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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: Aussie Roy on Sunday 26 August 07 10:48 BST (UK)
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I'm having problems, probably obvious with Smiths Seeking ancestors of my maternal grandma Agnes Jane Hussey nee Smith I've searched IGI, ancestry.com and the genealogist.com
Facts Born Feb 1882 Lambeth Died 1968 Middx . Married William Hussey 1902
Search for Agnes Jane Smith 1901 census returns ' no match ' But plain Agnes Smith returns many. The best fit being 20yrs
should be 19
servant to Harrises Southwark I'm confident that this is the right one because 1891 census brings family James W. Smith b. 1855 head Agnes 9 Mother Emily ? b.1856 living at Newington. In 1901 census Agnes is not with them. Trying to find maiden name of Emily, but can't find marriage . Emily born Chelmsford Essex. Previous generation James Smith b.1828 head 1861 wife Rebecca ? b.1832. Essex Need help with maiden names marriages and deaths.
Roy
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Hi
Married William Hussey 1902
Not clear from the other info if you know who Agnes' Father was from the Marriage Cert of her and W. Hussey ?
IE Is he the James W b1855 you found in the 1891 census ?
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Heres an alternative - who better matches the FreeBMD entry for an Agnes Jane born Lambeth .. .. shown here
Births Mar 1882
Smith Agnes Jane Lambeth Vol 1d Page 385
1891 - RG12/350; Folio 14; Page 19 - Southwark, St George The Martyr
George Alfred SMITH 35 Head Working Jeweller Gold London Hatton Garden
Martha Jane 32 Wife Bermondsey
Henry George 13 son Lambeth
Agnes Jane 9 dau Lambeth
Tom 7 son do
Maude 5 dau Walworth
Jessie 1 dau Southwark
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Hi
Married William Hussey 1902
Not clear from the other info if you know who Agnes' Father was from the Marriage Cert of her and W. Hussey ?
IE Is he the James W b1855 you found in the 1891 census ?
Thanks Newf
I'm in Western Australia and just working from memory of my Granparents . I haven't seen the cert. I'm just hoping that James W. is the right one. The area is right and working class. I do know that she was in service as a maid.
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Heres an alternative - who better matches the FreeBMD entry for an Agnes Jane born Lambeth .. .. shown here
Births Mar 1882
Smith Agnes Jane Lambeth Vol 1d Page 385
1891 - RG12/350; Folio 14; Page 19 - Southwark, St George The Martyr
George Alfred SMITH 35 Head Working Jeweller Gold London Hatton Garden
Martha Jane 32 Wife Bermondsey
Henry George 13 son Lambeth
Agnes Jane 9 dau Lambeth
Tom 7 son do
Maude 5 dau Walworth
Jessie 1 dau Southwark
Thanks for the suggestion. I'm a bit doubtful about the jeweller bit. I don't recall her mentioning that. She married a brewers labourer.
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which gives an alternative in 1901 ...
RG13/380; Folio: 34; Page: 9 - Newington
6, Blackwood Street
In Service with the Haydons
Agnes Smith 19 General Domestic Servant born Walworth ....
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Just seen your reply.
A 'working Jeweller' doesnt mean he owned a Jewellers - he was as 'working class' as the rest of the street !
You really need to get the 1902 Marriage Cert and verify her Fathers name .....
Marriages Jun 1902
Hussey William Lambeth Vol 1d Page 547 to Smith Agnes Jane
Order here - http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
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Just seen your reply.
A 'working Jeweller' doesnt mean he owned a Jewellers - he was as 'working class' as the rest of the street !
You really need to get the 1902 Marriage Cert and verify her Fathers name .....
Marriages Jun 1902
Hussey William Lambeth Vol 1d Page 547 to Smith Agnes Jane
Order here - http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Thanks for the link. Unfortunately they don't accept payment by Visa electon , which is all I have. I have emailed relatives in England and asked them to get it for me. It's a pity that one cannot pay and then view certs. Might be available one day. Roy
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I now have information from family sources. Agnes Jane's father was George Alfred Smith b.1856 - jeweler. as Newf found 1891 census. Now can't find in1901 census. Agnes may have gone into service with Harrises. The only George Alfred Smith I find is in Bromley Workhouse.
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Thanks to all who have contributed. All Smith ancestors of Agnes Jane Smith have now been traced to E.Knoyle, Wiltshire 1688. Alfred George is still a mystery, not found 1901 census, nor any death record. I have a photograph taken about 1920 in Harlesden Middx at home of Agnes and William Hussey.
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Hi there are you still interested in Christopher Hussey. He was the illegitimate son of Mary Hussey and was christened at the new Meeting House (Unitarian Church) in Bridport. There is no record of his father but a possibility is that his father was a Robert Copp of Wooton Fitzpaine, Dorset. The Husseys are my relatives as is Christopher who died on the Safrina Boat in Bridport harbour he fell from the birds nest triangle. My relatives moved to London and hen to Letchworth in the 40s
best
Colin