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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Roscommon => Topic started by: vaison on Tuesday 28 August 07 16:27 BST (UK)
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Hi,
Trying to find any info relating to Thomas Morrisroe, born c. 1851 in the Ballaghaderreen area. He was the son of Thomas Morriroe, who worked as a stonemason. He emigrated to England and settled near Sheffield. He married Annie Hague in 1888 and they had at least 5 children:
Mary 1887
Alice 1890
James Douglas 1892
Catherine 1894
Bernard 1896
Thanks for any information at all re. him or his family
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Hello Vaison,
What denomination was the Morrisroe.family ? Were they members of the Catholic faith, the Established Church (Anglicans or Church of Ireland), Methodists or Presbyterians?
You'll have to rely on Church records as civil registration in Ireland was not introduced until 1864. Non Catholic marriages were registered from 1845 onwards. When registration for BDMS started in 1864 some people didn't bother with the registration for a few years after that date. Keep your fingers crossed that church records still exist.
Morrisroe - 1857-8 Griffith's Valuation - Co. Roscommon on John Hayes failteromhat.com
Owen, Curraghsallagh, Tibohine
Patrick, Cloonargid, Tibohine
Thomas, Cloonshanville, Tibohine
Nabbey, Rathkeery, Tibohine
James, Curraghsallagh, Tibohine
David, Curraghsallagh, Tibohine
Rep. Gilbert, Curraghsallagh, Tibohine
Andrew, Curraghsallagh, Tibohine
Christopher
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Do you happen to know: did your Thomas have relatives (brothers James and Bartholomew}? My ancester John Patrick McDonagh b1862 in Ballinafad, Roscommon emigrated to Sheffield area with his two Morrisroe cousins prior to 1900. If you have any info, it will be much appreciated. Thanks FrankO
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Hi,
Sorry for the delay. We have been away.
The info I have is that Thos. Morrisroe married Ann hague in 1888 in Barnsley, Yorks. His age is given as 37 and residence as Tankersley, Yorks. Father's name is also Thos. (deceased Stonemason). One of thw witnesses is martin Morrisroe.
1891 census shows him living in Tankersley and 1901 in Rotherham. His childrens' names are Mary, Alice, James, Catherine. Bernard.
I'm not sure if this is any use to you. If you find anything interesting, please let me know.
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my grandfather was edward morrisroe and my greatgrandfather was bartholomew morrisroe and my morther was morrisroe and they lived in ballinafad sligo and they did emigrate to sheffield and my greatgrand father returned to sligo but three brothers stayed in sheffield and joined the police. I am also told they had a sister and her married named was alcock
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I wouldn't think there'd be a batch of Bartholomew Morrisroes....do you happen to have his brother's names? As I said my graet grand father John Patrick McDonagh left for Sheffield with two of his cousins...They first were put up at St Vincents on Solly St Sheffield and the John P moved to Oughtibridge. Later he married a Hodkin and thought enough about his cousins that he named his first son Bartholomew and another James. Other family names were Kane and Spelman. Any connection? FrankO
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bartholomew morrisroe born about 1863 and his wife was mary ann crofton born about 1841 barried in about 1861/62 in sligo. They had six children james born in 1863, eliza maria born 1865, bartholomew born 1870 john born 1871 dominic born 1875 (cannot find any information on him) edward my granfather born 1877 died 1962. Batholomew born 1836 listed in the english census of 1881 as living in Wharncliffe, Sheffield working as a labourer at Dixons's Paper Mill. His son Jmaes 1863 joins him in Wharncliffe Side 1881 at the age of 18. The three brothers James, John, and Bartholomew all moved to Sheffield around 1892 living together in Burngreave Bank Sheffiled. Eliza lived in the City of Philadelphia,, Massachusetts USA for some time around 1881 to 1890 before arriving in Sheffiled in 1892. It is thought that Bartholomew their father returned to Sligo (broher is the townland) near ballinafad as he is listed in the census as living their in 19902 age 65 with his wife mary ann crofton. I have been shown the house my grandfather was born in and I assume that is where my great grandparents lived as well. I was only very young when my grandfather died but i do remember him being very tall and i believe he was 6ft 2' and he smoked a pipe until he died. I also believe he had relations in ballinafad called Healy's and his wife was Ann Taheny a local woman.
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By Jove this is getting all the better. My John Patrick McDonagh also worked at Dixon's Paper Mill in maintenance. I believe he lived in a house on the grounds which I assumed was owned by his employer. I have a photo of Ms Dixon, her daughter and my great grand dad JP giving a mill tour. Also a photo of his family circa 1909 in a yard on the mill grounds.
Was your grand father born in Ireland or England?..I couldn't quite tell by your writing. I am truly trying to confirm that it was in fact Ballinafad where JP was born. You had mention about two or three brothers later becoming policemen..ironically we thought JP and his cousins fled Ireland after selling off his parent's cow without their permission. FrankO
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Mary Ann Crofton was a sponsor at my gf's baptism at Drumrat. His name was James Clarke and he was one of 14 children born to Patrick Clarke and Catherine Connor in Brougher, Ballinafad.
Catherine Connor's mother was Mary Connor (nee Healy) from Cloghoge.There is also a Dominick Morrisroe cited as sponsor at baptism to my great aunt Catherine. Does anyone have any info on an Ellen Morrisroe who married Michael Clarke on 7/05/1849 Drumrat? I believe that some of the Clarkes also went to Yorkshire and were stone masons. Any help appreciated.
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brougher ballinafad is in sligo and i wil look up some information later this evening for you.
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I believe I've closed the gap in connecting my JP McDonagh and his Morrisroe cousins (James and Bartholomew). Recently came upon a marriage between Michael McDonagh and Sarah Morrisroe. They had a daughter Anne in 1866 in Boyle area. I believe these are also the parents of my great grand father John P. McD. Later I know they lived at Derrygolagh which I can see is near Brougher.
I was really excited to see that connection with Dixon's Mill. As I mentioned JP also worked there in 1890's-1930's. My bet is that your great grandfather got him the position and was likely his Uncle on his mother's side. Any thoughts on the matter? FrankO
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Mary Ann Crofton was a sponsor at my gf's baptism at Drumrat. His name was James Clarke and he was one of 14 children born to Patrick Clarke and Catherine Connor in Brougher, Ballinafad.
Catherine Connor's mother was Mary Connor (nee Healy) from Cloghoge.There is also a Dominick Morrisroe cited as sponsor at baptism to my great aunt Catherine. Does anyone have any info on an Ellen Morrisroe who married Michael Clarke on 7/05/1849 Drumrat? I believe that some of the Clarkes also went to Yorkshire and were stone masons. Any help appreciated.
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do you have any information on Dominic Morrisroe as we are not able to trace him from Brougher and where he went to.
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Sorry no I don't have any more info to go on only that he is mentioned as one of the sponsors on the church baptism record of my gf James Clarke and his name is spelt Dominick Morrisroe. The other sponsor was Maria Anna Crofton. This was in July 1896.
I have found the Clarkes on 1901 and 1911 census forms but am still trying to link them up with Morrisroe and Candon names.
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Hello , I saw your note on Roots chat.com . My Grandfather was Barthelemew. I thought he came from England but Originally from Co.Mayo Ireland.Settled in Boston and was a Teamster. Met and Married Elizabeth Daveren. They Had a Son Gerald L.Morrisroe whom was my Father. Please let me know if there are any questions?
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I suppose my question is whether or not your Bartholomew is the same as the Bartholomew listed in Crofton's 6/25/09 message. That Bartholomew Morrisroe was born in 1870 and along with his two
brothers lived in Sheffield around the turn of the century. Their father was also Bartholomew b 1836 and he worked at Dixon's Paper Mill...which is the connection with my great grand father John Patrick McDonagh. John Patrick emigrated from Derrygolagh (Roscommon or Sligo?) and worked his life at Dixon's. It was his cousins Morrisroe who he arrived with..and no surprise that he eventually named his sons Bartholomew, James and John. I strongly suspect that his mother was Sara Morrisroe who was married to Michael Mcdonagh. Anyway it this is the same Bartholomew as yours, it would mean he later moved on to the US. Any of this seem to fit? FrankO
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I read your post with great interest. Based upon a conversation with my 88-year-old father, Bartholomew J. Morrisroe, I believe that you and my father are probably first cousins. My father's grandfather, Bartholomew J. Morrisroe, immigrated from Sligo to Boston at the turn of the 20th century. He was a Teamster in Boston. According to my father's information, his grandfather Bartholomew was married twice. His first wife was named Elizabeth [maiden name unknown] and his second wife was named Bridget Donahue. Between the two wives, Bartholomew fathered four sons. The sons were named Bartholomew Jr, George, Gerald, and Joseph. Bartholomew Jr. was my father's father (my grandfather).
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I read your post with great interest. Based upon a conversation with my 88-year-old father, Bartholomew J. Morrisroe, I believe that you and my father are probably first cousins. My father's grandfather, Bartholomew J. Morrisroe, immigrated from Sligo to Boston at the turn of the 20th century. He was a Teamster in Boston. According to my father's information, his grandfather Bartholomew was married twice. His first wife was named Elizabeth [maiden name unknown] and his second wife was named Bridget Donahue. Between the two wives, Bartholomew fathered four sons. The sons were named Bartholomew Jr, George, Gerald, and Joseph. Bartholomew Jr. was my father's father (my grandfather).
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actually my great grand father was your great grand father's first cousin if my assumed connections are correct. He was John P. McDonagh and he arrived in Sheffield region around 1900 along with James, John and Bartholomew Morrisroe. It appears that they worked for a time at Dixon's mill which is a paper mill near Oughtibridge. My great grand father stayed there and married a local woman named Hodkin; whereas the Morrisroes may have moved on..though one note says they became local policemen. I strongly suspect that John P Mc's parents were Michael McDonagh and Sara Morrisroe from Brogher/Derrygolagh area in Sligo/Roscommon. I recall finding them in either the 1901 or 1911 census which is online.
It appears you're more closely related toCrofton based on his 6/25/09 entry. His grand father (Edward) and your great grand father (Bartholomew) were brothers. They also had sister Eliza who appears to have lived at least for a while in Phila or Mass. If it was Mass..maybe that's what drew Bartholomew to there as well.
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Very interesting, Fomlor. Actually, my original comment (although I was not clear) was directed to Kcplayful. I can confirm almost all of what he said in his last post. I was completely unaware of the information that you have, which, of course, is the value of this discussion group. As I understand it, my great-grandfather Bartholomew was conscripted by the British Royal Navy to fight in the Second Boer War (1899-1902). He emigrated to Boston directly from South Africa immediately following his service. My father Bartholomew is not certain if his grandfather was living in Sligo at the time of his conscription or not. (As you can see from reading this thread, the name 'Bartholomew" was passed down for many generations right up until the present day. My older brother is also named Bartholomew. I had no idea the name goes all the way back to at least the 1830s.)
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if its any help..I recall that my JP McDonagh may be in sheffield by the 1890 census which puts him in UK earlier than I suggested. Just can't find my reference at this point. Nevertheless that would mean that your Bartholomew was also likely in UK and so explains the consription. Besides, though they may have been permitted to enlist, I wouldn't bet that the Irish (in Ireland) were consripted at that time.
In fact in Crofton's note it says that Bartholomew Morrisroe b 1836 was already in Wharncliffe, Sheffield in 1881 (he's the father of Bartholomew b 1870). Looks like senior went to UK first then was followed by his sons...later senior returned to Ireland.
You're right about the reoccuring Bartholomew name. I mentioned earlier that my JP named his first son Bartholomew...later following up with other sons John and James..just too many coincidences I'd say.
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FOMLOR, are you Frank (Michele's cousin) ?
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Mike, one in the same. My entries on this site pretty much include all the info I have on our Morrisroe connections. If in reviewing you get any further insights, I'd be anxious to hear them. Good luck and welcome aboard. FrankO
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Great
Did Mich mention that i'll be in Co. Sligo w/end after next? I'm visiting Temeplvanny, Brougher, Carrowcrory, and St Kevin's ChHurch (Keash) and the Traveller's Rest on the main road to Ballymote
If you want any questions answered, let me know and I'll try and ask
I'm also seeing the McD's in Ballinafad ....
[being careful to not explicitly name living people here, which I think is against their rules]
M
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Mike, I'll be in touch via your email address. Thanks
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KCplayful: Please contact me on this thread. It seems that my father, Bartholomew J. Morrisroe, and you share the same grandfather. More to the point, your father and my father's father (also Bartholomew J. Morrisroe) were half-brothers, both having been fathered by Bartholomew J. Morrisroe. The elder Bartholomew Morrisroe in the family tree emigrated to Boston, MA from Sligo at the end of the 19th century.
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Frank, I'm Batty Mcdonaghs grandson in America. JP was my great grandfather. Did you ever find out where he was born and was his father Michael?