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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Gloucestershire => England => Gloucestershire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: thewholeworld on Sunday 16 September 07 22:47 BST (UK)
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I am looking for information on the child of harriet Tarver b1815 and married to Thomas whom she murdered.
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Ann Tarver - Baptised 21st September 1834 at Chipping Campden St James
Parents - Thomas & Harriett
Father`s Occupation - Currier
Sue
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Thank you so much that was quick. ;D
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You`re welcome ;D Haven`t located her in 1841 yet and can`t find a death ??? I found her parents marriage though:-
Thomas Tarver & Harriett Tracey - 29th January 1834 at Chipping Campden - By Banns
Sue
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Yes - I couldn t find her either, I am interested to know what become of her.
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I tried looking under her mother`s maiden name but no luck there either ??? Oh I think I have her.....................
William Tracey, 61, Ag Lab, Y
Sarah Tracey, 60, Y
Ann Tarver, 6, Y
Can`t read address - Chipping Campden
HO107/360 Folio:37 Page 30
Looks like Tarver but transcribed Turner
Sue
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Sue ... you're too quick for me !! ;D ;D ;D I had just found it to add to the bottom of this !! ::) ::)
Everybody made fun when I posted this site .... but I found Harriet there ... not very much I'm afraid !!
http://weldgen.tripod.com/crime-and-punishment/id19.html
And also this !... I wonder if the child was put into an orphanage or even changed her name ??
21 year old Harriet Tarver of Chipping Campden was hanged on the 9th of April 1836 for the murder of her husband, Thomas, by poison. She was the youngest woman to be executed at Gloucester in the 19th century. It was claimed in a broadside, sold at her execution, that she was repentant and hoped that her “orphan child would take warning and shun vice and bad company”. These claims of repentance were very popular in broadsides and may well have been pure invention.
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Sorry Annie ;D I just had a feeling she would be with her mother`s family but wondered if she`d been given the surname Tracey. I still haven`t found her in 1851 though so please feel free ;D ;D ;D
Sue
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I found a Rosanna ?? ............... what do you think ??
1851
168 Elm Street
Rosanna Tarver 19 Lodger Chipping Campden Gloucestershire silk winder
Emma Beckel 24
Mary Beckel 1
Charles Merriman 35
Maria Merriman 28
George Merriman 7
Elizabeth Merriman 1
HO107; Piece: 2076; Folio: 159; Page: 42
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I`m inclined to agree with you Annie, I spotted her and couldn`t find a better match anywhere ;D
Sue
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I have seen the Rosanna, and i thought it may have been her also.
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I was just thinking ... how awful it must have been for her .... :-\
looks like she wasn't able to move away ...... probably no money and probably by 1851 the grandparents were gone ! ........ imagine the "stigma" she had to bear !!
My heart goes out to her !! :-\
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I think it is all a horrible sad case, she poisioned her husband, he worked in a pub so i assume he was a drunken bully, thats why she murdered him. and the poor daughter losing both parents.
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I was thinking the same Annie, she was just a baby and it seems so unfair :'(
Sue
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There is a marriage in September 1881 for a Rosanna Tarver & John Henry Long, registered in Shipston on Stour which covered Chipping Campden then..........a possibility I suppose ???
Sue
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Well now we've all flooded our keyboards :'( :'( :'( .... where do we go from here ?
I was looking to see if there was a Chipping Campden girl in 1861 - either Ann Anna or Rosanna but nothing came up !! .... I imagine she either got married - so is under another name - or she's emigrated somewhere !
Is she a relation of yours tww ? do you know anything else about her family ?
Annie :)
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Thats interesting, it would be nice if she had a happy life. I will have a look at that now thank you.
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Yes she is a distant rellie of mine.
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You did not say if you were interested in Ann's parentage, however, if you go to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountryEngland.htm#PageTitle and search Chip' Camp' for Tarver in C and M batches, you will find details which were extracted from church records by the LDS.
Sue,
If you should happen to read this, any data given without giving its actual source will be no use in a few years time if somebody queries it and wishes to verify it. They would have to start the search all over again.
Regards
Chas
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Is it not a quantum leap to ASSUME that because she poisoned her husband, that he was a drunken bully, what evidence is there for this or is it just female assumption? She could have been an evil thinking woman. She was lucky to have been hung, killing of a husband was high treason and the usual punishment was to be burned at the stake just a few years before! She was hung at Gloucester on 09/04/1836 but she was certainly not the youngest woman to be hung, on 22/03/1819 Hannah Bocking was hung at Derby at the age of 16
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I would like to confirm she was definatly the youngest woman in Gloucestershire to be hanged. As for the drunken bully part, I am free to assume.
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Satisfying to see the correct word, "hanged" for I do not suppose anybody has a picture of her so that it could be hung.
Chas
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Chas
I am really offended by your sarcastic comment.
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Sorry if I offended. Sarcasm was not intended, it's just that it is satisfying to come across somebody who usus the correct words of the English language unlike so many others.
Regards
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I found a Rosanna ?? ............... what do you think ??
1851
168 Elm Street
Rosanna Tarver 19 Lodger Chipping Campden Gloucestershire silk winder
Emma Beckel 24
Mary Beckel 1
Charles Merriman 35
Maria Merriman 28
George Merriman 7
Elizabeth Merriman 1
HO107; Piece: 2076; Folio: 159; Page: 42
I know I'm writing here a long time after these posts, but I wanted to verify that it is extremely likely that Rosanne Tarver here, was indeed Anne Tarver. Charles and Maria Merriman (Becket) had a child, George, who we can see above, in 1851 was only 7. However, he went on to marry Harriet Tarvers niece, Elizabeth Tracey (daughter of George Tracey, brother to Harriet Tarver (Tracey). This is rather convoluted, but the families were obviously close. Elizabeth Tracey is my great, great grandmother, making Harriet Tarver my great, great, great grand aunt.
I've had a look around, and there don't seem to be any other Tarvers that could be Rosanne, or the parents of her. Thomas had one sister, Mary, born in 1812.
Fascinating story.
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Hi Simeon54,
Welcome to RootsChat :)
There is a little bit of information from Gloucester Gaol Harriet's story
http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/gloucester.html
Regards
Sarah :)
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Hi,
Source: Hanged at Gloucester by Jill Evans, p.p. 109-111
Poison in the Rice Pudding
Harriet Tracey married Thomas Tarver at Chipping Camden parish church on 29 January 1834. Less than two years later, Thomas Tarver was buried in the graveyard of the same church, and his widow was in Gloucester Goal, charged with his murder.
On 11 December 1853, Thomas Tarver, who was twenty-four, died after a sudden and short illness. He had gone to work in the morning feeling perfectly well, but during the course of the morning he started to complain of an acute pain in his stomach, excessive thirst, and cold sweats. He returned home and died at two o'clock in the afternoon.
Please see my pm for the rest of the article.
Victor
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Hi,
Thomas TARVER was buried at St James, Chipping Camden, 16th December 1835, aged 24.
Victor
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Hi,
Ann TARVER, daughter of Thomas & Harriett, a Currier of Campden, baptised at St James, Chipping Campden, 21st September 1834.
Couldn't find the marriage of Thomas & Harriett though.
Victor
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Hello all, I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to add my latest findings. I tracked down her confession, as printed in the Gloucestershire Chronicle on Apr 16th 1836. Here is an exert, if you want the whole transcript, please ask.
EXECUTION OF HARRIET TARVER.
In nearly the whole of our last impression we inserted a notice of the execution of Harriet Tarver, convicted at our late assizes of the crime of poisoning her husband, which look place in front of the county gaol, about 12 o’clock on Saturday. Owing to the unfortunate woman turning her head after the executioner had placed her on the drop, the knot went rather out of place, in consequence of which she died hard. After hanging the usual time, she was cut down and buried within the precincts of the prison.
We are now enabled to lay before our readers a few additional particulars respecting her. We are informed that for some time preparatory to her trial she paid considerable attention to earnest instructions given her for her spiritual benefit. Immediately subsequent that event on her return to the prison, she expressed a desire for her dissolution, stating that she should prefer death than life, since she felt convinced that if she lived she should never be in a better state of preparation. Since her conviction, she applied herself with great assiduity to those solemn duties, which the awful certainty of her immediate doom so imperatively imposed upon her. On being questioned as to the motive for the committal of such an atrocious crime, she at first alleged, that she had long cherished a vindictive feeling towards her husband, in consequence of his supposed severity; but being pressed much further on that point, she at length confessed that she had an attachment to another person which had at first alienated her affection from her husband. This influenced her conduct towards him, and finally urged her on to that malignant feeling which terminated in a desire for his death. Having thus unburdened her conscience of the crime and its motives, and having long evinced active symptoms of compunction, she was admitted to the Holy Sacrament.
It would appear then, that her husband was indeed abusive. I wonder though, about this lover urging her on. I wonder if the paper didn't move the focus on to her being an adulteress rather than a victim, as it makes for a more morally palatable resolution.