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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cornwall => Topic started by: cheshiremog on Thursday 21 June 07 00:06 BST (UK)
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Has anyone come across the name De Rescorla possibly De Rescorth ? I came across a grave at St Minver:-
Jenefer wife of Julian of Trevigo in the parish of Laniyett? died 15 June 1838? (44?) only child of George De Rescorth ? Rescorla ? Who is the LAST representative of this ancient family. De Rescorla of Rescorla near Saint Austell in this county.
Can anyone tell me what the surname was ? And was it George or was it Jenefer who were the last of this line? (I mean - did Jenefer die after or before her father George. Or any history about the name and line would be very interesting - I guess it goes back a long way if they were part of an ancient family.
And finally - who was Julian of Trevigo?
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Hi cheshiremog,
For starters I see
Jenifer JULIAN died Jun 1/4 1838 Bodmin 9 31
Thomas JULIAN = Jenipher RESCOLA 2 Jan 1813 Roche
Rescorla of Rescorla in St. Austell. — George Rescorla, the representative of this reduced family, is a day-labourer at Roche.
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=50617
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=50629
St Minver 1841 census
HO107/152/12 Folio 9 Page 11
Trevigor
St Minver
JULIAN Thos 50 Y (yes born in County) Farmer
JULIAN Jeremiah 20 Y
JULIAN Jane 13 Y
JULIAN Mary 25 Y Female Servant
RESCORLA George 70 Y Assistant
+ Servants
I presume since George only had the daughter, she was the last this Rescorla line as her children were Julian's. I can't see anything in the Herald's Visitations.
Looks like CRO hold some papers on the family in St Austell
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01o0/
You will find a few earlier entries on the St Austell site
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell/
Not having any luck with Jenifer's Birth. This is the only marriage I have found for a George in the right era
George ROSCORLAH OTP Sojourner = Mary ROACH by Banns 22 Jan 1793 Luxulyan George signed (George Rescorla) Mary signed with her mark. witnesses Humphrey Bale and John Roach
Cheers Kris :D
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Dear Kris
Thanks for all the amazing information. Sounds like they were a prominent family in the area and that George may have been the last. I was just intrigued - thats all - I wonder if anyone out there is looking at this family?
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There are about 33 Rescorl(e/er/a)s on the 1841 census in Cornwall, about 52 mostly born Cornwall on the 1901 census and about 92 today (plus 42 Rescorl, 23 Rescorle).
http://www.taliesin-arlein.net/names/search.php
Regards
Valda
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Pleased to hear that they are still about :D
It was such an odd inscription
Thanks
mog
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There was a Mick/Nick/Rick Rescorla who was quite a hero in the bombing of the Twin Towers. He got lots of others out and lost his own life I believe. He was Cornish.
Fizzy
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The Rescorla/Roscorla/Rescorl/Rescorle name is solidly Cornish. Cornish, an old Celtic langauge has been in the UK for probably 1500 years and Cornwall was one of the old kingdoms of these islands.
Rescorla is a name born out of locality and there are 2 locations with the name; Rescorla village and Rescorla farm both in Cornwall and just a few miles apart. The earliest mention of the place name was in 1311 and the earliest use as a surname is was in the mid 1500s. Please Google Michael Rescorle and read the article about the Rescorle Surname for further information.
Rescorlas (and various spellings) were Yeoman - people in between the landowners and the tenant farmers. I have never heard of De Rescorla but it sounds like someone tried to sex up their name - and failed. The De prefix is not Cornish!!
Michael Rescorle
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RootsChat never fails to amaze me !
Here's a question posted two years ago about an obscure, and possibly extinct Cornish family, and the next posting is from one of the family !
Quite extra-ordinary !
Welcome to RootsChat Michael !!
I've got Cornish/Devon Pomeroys (spelled various ways) going back to before the 1500's, and one or two of them had 'de la' before their name, a throwback to their Norman ancestors I suppose ...
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Further to this conversation, I am from the same family at birth the surname was 'Rescorle' but when, as the family story goes, Grandfather came to Australia, he changed his name spelling to 'Roscarel'. This branch now travels under the changed name.
I have found that the transcription of the older day writing, some hard to read, has also had some imput as to the spelling of names.
Thank you.
Lee
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Lee,
This is fascinating and it would be good to talk. My brother and I have traced the Rescorle diaspora from the late 1880s and discovered those who emigrated to the USA, Canada and Australia. The world wide tree now stands at over 1150 names covering hundreds of marriages and surnames through 18 generations back to 1530.
However, while we have traced ancestors in Australia we have not found those who still carry the family name or derivatives there of. The first to emigrate was John Rescorl who was a master mariner from Fowey Cornwall. He arrived in NSW in the 1870s and we are in touch with descendants of his daughter who are now called Winn.
We are aware of Rescorls who still live in Sydney but have not made contact so we would be delighted to talk or follow up any leads you may be able to give us about Rescorles/Rescorls or any alternate spellings.
Kind regards.
Michael Rescorle
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Still not sure about the de or de la prefix!
De in the old Cornish language means 'yesterday' but unless it was used to also mean 'old' I do not see how or why it would be put before a family or place name! Anyone got any ideas?
Is most probably from French meaning 'of the' so De La Reskorlann would be 'of the enclosure by the river course/ford'. But, I have never seen these words written in this context and often De La before a French surname simply means 'The' a bit like Al before Arab names i.e. 'The (family name)'.
Most interesting bit is whether the 2 place carrying the name in Cornwall - Rescorla farm and Rescorla village - were in fact settled by Normans who brought the name with them? Or, and more likely, they took their surnames from local Cornish (Celtic) places where they settled.
Michael
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Yes Michael, check with Trevor as I have been speaking with him regarding the Aust. branches.
Lee
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There was a Mick/Nick/Rick Rescorla who was quite a hero in the bombing of the Twin Towers. He got lots of others out and lost his own life I believe. He was Cornish.
Fizzy
Rick Rescorla of Twin Towers fame came from Hayle in Cornwall
Ellen
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Hello!! :)
I've just joined this site today and have been having a quick look at the Cornish page.
My Great Grandmother was Eliza Mary Roscorla. She was born in St.Erth in 1884. I've only got as far back as Phillip Roscollar (G.G.G. Grandfather) born 1816 in Breage. There were a lot of Roscorlas' around this area of Cornwall.
I heard about Rick Rescorla and traced his family back but they are a different branch to my family despite coming from Hayle which is where Eliza Mary, her children and my mother lived.
Anne :-)
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Welcome Anne,
I think we may be from different trees.
I do not have any Eliza or Philip on my tree.
There are many var. Rescorl.........etc. so keep trying.
The Rick from the Twin Towers is not on my tree either.
It is all very interesting, and particularly when you get a hit.
Cheers,
Lee
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There was a Mick/Nick/Rick Rescorla who was quite a hero in the bombing of the Twin Towers. He got lots of others out and lost his own life I believe. He was Cornish.
Rick Rescorla of Twin Towers fame came from Hayle in Cornwall
There is a memorial to Rick Rescorla on the grass bank that overlooks the harbour opposite Penpol Terrace in Hayle, Cornwall..
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I'm looking at the Thomas Julian and Jenefer Rescorla family at the moment and if anyone has any information on this family please reply.
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Hi I am not sure if anyone still looks at this but I am a descendant of John Rescorl. My Grandfather was Charly Rescorl who died in 1966 He was married to Emily Maude. His sister married a Winn ' The family had a major department store in Sydney during the 60s His son was John Charles Rescorl who was killed in Battle of the Muar River in Malaya at the beginning of WW2. My sister is Susan Jane Rescorl Stevenson
This may help someone thanks John