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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: oldtimer on Monday 30 July 07 17:47 BST (UK)
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Hi Folks
This is a bit of a long shot! This photo was found amongst my great uncle's effects after his death in the USA. The family originally came from Milnrow, near Rochdale, and I wondered if anyone recognised it (providing it still exists), as it may have been the mill where his parents worked. It must have had some significance for him to keep a photo of him. Unfortunately I do not have the original, but I was told that there is no writing on the back.
Thanks!
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Can I suggest that you contact Rochdale Local Studies Centre about the picture. Their email address is localstudies@rochdale.gov.uk I am sure they would be able to help you identify the mill. If they can't they may be able to put you in touch with someone who can.
Margaret
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Thanks Margaret! That is a fantastic idea! I will do that straight away!!!
Cheers!!! :D :D
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Hi. I live in Milnrow, I dont know the name of the mill, but Im almost certain that the mill used to be the premises of Tomlinsons Engineering closed in 1989. It now houses Budget Greetings Cards. The address is 34, Newhey Rd, Milnrow, Rochdale , OL16 3NR I hope you find this a help.
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Thank you Prawn, - that is fantastic!
I will use the address you have given me to see it on Google maps and see what it looks like today.
I presune that before it was an engineering works it would have been a cotton mill - I'm guessing that it was where my family worked.
Thank you again!
Judy ;)
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Hi Judy, its me again. A bit more info for you, the mill is called Albert Mill. I found this snippet on the Graces Guide website Under Woollen Manufacturers. Its from 1891 probably before what you want, but you may be able to branch out fron here.
Wlliam Clegg, Albert Mills; 250 looms, flannels. Pay day third Wednesday, 10 to 12. Telegrams, "Clegg, Milnrow." 'Telephone No., 6.
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hi Prawn
Thank you very much for the additional information.
It is quite exciting for me, as it is the Clegg family from Milnrow that I am researching!
It seems quite likely that this William Clegg was a family member, though of course I realize that Clegg is quite a common name in Rochdale.
But there must have been a reason that my great uncle Clegg took a photo of the mill with him to America.
Thank you again for finding the information for me! Much appreciated.
Judy
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Hi just come across your photo of Albert Mill
William Clegg the owner was my great great grand father. He had a daughter called Molly Clegg who married Robert Whitworth another mill owner and two sons Edward and Emanuel .The Clegg mill and the Clegg share of Ellen Road Mill ended up with the Whitworths. The Whitworths have a faily detailed family tree drawn up around 1910, and I have a fair amount of their history including some Clegg history which I would be happy to e mail you if it is relevant to your enquires.
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Hi
Just seen your post re the Whitworths have you any connection with Grace Whitworth who married Joseph Taylor around 1795 ,they lived in Milnrow
Dotty
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Hi irmck :D
Thanks very much for your message. I have pmed you.
To reply by pm you will need to make two more posts on the board
Judy :D
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I dont think thee is a Grace Whitworth on the tree, but I will check and post if there is. Wont be before Saturday as I dont have it to hand
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Hello All,
Just seen this post after a brief google search on the history of albert mill. I am currently running a business from the mill in one of the many rented units it has now been internally split into. We work late hours sometimes into the early hours and last night my partner came to work with me throughout the night.
She continuously said she could hear voices inparticularly a ballroom and harp music playing. she is not in anyway psychic or interested in anything of this nature but has on a previous occasion heard and felt things about other unrelated premesis in the past that turned out to be built on prisons and burrial sites. (I heard nothing, however she was adament it was so clear that it prompted me to investigate)
I did a private search of google to see if it turned up anything of this nature in connection with albert mill or the grounds it is built upon. Hence it lead me to this thread which i now find my bizzare post being written in.
I am interested in any historical information relating to the mill and its origins over the years.
Pete
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Hi there
I have read this thread with interest.
My granny Rosemary was adopted by Jo Henry and Emily Clegg around 1920. She was Rosemary Clegg but often called Mollie.
Jo Henry was a mill owner in Milnrow.
I would love to find out more about where the mill was.
Do any of you researching your Milnrow Clegg family have any other leads at all?
Best wishes
Danu
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Hi Danu,
Sorry to say that Jo Henry and Emily Clegg don't appear in my tree. Clegg was (and is) a very common name in the Rochdale area.
Have you tried looking in old directories to see if you can find the name of the mill your ancestor owned?
You could start a new topic on the Lancashire board and see if anyone has any information, or can help you.
Good luck!
Judy
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Thank you so much anyway Judy.
Yes, it is a very common name in that area.
Think his full first name was Joseph and their mill was in Milnrow itself. I believe as the owner of the mill he should be relatively easy to find but have been looking on and off over the years in various places to no avail.
Best wishes
Danu
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New thread here with replies re Joseph Henry Clegg
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=808870.msg6683800#msg6683800
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For the Albert Mill Cleggs, I just did a look through of old newspapers, and there might be something here of interest (or not!):
The first entry in the newspapers I could find was in 1860, where the workers at Albert Mill were discontented and went on strike. Apparently they were paid less than other mills, and a few weeks prior the warps were increased in length by four yards, plus "other encroachments in the shape of wider warps and more picks". Apparently Mr Clegg was scornful at first, but after four days, the workers were paid the same as other mills and over length as well.
The newspapers are full of ads looking for cotton weavers, woolen weavers, woolen spinners, woolen dressers, miller and scourer for flannels, firemen, finishers, carters, etc over the years. All were to apply to William Clegg.
Heywood Advertiser 02 September 1898 reports of a minor fire on "the second story of the old portion of Messrs. Clegg's Albert Mill". The fire was in the wooldrying room and was caused by some material kept in the machine overheating.
Rochdale Observer 29 April 1914
EMPLOYEE'S TRIP- On Saturday the work-
people employed at Messrs. E. and E. Clegg's
Albert Mills, Milnrow, were treated by their
employers to an outing to Blackpool. The
visit was made in celebration of the recent
marriage of Mr. Emanuel Clegg of Cliff House,
Milnrow (the senior partner in the firm). Each
of the employees was presented with a free
railway ticket and 5s. in money. The outgoing
journey was comenced at 8 10 a.m. The day
was gloriously fine at Blackpool, where the
trippers were set free to enjoy themselves to
their hearts' content, which all of the did.
The return journey started just after eleven
o'clock, and home was reached about 1 30 on
Sunday morning. Flags floated on the mills of
Messrs. Clegg in honour of the event.
Rochdale Observer 31 March 1917
WILLIAM CLEGG LIMITED
The flannel manufactoring business carried
on at Albert Mills, Milnrow, under the style
of William Clegg, has been converted into a
private company, "William Clegg Lts." The
capital is £160,000 in pound shares.
The objects of the company are stated to be
to take over as a going concern the business
of flannel manufactureers, dyers, finishers, and
fellmongers carried on at Albert Mills, Miln-
row, by Emanuel and Edward Clegg, under the
style of William Clegg and all the assets and
liabilities thereof.
The signatories of the memorandum of asso-
ciation are Mr. Emanuel Clegg and Mr. Percy
Whitworth. Ther are to be not less than two
nor more than five directors, and Messrs.
Emanuel and Edward Clegg are permanent
directors. The qualification of other directors
is to be the holding of 250 shares.
The fees for the registration of the company
amount to £433.
05 February 1946 - Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer
SALE BY TENDER
LANCASHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL
ALBERT MILLS, MILNROW., SALE BY
TENDER, VACANT POSSESSION
Albert Mills, Milnrow, near Rochdale, com-
prising a large substantially constructed three
storey Mill with subsidiary buildings and
separate cottage or office block. Total floor
space of Mill, approximately 2,700 square
yards. Total contents of land 13,036 square
yards or thereabouts, freehold and free from
ground rent, subject to contract. Permission
to view from the Clerk of the Milnrow Urban
District Council, Council Offices, Milnrow.
TENDERS should be sent to the undersigned
on or before the 1st MARCH.
R.H. ADCOCK, Clerk of the County Council
County Offices, Preston
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Thank you, that makes for such interesting reading. I really appreciate you searching for that and sharing it.
I do wonder if Jo Henry was a descendant of William and Emmanuel.
Mysterious!
Many thanks indeed again!
Danu
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Hi ! from my bedroom window I can see this mill, please let me know if you’d like an update as of 2021, it has re opened in the past 3 years with lots of local businesses inside.