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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: Northerngirl on Thursday 31 May 07 15:16 BST (UK)
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Hello to all Emigrants to USA forum members.
The possibility is that I may be moved from this forum to a more military based forum ... but here goes.
I think I have found a WWII Registration Card for a great uncle who emigrated from County Mayo in Ireland to the Bronx in New York.
I have a copy of a Registration Card for 1942 which gives information about this individual's address, age, occupation, spouse and place of birth. I wonder if this is some sort of card for conscription. There is a reference number which may suggest it is military in origin.
Whichever way, I wonder how I will begin to research how and when this (potential) great uncle emigrated to NY. I've had a brief look on Ancestry.co.uk but am baffled at the mere options. I put his name in a general emigration database with no joy.
Where do I begin my search.
Yours J.A
Northumberland England.
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The only WWII Draft Registration Cards online for the public are those referred to as the "old man's registration." It was for men born between the years of 1877 and 1897. Any other cards are not available to the public due to privacy laws. The WWII DRC were not a conscription into service, just a database of men that could be called into service, if they were needed.
If you give the name and birthdate of your gr uncle, maybe someone here could find him for you.--Genealiza
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Thanks for the reply Genealiza.
I've actually got the image from Ancestry and its title states 'US WWII Draft Registration Card 1942' - so this, presumably, is this 'old man's registration'.
The name is Darby Mills which is an unusual name in County Mayo and is most likely to be my grandmother's brother who would have been born in Gortmellia Erris Head (near Belmullet/Castlebar) in about 1894. My mother tells me that as much as she knows the male Mills of my grandmother's family emigrated.
I wonder if you can help me clarify something else also.
The address is American and as I am English don't quite understand it. In England we have the number and name of the street, town, county and country - quite simple for we Brits to understand e.g 42, Down Street, Little Town, North County, England.
How do I interpret 508 East 140 Street NY?
Is 508 a house number or a street number - and what about the 140. That is - would there be an a 509 East 140 Street or 508 East 141 Street as neighbouring property etc - I'd like to look on the internet to see if the address still exists and may be viewed on Google Earth.
Yours in thanks J.A.
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508 is the number of the house.
East 140th Street is the name of the street (and West 140th Street is across the Harlem River in Manhattan)
508 East 140th Street appears to be between Willis and Brook Avenues in the Mott Haven section of the South Bronx. I think it's near the corner of Brook.
Here is some info on houses nearby:
http://travel.nytimes.com/2006/02/26/realestate/26scape.html
I gather the address would have been for a house rather than an apartment building. As is usual in New York City, 508 would be between 506 and 510 and the odd numbered houses would be across the street.
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Hi IGS
Thanks for the prompt reply.
I'll have a look at the site later.
J.A.
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One more thing:
Here he is on the Social Security Death Index:
Darby MILLS
Birth Date: 20 Oct 1894
Death Date: Dec 1980
Social Security Number: 102-28-3634
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: New York
Actual Death Residence: Europe
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Hi again.
Thanks for that IGS. I've just managed to get the record myself from Ancestry. It tells me he died (probably) in Dublin. The word US Consulate is given in brackets - so supposedly as he was a US citizen would have had the death register there. Perhaps he was on holiday. I know that this is him as the birth date from the DRC matches.
J.A.
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Hi J.A.
Here is Darby's passenger list entry...
Ship "Scythia" departing Cobh (Queenstown) 21st November 1926, arriving New York 29th November 1926
Martin Mills age 27 and Darby Mills age 32, both born Ballina, Ireland
Father, Darby Mills, Barnathra, Bellina, Mayo
Going to, Cousin, Mrs B Broderick, 230 E 42nd Sreet, New York
Neither have been in the US before and they intend to stay "Permt."
Haven't found him in 1930 but will have another look
Agnes
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Wow Agnes 1896.
Thanks for that information. Where did you get it from?
I am sooo impressed.
The Martin and Darby with their father as Darby means that it is very likely that they are my grandparents cousins who all lived in the same tiny hamlet of Gortmellia. I think that Barnatra, Ballina was the local post office point and so the address would be given for there despite the hamlet being about 7 miles away. I know that was the addres my grandmother gave when she was contacting home. It seems that they include an 'h' in the word when saying it as Gortmellia is often seen as Gorthmellia.
Now then the B Broderick - a cousin - is very interesting - what is the betting that it is B for Bridie (Bridget).
Thanks a million Agnes.
J.A.
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In the 1920 Census, there is a Darby Mills, age 33, a cousin living with husband and wife Henry & Bridget Broderick. Ancestry has Darby mis-transcribed as "Darhy". The address is hard to read - looks like 506 W. 49th Street. It appears to be a large apartment building.
Henry immigrated in 1914 and was naturalized in 1918. He was 26 years old and a laborer at a potato plant. Bridget immigrated in 1915 and was also naturalized in 1918. Darby is listed as arriving in 1913 and being an alien. His occupation looks like fireman in the hotel industry (?).
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Wow...brilliant work Shellyesq ;D ;D ;D ;D
I couldn't find B Broderick at all :-[
Sooooo on the back of that....found this
Henry Broderick married Bridget Boylan, June 1st 1919 in Manhattan
S.S. New York, sailing from Liverpool, September 16th 1916, arriving New York September 24th 1916
Bridget Boylan, age 22, Servant
Last residence, Gortmellar, Ireland
Father, Michael Boylan, Gortmellar
Going to Sister, Mary Boylan, 316 E 47th Street, New York
Place of birth, Gortmellar, Ireland
Still haven't found Darby or Bridget in 1930 but will continue to look ;) :)
Best wishes
Agnes
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Hello again.
Thank you to you both. It's quite incredible how much information is out there.
J.A.
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Hi I dont know if anyone is reading this anymore. I just stumbled across this - I am not related but I have a copy of a picture of Darby Mills belonging to a local historian in Erris.
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Hello Windwyer.
Thank you very much for your information. Apologies for not getting back sooner than this. I would love to see a photograph of my great uncle. Thank you once again.
NG.
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This is a picture of Darby Mills posted by the Erris historian Uinsionn Mac Graith. He operated a shop from the back of this donkey.
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Hello Windwyer.
Thank you very much for your information. Apologies for not getting back sooner than this. I would love to see a photograph of my great uncle. Thank you once again.
NG.
Hi NG,
I think we do need to connect - I have worked through the B Broderick Darby Mills chain. There were two Darby Mills cousins and I think the one with B Broderick is not the same as the one with the military card but my husband's GF who came back to Ireland in 1922 as he did arrive in 1913.
ZoeC
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Hi ZoeC.
The Darby Broderick was perhaps my grandmother's brother - sorry it has been such a long time since I've researched this side of the family. My great grandfather was Darby Mills who married Margaret Mullarkey. If the Darby of the Broderick is my great uncle then his father was Anthony and his mother was Margaret Ginnelly.
I don't know if that helps. It is lovely to hear from you though. Please keep in contact.
I have not seen the photograph of Darby and his horse until now so that is fabulous.
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Hi Findwyer.
That is a fabulous image. Thank you very much for posting it. Which Darby it is would be interesting to find out. I wonder if that is actually near Gortmellia.
From both a visit to family in Gortmellia a few year ago and from information given in Father Noone's book the Mills family had a shop in Belmullet which may now be where the Magin shop is. That Mills was my great grand father's side!!!!!
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Hello,
I am reading this just out of interest - Belmullet interest really. Here is Darby Mills birth registration - mother, Sarah Boylan and birthdate 20th October 1894 - fits with reply #5
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02235/1842102.pdf
Heywood
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Hi Heywood,
Thanks for this, particularly the link to the website: civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie which I've not seen before.
Zoe
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Hi Haywood.
Thank you for that link. That Darby Mills may well be a cousin of my own grandmother Ellen Mills. I did research him. He was one of the two Darby Mills for the 1901/1911 censuses. My great grandfather was the other Darby Mills. The Darby Mills of Gortmellia were undoubtedly all related.
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Hi Heywood,
Thanks for this, particularly the link to the website: civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie which I've not seen before.
Zoe
It can be very useful Zoe.
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I’m very lucky to have stumbled on this even though i’m a late.
Recently I’ve been taking a heavy interest in my Irish family and just started to do some research. I do know that the Darby Mills, the son of Sarah Boylan, is my great granduncle. My great grandfather was Martin Mills his brother. I unfortunately don’t remember him as he passed away in 1994 and I was born in 1989 but he was around when I was really young. So I’m really excited to have stumbled upon this! Thank you guys so much!