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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Kirkcudbrightshire => Topic started by: stoop on Monday 04 June 07 19:49 BST (UK)
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Anyone interested in the kerr family who farmed Newbridge farm from 1850 till 1967. James Kerr was born in 1811 in Annan ,first took afarm on the Goldielea estate near Troqueer. He then moved to newbridge in 1851.James marriedSarah Pattie Phillips they had 10 children,George , James ,Thomas ,William ,John , David Sarah ,Agnes ,Margaret ,Mary Jane , andMartha. I have details regarding who they married and their children.
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Hi, I would love to know about this family. My Kerr's came from Annan, Dalton, and other parishes in dumfries. Bet these would fit in somewhere.
Brenda
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I'm always interested in hearing about Kerr's from Kircudbright, or Dumfries and post my interest.
James Ker & Catherine Wilson Kirkbean from abt. 1795 onward. Married Troqueer abt. 1795
Family :- Sarah Whitehead Ker (note spelling)
William Kerr
Thomas Kerr
Violet Kerr
John Ker (note spelling)
Elizabeth Martin Kerr
Richard Mundel Kerr.
Thank you.
James Kerr
Scotland.
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I have really just started working on this line, and my McGowan line. I have been able to find some of them in census, and a baptism for Isabella Kerr in Kilbride. Isabella married James Tweedie 1815 in Cairne, Dumfries. Her parents were John Kerr and Margaret Esbie (sp?) I also have a Janet (Jane) Kerr b. abt 1806 Dalton, Dumfries. She is the daughter of James Kerr and Janet Neilson. I have her death record. Janet married William McGowan.
Brenda
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Oh,,forgot,,,William McGowan was born Kelton, and died in Troqueer.
Brenda
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Hi Brenda and James Kerr, thank you for your response to my post. I do hope that we can make connections with our Kerr and Ker families. I have been continually researching my roots for the last three years and have made a number of contacts with other people also researching their family history in the same geographical area. I have been given information that has provided evidence for establishing links among Kerrs throughout Dumfriesshire and parts of Kirkcudbrightshire. Places in Parishes like Mouswald, Torthorwald, Dalton, Troqueer, Terregles in Kirkcudbrightshire. The following people illustrate the roots of my particular line.
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James Kerr b. 1718 d.1789 m. Martha Moffat b. 1728 d.1803 . One of their children was Thomas Kerr b. 1773 d. 1829 m. Mary Slater b. 1783 d. 1874. One of their children was James Kerr b. 1811 . d. 1874 m. Sarah Phillips Pattie b. 1812 d. 1877. One of their children was John Kerr b. 1854 d.1907 m. Margaret Wallace b. 1856 d.1917 . One of their children was Hugh Wallace Kerr b.1888 d.1935 m. Ada Smith b. 1892 d. 1978 One of their children was Jean Margaret Kerr b.1920 d. 1996 m. Henry Sydney Owen b. 1919 d. 1993. The last two named people are my parents. I appreciate this is only a brief introduction but it is a starting point for the possible exchang of information . I look forward to hearing from you both. Regards stoop.
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Hello Brenda,
I am related to the Kerr's from Dalton and Carrutherstown near Annan.
Best wishes,
Stephen
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Hi Stephen can you name any of your Kerr family members from Dalton?. regards stoop.
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Hello
Yes,William Kerr lived in Dalton-married to Mary Campbell,both buried in Dalton cemetary.
Steve.
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Thanks Stephen will look to see if my Kerrs are related. regards stoop.
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Hi,
William's family were from Mouswald Parish orginally.I have a g-grandfather who was a farmer in Torthorwald also.Don't have all the details with me as I am at work.
Steve.
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I have a William Kerr b. 21 May 1780, Plecairne, Dalton Parish. I think Plecairne was a farm in Cairne. Not sure. Anyway, he was the son of John Kerr and Margaret Esbie. Does this sound familiar?
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Hello Brenda,
My William was born 1834 in Dalton.His father was James Kerr born 1794 in Mouswald.William's grandfather was John Ker,christened 1764 in Dalton.John was married to Jean Tweedie who was from Banks,Mouswald.Maybe we tie in somewhere?
Bye,Stephen
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Oh how exciting!!! Will look to see what I have, and the genealogy book too,,,maybe we do connect!
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Hi Maineyusa, have a look at the posting headed Cleughbrae there are at least eleven pages of information regarding the various Kerr families in the parishes around Mouswald, Torthorwald, and Dalton. Iam confident that we are all probably related. Regards stoop.
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I should have pointed out that Kerrs of Cleughbrae is Dumfriesshire not Kircudbrightshire. Regards stoop.
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Thankyou Stoop!! Will check that out.
Brenda
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Hi Stoop,
I noticed from one of your previous messages you mention James Kerr married to Sarah Phillips Pattie of Newbridge.7 years ago I was in contact with one Brian Bell who was also related to this family of James and one of the son's of James called George,died at Chatham in the USA in 1873.I know that Brian had an ancester who was a blacksmith in Mouswald called Joseph Kerr who was a brother to my William.
Steve.
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Hello Brenda,
Don't know if you were still coming to Scotland or you have been already but I live in Troon(just by Ayr),and would be happy to see you.
Steve.
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Hi Steve , Brian Bell was my very first contact, thanks to him I got started. One of my Kerrs married into Joseph Kerrs family , mine farmed at Terregles , Josephs were the blacksmiths at Terregles. I have been researching for over three years now and have accumulated lots of information about our Kerrs and families we have married into. I must say I have been given help by many generous people. Regards stoop.
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I am still planning a trip to Scotland, but it won't be this year. I actually have several Kerr's that married into my lines.
The first is Margaret Kerr who married James Hunter. The only information I have on them is they had a daughter, Agnes Hunter b. abt. 1818 and d. 1904 Majoribanks, Lochmaben. She married John Green b. 1825 d. 1889 Queen St., Lochmaben. Agnes and John had a son, James Green b. abt 1846 and d. 16 Oct 1915, Lochmaben. James married Elizabeth Tweedie b. abt 1843 Lochmaben, daughter of John Gibson Tweedie and Phillis Steele.
The second is Agnes Kerr, dau of George and Margaret (Irving) Kerr b. abt 1854 Scotland and d. 1885 Illinois, USA. She married Thomas Charles Tweedie, son of Thomas Tweedie and Agnes McGowan, b. 9 Ded 1854 Dalton Parish and d. Abt 1918, Boston Massachusetts. I have a beautiful 8X10 photo of Agnes and Thomas on their wedding day.
Now, the above mentioned Agnes McGowan's mother was Jane/Janet Kerr, daughter of James Kerr and Janet Neilson. Jane Kerr was b. 1807 Dalton and d. 11 Nov 1881 at Whitecroft Farm, Dalton. She married William McGowan b. 1790 Kelton, Kirks. He was the son of William McGowan and Mary Hannah. Jane's father, James Kerr was b. abt 1781.
So here are a few of the Kerr's I have. I have the families children also and will post them next.
Brenda
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Hi Steve, stoop calling regarding William ,brother of Joseph, firstly are you writing about J oseph born 1799 and married to Isabella Johnstone. If so I do not have any knowledge of him. Regards stoop.
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I found another,,,lol. Isabella Kerr (dau of John Kerr and Margaret Esbie) b. abt 1782 Pleacairne, Dalton, chr. 17 Jul 1782 Mouswald, Dumfries, d. 10 Dec 1840 Pleacairne, Dalton. Isabella married James Tweedie b. abt 1795 Lochmaben. James d. 1 Dec 1876 Mouswald. Both are buried at the Dalton Cemetery, Dalton. I am related to most if not all the Tweedies buried there.
Brenda
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Hello Brenda,
My William was born 1834 in Dalton.His father was James Kerr born 1794 in Mouswald.William's grandfather was John Ker,christened 1764 in Dalton.John was married to Jean Tweedie who was from Banks,Mouswald.Maybe we tie in somewhere?
Bye,Stephen
Hi, Cousin! I am descended from John Kerr (1756-1843) and Jean Tweedie (1768-1841) myself, through their firstborn son, John (1786-1843) and his wife Agnes(s) Johnston(e) (1803-1869). The wonderful people on RootsChat have been exceptionally helpful in tracking down my Kerr ancestry in Dumfriesshire.
~Len
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WOW,,,,another cousin!!! This is so exciting. My Kerrs all married into the Tweedie line. I have an extensive Tweedie genealogy, in part I did the research, and I also inherited my aunt's genealogy when she became unable to continue it herself. I noticed the name BELL mentioned in an earlier post. I also have Bell from the same area. Guess I wondered which line to work on next,,,,think I know now which one,,,lol.
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WOW,,,,another cousin!!! This is so exciting. My Kerrs all married into the Tweedie line. I have an extensive Tweedie genealogy, in part I did the research, and I also inherited my aunt's genealogy when she became unable to continue it herself. I noticed the name BELL mentioned in an earlier post. I also have Bell from the same area. Guess I wondered which line to work on next,,,,think I know now which one,,,lol.
I have traced my Tweedies back to the Barons Drumelzier, but do not have strong source documentation for a couple of connections after the Tweedies forfeited their barony to the Hays of Yester, so I would be very interested in comparing notes with you.
I also have a Bell line that I've made little progress with. My great-great-grandfather, David Kerr (1828-1890) was married to Mary Bell, born 29 March 1826 in Branetrig. She was the daughter of James Bell (1787-1875) and Helen Neilson (b. 1796). James Bell's father appears to have been another James Bell, born c. 1760, but that's as far as I've gotten. Also, my James Tweedie (1727-1800) was married to a Janet Bell (1742-1808), but I've been unable to determine her parents.
If you're amind to research either of those lines further, perhaps we could work together and share some of the time and costs of perusing the ScotlandsPeople database -- after exhausting what might already be posted here on RootsChat, of course!
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Now, there ya go! James Tweedie and Jannet Bell were my 5th great grandparents. From them, my descent is:
James and Jannet (Bell) Tweedie
John and Susanna (Richardson) Tweedie
James and Isabella (Kerr) Tweedie
Thomas and Agnes (McGowan) Tweedie
John and Jane (Jenkins) Tweedie
John and Helen (Sawyer) Tweedie my grandparents
Brenda
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Hi Brenda,Stoop and Len,
Good to hear from you all.
Just wondered if any of you are members of the Dumfries and Galloway Family History Society.
Steve
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Hi Brenda,Stoop and Len,
Good to hear from you all.
Just wondered if any of you are members of the Dumfries and Galloway Family History Society.
Steve
I am not [yet] a member. I am a member of several genealogical and historical societies in the USA, but to date I have only joined those that I have personally visited and worked with due to my limited financial resources. I am hoping to make a personal visit to Dumfries/Galloway in 2012 or 2013 with most or all of my kids and grandkids, at which time I will most likely join in order to gain the greatest benefit and support the work they do.
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I was, and receiving their newsletters until the end of last year. I have not had the funds to continue. I loved the newsletters.
Brenda
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Hi Steve, I have not joined the society, not sure what the benefits would be. Regards stoop.
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Hi I have a mary Kerr (spelling variation Car ) my 4th great grandmother she married Hamilton Agnew 0n 27 May 1802 in the Parish of Whithorn Wigton
( I have a copy of parish record off SP site )wonder if this links up with anyone ?
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Hi
My 3 x gg grandfather was thomas KERR m mary slater
Son james m sarah PATTIE
Son william m Jane HANNAH
Son James m margaret McKay HOUSTON
my grandparents
Have all the documentation to prove
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Hi
My 3 x gg grandfather was thomas KERR m mary slater
Son james m sarah PATTIE
Son william m Jane HANNAH
Son James m margaret McKay HOUSTON
my grandparents
Have all the documentation to prove
Allan the jambo
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SORRY DOUBLE POST
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Hi again, after a little more research I have Mary Kerr b1781 died 7Dec 1857 whithorn (married Hawthorn Agnew 1802 Whithorn wigton ) she was the daughter of
John Kerr b1744 and Mary Dunse b1747
Farm Labourer
wonder if this fits with anyone
I also have a copy off SP a death certificate for a mary Kerr april 28 1859 parish of Rerrick father Micheal and mother Agnes Car???on can't make the maiden name out sorry if it links with anyone let me know and I will e/m it to you
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Hello Fellow Kerr researchists!
I take the second name Kerr from my Grandfather Peter Kerr Murphy. Along the way there is my Jane Kerr of Glasgow (1851-1923). Her father was Samuel Kerr (1813-1876) born in Kirkudbrighthire who married Jane McDonald (1815-1901). Samuel's wife was Agnes Munsie. It is Samuel's parents that I am trying to identify. Any assistance would be great. Kind regards. Brennan Kerr Nelson.
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HI
Hello Fellow Kerr researchists!
I take the second name Kerr from my Grandfather Peter Kerr Murphy. Along the way there is my Jane Kerr of Glasgow (1851-1923). Her father was Samuel Kerr (1813-1876) born in Kirkudbrighthire who married Jane McDonald (1815-1901). Samuel's wife was Agnes Munsie. It is Samuel's parents that I am trying to identify. Any assistance would be great. Kind regards. Brennan Kerr Nelson.
Hi the only kerr born 1813 within these parameters on SP are Samuel Kerr 11/5/1816 PARENTS Robert Kerr /Janet Shennan Parish URR
parameters between 1st jan 1810 -31 dec 1854 in Kirkcudbright
Gross data for this is 884/00
0010
0071
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Hello there. Many thaks for taking time to reply to me. I have Samuel Kerr's death certificate, 21 February 1876, showing Samuel's father, Samuel, as a master shoemaker and mother Agnes Munsie. The death certificate was from Glasgow Anderston. It can get very confusing ...
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This is probably another Branch of the family possibly cousins or may not even be related just from the same area ,I have seen the shoemaker on some of the cenus records as I have been hunting if I find anything that I think will be useful to you I will pass it on .
Angus
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Many thanks Angus. Be well. Brennan
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Just found this it may be relevant to Kerr in Glasgow
John Kerr tried on 4 May 1827 for Murder and Executed on Wed 6 June :o
http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/scot1800.html
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Just found this it may be relevant to Kerr in Glasgow
John Kerr tried on 4 May 1827 for Murder and Executed on Wed 6 June :o
http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/scot1800.html
Although he doesn't appear to be directly related, this post reminds me of something Mum said many times about my Kerr ancestors: "Our Kerrs were either barristers, preachers, or hanged as horse-thieves or murderers ... all cut from the same cloth, I'd say!"
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Hello there. And the Kerrs were not unique in the plunderings. Your should read about my MacDonalds. Now they knew how to murder. Even their own families! And that's why we have Nova Scotia packed with MacDonalds. ::) By the way I have a few John Kerrs in my tree ...