.
Cheers, Gazania
PS I wish I could be of more help with your Warrens.
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Hi,
Glad you enjoyed your stay in Clonlara. I visit the village each year and my gg grandparents home is still standing, but unoccupied. If only those walls could talk......
Best Wishes
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Hi,
Glad to make contact with someone else with a Clonlara connection. Would love to have a drink again in the pub and buy some bread at the post office shop. We were shown the acre where the (later) Walls lived near the bridge with the road bisecting the farmstead following the Shannon scheme.
Are there any more new homes for commuters to Limerick?
When ever I get down in the dumps I think about Mary Wall, who at the age of about 18 left her family behind (why?), sailed to the former Moreton Bay Penal settlement only 7 years after the penal settlement closed, with 176 other brave young girls from Co Clare on the same ship. Mary married the son of a convict and the pair of them roughed it in the bush and successfully raised 10 kids. Both Mary & her husband died in their mid forties. Their descendants have done them proud.
Pardon my nostalgia. It is late. Bye Gazania
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Hello
I just read your post about Wall family in Clonlara. I live in Clonlara and think that you speak about the Wall family who lived below the village on the Doonass road. In my generation there was Eddie and Jimmy Wall. There is also a Wall family who lived on the Killaloe road between Clonlara Village and Blackwater. There was a Jimmy Wall and Eddie Wall there also, they lived with their mother who was still alive in the late 1960's. This wall family were friends and neighbours of my mothers family who lived across the road. My mother is 85 years old and i will ask her about the families as she has a great memory and knew both families well.
All the best
Margaret
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Thank you for your interest. I shall PM you as we may be discussing living persons here. Best regards, Gazania
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Hi I am new to this Site, so hope I am doing things properly !
I see that you live in Clonlara. I believe that my Granmother - Helena (or Lena) Whelan came from Clonlara (or Coollisteige). She was born in 1901. Her father was Maurice Whelan and her mother was Mary Keane from Coolderra, Killokennedy.
I wonder if any of these names are know to anybody or if anyone has any information about these families.
I would be grateful for any information.
Thank you
Helena Redmond
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Hi Helena
This appears to be your Whelan family in the 1901 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Clare/Kiltenanlea/Coollisteige/1083244/
According to the census Lena would have been born ab 1891. They do not appear in the 1911 census
Margaret
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This looks like the same family in 1911-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Clare/Kiltenanlea/Coollisteige/366496/
Lena is 9 years old and some of the information has been mis-transcribed if you look at the original page:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001792801/
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Thank you margaretspearin and Aghadowey for your prompt replies and help.
I have already found the Whelan family on the 1901 and 1911 Census. I have also found some Birth and other records in the GRO in Dublin. I have not been able to find them all and hope to visit the Church in Clonlara to fill in some of the gaps.
I have not been able to pin point the right Keane family in the either the 1901 or 1911 Census records.
If the Keane family were from Coolderra can anyone tell me which R.C. Church would have their records ?
I guess I am just fishing to see if I can find any further information, and wondering if there is any family still in the area.
Thanks for your help.
Helena
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If the Keane family were from Coolderra can anyone tell me which R.C. Church would have their records ?
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I dont see a townland entry for Coolderra, but nearby townlands that are listed (e.g. Knockdonagh) are in the Civil parish of O'Briensbridge. The two other places you mentioned Coollisteige and Cloonlara are in the civil parish of Kiltenanlea (see townland database www.thecore.com/seanruad), and from the details I have, this area is all in the RC parish of 'Doonass-and-Truagh'. RC Baptism and marriage records for this parish go back to 1851, and are available in the National Library on microfilm Pos. 2476.
see : Doonass-and-Truagh RC Parish (http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/rcparishmaps/index.cfm?fuseaction=showidrecords&CityCounty=Clare&parish=Doonass-and-Truagh&churchid=771) (Irish Times Family History)
Even thought this area is in Co. Clare, it seems to be covered by the Limerick registration district for the purposes of Civil Records.
Shane
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Coolderra is a townland of Ardnacrusha which is in the RC parish of Parteen and Meelick. Although it is in Co Clare it is in the Dioces of Limerick.
You should be able to find records for Parteen and Meelick on the IFHF Limerick records
I hope this helps
Margaret
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Hi,
Im james Keane from coolderra,(coolderry)Ardnacrusha. Try kilbane,and broadford,because Broadford was our parish.Hope this helps you
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Hello, I'm brand new to this forum so please excuse me if I haven't done this right, but would anyone have any information on the Wall family from Clonlara, County Clare? I'm particularly interested in Mary Wall, born 1836 and her parents. I have very limited information on her parents, only their first names: James and Mary.
Thank you,
Joanna
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Hi Joanna,
Yes and we must be cousins. I am descended from the Aldermans while other associated names are Sweedman, Weir, Stapleton, Shaw as well as Fox. I am very interested to see where you fit in.
Before we can send each other personal messages, you have to post two more messages on this forum.
I have lots to share. Regards, Gazania
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Hello gazania
My name is Greg MCMAHON from Sydney Australia.
I saw your post about the booklet Kiltenanlea Parish Church Clonlara
I am looking fof information about MCMAHON's from that town and the surround area.
Does it mention anything about the MCMAHON's in the area? The time period I am looking at is at least the early 1800 if not earlier until present day as one MCMAHON stayed and married and 3 came to Australia
Kind regards
Greg
Hi,
I notice the date of your post was 2007 so I hope the following info is still useful.
I have in my possession a booklet called "Kiltenanlea Parish Church" Clonlara, Co Clare. 1782-1992 by Freddie Bourke (Nov 1992). Published by Clonlara Development Association.
There is one report in the gravestone inscriptions for a Warren family. Most of the deaths are 1900-1929. There is an Eliza Warren of Coolisteige who died 19 Jan 1885 but no age is given. I can provide the other names if you wish.
The booklet also states that the parish register is held at St. Flannan's Cathedral, Killaloe, the marriage register begins 20 Jul 1845, baptisms 1882 and the burials Sep 1881. They are complete.
Regards, Gazania
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Hi Greg,
Sorry, there are no mention of McMahons. The booklet has concentrated on the surviving memorials of the gentry. (or perhaps only those who could afford them) Most of the memorials date from well after your family migrated. Wish I could be of more help. Best wishes, Gazania
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I live in Clonlara and can do a little research in the area. I don't know of McMahons in the Parish. Can you give more detail? Names dates etc..
Margaret
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Hello Margaret
Thank you for your message. My email address is *
The mcmahon's
Michael MCMAHON married Honorah GEORGE 1829 at Obriensbridge Its believed Michael's father was Thomas MCMAHON
Micheal and Honarah MCMAHON had at least 4 children (my relative) Thomas Mary and Ellen came to Australia. Patrick MCMAHON married Anne Keogh in 1870 and lived in a farm in Kildoorus That belonged to Baron MASSEY
Their children
Micheal Born 18th Nov 1970
Corney Born 11st Sept 1872
Mary Born 2nd June 1874
Francis Born 23rd Feb 1877
Bridget Born 28th Jan 1879
Patrick Born 15th July 1880
Anne Born 9th Oct 1882
James Born 27th Nov 1883
Anne Born 10th Oct 1885
Martin Born 4th Nov 1887
Ellen Born 13th Nov 1890
Nora Born 30th Oct 1893
I would love any information you could find for me. I am sure we would have relatives in Ireland that we did not know about.
Cheers
Greg
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Hi
In the early 1840s a list of tenants taken in the Clonlara area shows a William McMahon in the townland of Aughboy, adjacent to Coollisteige (Kiltenanlea). Landlord was Sir Hugh Dillon Massy.
McMahons and Georges are also mentioned in Griffiths Valuation - a census substitute, carried out in Co Clare in the mid 1850s. Link - http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/clare/kiltenanlea.php
Freddie Bourke's wonderful book "Kiltenanlea Parish Church" notes the burial of Charles George age 4 and Frederick Charles age under 1, children of John and Elizabeth Charles in Kiltenanlea Graveyard.
Mr Burke writes that John Charles worked as a Coachman and Butler in Summerhill House but was known as Charley George.
Cheers
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Hi there. I have noticed your query on a number of occasions, I see that you have not had much luck I on the other hand live in Clonlara Co Clare and am related to someone who would know a lot about the history of the Parish. The Warren family lived in Coolastigue they were Church of Ireland Religion. A number of years ago a relation of the Warren Family erected a Headstone on the grave of your ancestors alongside the original stone that still stands today. There is no family of that name living in the Parish now but your ancestors still live here. I have a name for you but I need to private message it to you.
Regards Teresa.
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Hi ,
i see where James Keane says is he from Cooldarra ..
I am trying to work out the different Keane Families between CastleBank and Cooldarra. From Griffiths ( cains there ) to the 1911 census.
Especially a Keane who sold the Land where Parteen village housing estate is on in the 1950's. Do you know how the different Keane Families connect in the Area.
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Hi
Just wondering whether any new documents/information has come to light since I posted my WARREN query here a few years ago? Still living in hope.....
Thanks