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Title: Morgan Family
Post by: SiobhanAE on Wednesday 05 September 07 19:25 BST (UK)
1861,1871,1891.Census Look up for the family of William  and Christina MORGAN  13 Mount Street, Wrexham Regis Denbighs

thank you
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 06 September 07 09:12 BST (UK)
there is a william morgan living at 37 mount street in 1861
there is a completely different family living at 13 mount street
william morgan is living with a margaret morgan.
if you want me to post the full entry for this couple i will happily do so
they have a son william born 1848. could this be the william who is with christina in 1881
RG9/4287/9/18/ 1861 census.
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 06 September 07 09:27 BST (UK)
could only find the pair in 1881 i take it by your post that you already have that information.
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: SiobhanAE on Thursday 06 September 07 09:41 BST (UK)
thank you so much..My Morgans are the ones at number 13..and if I can drag my mum out today we shall drive the 60 miles and have lunch in the local pub.. I live in the States so this would be a great way to finish my trip.. Thanks again
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: SiobhanAE on Thursday 06 September 07 09:46 BST (UK)
OH just re-read your post...possibly the William Morgan from 37 Mount St was 'my ' William's father...oh yes.. could you sent me those details too???? ::)

The trouble with my family is they didn't have much imagination when it came to names !!!!
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 06 September 07 10:05 BST (UK)
1861 RG9/4287/9/18.
william morgan age 47. b. oswestry,shropshire. head. occ. forgeman.
margaret morgan age 54. b. whittington,shropshire. wife.
ann cath. morgan age 19. b. wrexham. daughter. occ. dressmaker.
jane.p.morgan age 17. b. wrexham. daughter. occ. general servant.
thomas morgan age 15. b. wrexham. son. occ(looks like)painter.
william morgan age 13. b. wrexham. son.
edward morgan age 10. b. wrexham. son.
charles browning age 20. b. limerick,ireland. visitor.
sophia browning age 17. b. limerick,ireland. visitor.
living at 37 mount street,wrexham regis,wrexham
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: SiobhanAE on Thursday 06 September 07 10:20 BST (UK)
thanks for that info...any chance of them in 1871... ?

Siobhán :D
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: Paul on Thursday 06 September 07 17:34 BST (UK)
Hello Siobhan.
On free bmd there is a marriage of a William Morgan and a Christiana Hughes, Dec Q 1867. Liverpool. 8b 248. Could this be them?

Paul.
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: SiobhanAE on Thursday 06 September 07 18:08 BST (UK)
oh yesss sounds like them  Free BMd??? I accessed  the lancs free...but couldn't find them
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: Paul on Thursday 06 September 07 23:45 BST (UK)
Wrexham baptisms for the children of William and Margaret Morgan. Abode Kingsmill?. Fathers Occ, Forgeman.
Oct 9 1842. Anne Catherine.
March 31 1844. Jane Prunella.
Sep 20 1846. Thomas.
April 8 1849. WILLIAM.
March 23 1851. Edward. Fathers Occ, Publican.

On the 1881 Williams wife Christina's birthplace is Holt.
Holt baptisms.
April 18 1845 Christiana D/O Vaughan & Sarah Hughes. Abode, Holt. Fathers Occ, Bricklayer.
Siblings.
Sep 17 1843. Edward.
Oct 11 1841. William.
March 15 1840. Christiana. Burial April 10 1843. Age 3 years.
Sep 30 1838. Edward. Burial. April 27 1843. Age 4 years.

Paul.

Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: wozzle on Friday 07 September 07 07:38 BST (UK)
1871 RG10/5657/118/30.
william morgan. age 55. b. llantysilio,montgomeryshire. occ. forgeman. head.
margaret morgan age 63. b. whittington,shropshire. wife.
ann.c.morgan age 29. b. kings mills,denbighshire. occ. milliner and dressmaker. daughter.
jane pawlina(paulina) morgan age 27. b. kings mills,denbighshire. occ. dressmaker. daughter.
edward morgan age 20. b. pentre,flintshire. occ. ---- clerk. son.
john ingram age 52. b. lepton,staffs. occ. gas fitter. lodger.
john hollingsworth age 32. b. oldham,lancs. occ. gas meter fitter. lodger.
david penn age 30. b. birmingham,warwickshire. occ. gas fitter. lodger.
living at 37 mount street,wrexham.












Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: wozzle on Friday 07 September 07 07:55 BST (UK)
1871 RG10/3843/16/26.
william morgan age 22. b. wrexham. occ. plumber. head.
christina morgan age 25. b. holt,denbighshire.wife.
william.v.morgan age 1. b. liverpool,lancs. son.
sarah.a.morgan age 2mnths. b. liverpool,lancs. daughter.
living at (looks like)lissant street,west derby,liverpool,lancs.
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: wozzle on Friday 07 September 07 08:09 BST (UK)
this could be him in 1891 RG12/2996/76/13.
william morgan age 43. b. kings mills,denbighshire. occ. plumber. head.(widowed)
anthony morgan age 16. b. liverpool,lancs. occ. carter. son.
christiana morgan age 15. b. liverpool,lancs. daughter.
george.e.morgan age 14. b. liverpool,lancs. occ. errand boy porter. son.
eliza.l.morgan age 11. b. liverpool,lancs. daughter.
margaret.m.morgan age 9. b. wrexham,denbighshire. daughter.
sidney.p.morgan age 4. b. liverpool,lancs. son.
living at 66,lightwood street,west derby,liverpool,lancs.
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: wozzle on Friday 07 September 07 08:16 BST (UK)
probable death of christina morgan
name. christina morgan.
y.o.r. 1888
qtr. oct/nov/dec.
dist. west derby.
county. lancashire.
vol. 8b.
page. 386.
est. birth year. 1846.
age at death. 42.
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: SiobhanAE on Friday 07 September 07 11:16 BST (UK)
thank you all sooo much for your hard work on this for me.My mum is made up ! she doesn't feel too much like an orphan any more
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: henley on Thursday 21 July 11 16:56 BST (UK)
To SiobhanAE

Re Morgan family Wrexham in your Forum 2005,  I am a direct descendant of this family line.   Would you contact me please
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: wilcoxon on Friday 22 July 11 08:06 BST (UK)
If you look at the profile , you can see she has not been online since 2007,   she may have changed her email in that time, but you may be lucky if she has not.
Name:  SiobhanAE
Date Registered:  Saturday 25 June 05 18:33 BST (UK) 
Last Online:  Monday 10 December 07 06:03 GMT (UK) 
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: henley on Friday 22 July 11 17:37 BST (UK)
Thank you Wilcoxon, yes it looks like I missed the boat on this one.      During 2005-07 I was abroad and not on the web.     It is a pity  I missed the forum as William Morgan Senior was my great great grandfather.     May be I will be lucky, fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: wilcoxon on Wednesday 27 July 11 10:50 BST (UK)
William Morgan b 1849 Wrexham / Kings Mills, Abenbury is on a couple of trees on Genes Reunited.
Heath, and Graham are the tree owners. Of course these may be you  :)
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: henley on Thursday 28 July 11 10:28 BST (UK)
 Hi Wilcoxon.....................Thanks for drawing my attention to the two Family Trees, Graham and Heath, it looks promising, they may even know who SiobhanAE is.    I have sent both a message.

Cheers, Henley
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: Ruby1945 on Friday 21 October 11 20:43 BST (UK)
Hi Wilcoxon.....................Thanks for drawing my attention to the two Family Trees, Graham and Heath, it looks promising, they may even know who SiobhanAE is.    I have sent both a message.

Cheers, Henley

Hello Henley,
I saw your message of 28 July 2011, I too am a direct descendent of William Morgan senior.   Please contact me.
Regards, Ruby1945
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: henley on Sunday 23 October 11 17:01 BST (UK)


HELLO RUBY1945

GREAT TO FINALLY GET A REPLY.   MY GT.GT. GRANDFATHER WAS WILLIAM MORGAN 1817-1886 WHO MARRIED MARGARET MORRIS.    THEIR SON THOMAS MOVED TO MANCHESTER TO WORK ON THE MANCHESTER GUARDIAN, HE WAS MY PATERNAL GT.GRANDFATHER.

ANOTHER SON, WILLIAM, I BELIEVE BECAME A PLUMBER IN WREXHAM ETC.    IF YOU ARE DESCENDED FROM EITHER LINE WE WILL BE RELATED, WOULD YOU PLEASE CLARIFY.

I HAVE CONSIDERABLE INFORMATION ON THE MORGAN FAMILY BUT STILL NEED TO LEARN MORE.
LET ME HEAR FROM YOU PLEASE.

HENLEY
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: Ruby1945 on Sunday 23 October 11 18:18 BST (UK)


HELLO RUBY1945

GREAT TO FINALLY GET A REPLY.   MY GT.GT. GRANDFATHER WAS WILLIAM MORGAN 1817-1886 WHO MARRIED MARGARET MORRIS.    THEIR SON THOMAS MOVED TO MANCHESTER TO WORK ON THE MANCHESTER GUARDIAN, HE WAS MY PATERNAL GT.GRANDFATHER.

ANOTHER SON, WILLIAM, I BELIEVE BECAME A PLUMBER IN WREXHAM ETC.    IF YOU ARE DESCENDED FROM EITHER LINE WE WILL BE RELATED, WOULD YOU PLEASE CLARIFY.

I HAVE CONSIDERABLE INFORMATION ON THE MORGAN FAMILY BUT STILL NEED TO LEARN MORE.
LET ME HEAR FROM YOU PLEASE.

HENLEY
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: Ruby1945 on Sunday 23 October 11 18:34 BST (UK)


HELLO RUBY1945

GREAT TO FINALLY GET A REPLY.   MY GT.GT. GRANDFATHER WAS WILLIAM MORGAN 1817-1886 WHO MARRIED MARGARET MORRIS.    THEIR SON THOMAS MOVED TO MANCHESTER TO WORK ON THE MANCHESTER GUARDIAN, HE WAS MY PATERNAL GT.GRANDFATHER.

ANOTHER SON, WILLIAM, I BELIEVE BECAME A PLUMBER IN WREXHAM ETC.    IF YOU ARE DESCENDED FROM EITHER LINE WE WILL BE RELATED, WOULD YOU PLEASE CLARIFY.

I HAVE CONSIDERABLE INFORMATION ON THE MORGAN FAMILY BUT STILL NEED TO LEARN MORE.
LET ME HEAR FROM YOU PLEASE.

HENLEY
     

Hello Henley,

Thanks for your reply, yes we will be related, I have been trying to find the Manchester family.  My great grandfather was William the plumber he became a water  inspector in Liverpool.    Look forward to hearing from you again,
Ruby1945


















Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: henley on Monday 24 October 11 11:31 BST (UK)
Hello again Ruby1945

Before I joined Roots there were requests, in 2007, regarding the Morgan family in Wrexham.    The person making the requests was 'SiobhanAE'  was she any relation of yours?.    I have been unable to make contact with her, I was probably too late.

Is it possible to compare our collective family information? (if your are interested!).   Without me putting my e-mail address on line into the public domain how do we make contact outside the Roots forum?

Cheers Henley

Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: Ruby1945 on Monday 24 October 11 12:05 BST (UK)
Hello again Ruby1945

Before I joined Roots there were requests, in 2007, regarding the Morgan family in Wrexham.    The person making the requests was 'SiobhanAE'  was she any relation of yours?.    I have been unable to make contact with her, I was probably too late.

Is it possible to compare our collective family information? (if your are interested!).   Without me putting my e-mail address on line into the public domain how do we make contact outside the Roots forum?

Cheers Henley





Hello Henley,

I would be very happy to share information with you but do not know how to make contact without putting e-mail on line.   I joined this a few weeks ago and have only just worked out how to post these replies.  I read your post and tried to work out how to contact you.   Siobhan is the cousin I did not know about, her mum is my father's half sister.   I have not been able to contact either of them for weeks now, I wanted to tell Siobhan so she could reply.      She also posted on Curious Fox, they have a system where they pass on messages, and I don't think she is on Ancestry.  Please let me know if you find out , I don't want to lose touch with you.

Best wishes

Ruby1945

Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: henley on Monday 24 October 11 21:22 BST (UK)
Hello again Ruby1945

Before I joined Roots there were requests, in 2007, regarding the Morgan family in Wrexham.    The person making the requests was 'SiobhanAE'  was she any relation of yours?.    I have been unable to make contact with her, I was probably too late.

Is it possible to compare our collective family information? (if your are interested!).   Without me putting my e-mail address on line into the public domain how do we make contact outside the Roots forum?

Cheers Henley


Title: exchange of e mail addresses/privacy
Post by: henley on Monday 24 October 11 21:29 BST (UK)
 ???


Help please!

Does anybody know how I can exchange e- mail addresses with new 'family' contact without divulging it on this forum to all and sundry.    We do not know each others address.


Henley
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: wozzle on Wednesday 26 October 11 18:29 BST (UK)
the answer would be to send a p.m.
just click on the persons username in this case ruby1945
a new page will come up
at the bottom of that page it will say "send this person a personal message
just click on that and away you go
mick
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: henley on Wednesday 26 October 11 20:07 BST (UK)

Hi Wozzle

Have done that now with success, Ruby has replied on PM.     Good job you guys keep an eye on us
dumbkopfs.    Thank a million.

Henley
Title: Re: Morgan Family
Post by: ronbird on Saturday 29 November 14 15:38 GMT (UK)
Siobhan,
Noticed that some time ago you were looking for information regarding James Bird. You may see from my surname I too am a Bird.
James, married to Rosina, is my great grandfather. As far as I know he had three two siblings, William Bird and Lucy Bird.
James and Rosina had two children, James Thomas Bird and Charles Henry Bird(Ramsgate). Charles Henry was a part time musician, and married Marjorie Turner in Ramsgate. They had two children, Keith and Neil.
Keith was a full time musician and married a dancer. They had two children, one is me, the other Charles Henry Bird. I have two children Bretton and Eleanor, Eleanor is married to Latif LaChab and has a daughter Amal. Bretton is still at home, just.
James Thomas Bird, aka Bretton Byrd, was also a musician(see wikipedia) married first Iris and had a daughter Joyce and second marriage Joan. I never knew his first wife, nor that he had a child until very recently, Neil told me.
Neil married Ruby and they had no children. Lucy married Fred Challis and I think had three children. The two I know of were Ethel and Fred. Ethel I believe has two children Doug and Harry. That is all I know about my family.
So, how are we related?
Best Ron