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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ross & Cromarty => Topic started by: kathyc on Wednesday 19 September 07 22:05 BST (UK)
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Are any of you familiar with the Annat burial ground in Annat (near Torridon and Shieldaig)? I'm wondering whether it's still there, open to visitors, etc. Also, do you know whether an index of the, er, residents exists anywhere?
Thanks!
Kathy
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Hi Kathy
The pre-1855 gravestones for Annat are listed in the booklet "Pre-1855 gravestone inscriptions in Wester Ross" edited by Alastair G Beattie and Margaret H Beattie. I've got a version published by the Scottish Genealogy Society in 1987.
There are 11 gravestones listed and the Ordnance Survey grid reference number for the location of the burial ground is NG 898547.
If it's a pre-1855 inscription that you're looking for, just let me know and I can check if it's in this book for you.
Hope this helps!
Lynn
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Hi Lynn,
Thanks so much for the offer! I believe most of the people I know for sure were buried there were after 1855, though it's entirely possible some of the earlier ones were my in my family too, though I don't know that they'd have been able to afford headstones. Would you mind checking if McLeans are among those listed? Specifically John and his wife Catherine MS Fraser and Roderick and his wife Ann MS McLennan? Also John Macrae and Christopher McLennan? I appreciate it.
Does that booklet also include Lochcarron Cemetery?
I noticed in your signature that your families include MacKenzies of Gairloch. Mine do as well. Forgive me for not remembering if we've ever checked for a connection. My earliest known connections in the area are Donald Mackenzie of Poolewe and his wife Annabella Macgregor, both born around 1810 or so.
Thanks again!
Kathy
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Hi Kathy
I've checked the Annat entries for you - there are four stones that mention MacLeans, but not a John MacLean and Catherine Fraser.
The stones are as follows:
"Roderick McBeath died Fassag 1842 aged 47, wife Ann McLean died 1877 aged 84, daughter Ann died Feb 1914 aged 80 years
Flora Macdonald, husband Donald Maclean, died Callakille 12 June 1890 aged 84 years, daughter Annabella died Shieldaig 1852 aged 14 years, Norman Macdonald, merchant, died Ardmore 2 May 1878 aged 72 years.
Erected by Roderick and Grace Maclean, father Kenneth Maclean, innkeeper died April 1845 aged 56 years.
John Murdoch, born New Cumnock 1774, tenant Corry, Torridon for 13 years, died 1845, wife Barbara Mitchell born 1778 died 1852, son William born 1815 died 1896 (wife Mary Maclean born 1824, died 1874)."
The book does also have Kishorn, Lochcarron, Locharron Old and Applecross (as well as quite a few other burial grounds, but these are a bit further away from Annat). Just let me know if there are any others you would like me to look up for you.
By the way, my Gairloch MacKenzies are from the Aultbea/Laide/Mellon Udrigle area of the parish, just about 5 miles north of Poolewe - any connection do you think?
Look forward to hearing from you
Lynn
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Lynn,
Thanks for those. I don't have any of them as relatives now, but who knows as the search goes on! :)
For Lochcarron, would you mind checking for Donald MacKenzie, died 1853, husband of Janet? Thanks!
As for the Poolewe bunch, it's entirely possible there's a connection with that short distance, though there sure seem to be a LOT of MacKenzies in the area. I don't have any yet who've shown up with Aultbea/Laide/Mellon Udrigle addresses, but I haven't worked too far back in that line yet either. Does my Donald sound at all familiar to you? The only child of his that I'm aware of so far is my gg grandfather Kenneth MacKenzie, born 1831.
All the best,
Kathy
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Hi Kathy
Just started looking through Lochcarron and I think I've found him!
"Erected by MacKenzie brothers, father Donald MacKenzie, tenant Slumbay, died 24 June 1853 aged 62 years, mother Janet Mackenzie died 17 August 1869 aged 70 years, Jessie MacKenzie (widow of Murdo Macrae, late of Shieldaig) died 21 April 1907".
I've checked my tree and although I've got Donald Mackenzies, Kenneth MacKenzies and various McGregors from the Gairloch area in my tree, I don't have the people you mention - as you say, there are a lot of MacKenzies in the parish of Gairloch! However, I dare say that we're connected somewhere along the line.
Best wishes
Lynn
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That's them, all right! Thank you! Jessie and Murdo were my ggg grandparents, Donald and Janet my 4x great grandparents. How wonderful to have that information!
I'll bet we must be connected somewhere. I'll keep the addresses in mind and pop you a message if I find any that might connect to you as I go along.
Thanks again so much for checking the MI book!
Kathy
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Lynn, I'm looking up my Macgregor ancestors from Gairloch. You mentioned you had this surname in your tree? Do you have a Roderick or Rory Macgregor who had a son William, born in Gairloch? Roderick or Rory married a Mackenzie (believed to be the widow of a Mackenzie). Roderick may have died in the area of Mellon Udrigle. Thanks.
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Hi,
I have a Roderick MacGregor that married an Isabella MacKenzie in the 1700's. Is possibly from the Lecky-Kinlochewe area in Gairloch. The one daughter I have is Isabella MacGregor (born abt 1760). If that fits in with what you are searching, I have plenty of info on the descendants of Isabella, who married a MacLennan from Kinlochewe.
Francisco
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Thanks, Francisco. Timelines seem to match, but the Roderick or Rory Macgregor I'm looking for had a son named William. Any chance Isabella had a brother?
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I don't know. I arrived to Isabella MacGregor working backwards on the Maclennan line. Her death states parents as Roderick MacGregor and Isabella MacKenzie, and her birth according to censuses was Gairloch. What other information do you have about William (approximate birth year, death year) to see if I can find him somewhere.
Francisco
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May I add my tuppence worth to this?..regarding Macgregor/Morrison & Macgregor/Mackenzie and Macgregor/Macdonald marriages:
Alexander Macgregor (shepherd and cattle herder according to his 2 son's death certs - seemingly in Achtercairn/Strath according to his widow's residence in 1841/51) married Christian (with lots of variants) Morrison born c1784...4 known children:
Child 1: Roderick born c1806 married Mary Mackenzie and had children John, Mary, Catherine, Ann, Robert, Alexander, Catherine, Margaret, Isabella, Duncan between 1838 & 1862. Roderick was a hill drainer and lived in Kinlochewe (1851, 61, 71) before dying of insanity in 1876.
Child 2: Barbara [/i]born c1811. Only found on 1851 census.
Child 3: Murdoch [/i](also Murdo) born c1812 married Isabella Macdonald of Petty near Inverness in Dec 1830. All their children were born over in the east and Murdoch & Isabella both died in Nairn in 1872 & 1887 respectively. I am descended from this line.
Child 4: Annabella born c1813. Only found on 1841 census...and presumed to be a daughter. May be wrong.
Might there be a connection that someone is aware of?
Thanks for reading!
William
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Hi William,
You're a McGregor descendant? My main line of research are the Maclennans. Every single time they marry into a McGregor I hit a brick wall! The amount of credits I spend in Scotlands People trying to figure out from where they came or where they went is amazing. But probably due to all this effort I've come to appreciate McGregors and I have the best feelings toward each new McGregor that appears in my tree.
All the names and surnames you mention are familiar to me but not in those combinations. But while we don't have a match right now, the fact that your Roderick lived for so long in Kinlochewe and had so many children makes it highly probable that I will find a link sometime. So I better be prepared to buy lots of more credits in SP.
Best luck,
Francisco
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This question is for Chortlegirl - my first post as I am a Newbie! In your book of gravesites/headstones, do you show any entry in Applecross for John McRae and his wife, Keat McGullin? They lived in Cuaig in 1804 when their son, Norman, was born, but I have no idea of their ages.
Thanks so much!
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Hello,
Thought I'd post a message too as I have read this thread with interest. I am (also!) descended from the murdoch macgregor / isabella macdonald line. My line moved across to nairn from gairloch and stayed there abouts untill WW2, though I don't know why they moved there from gairloch.
(work opportunity i suppose - but then how would they have heard about it - it's a long walk to Nairn!?!) Fun to speculate.
Following a visit to girloch it is apparent that the macgregors aren't a common name around those parts these days, and I've always wondered how they came to be all the way up there. I haven't been able trace further back than alexander macgregor / christian morrison - if anybody has any info further back, please get in touch.
Kind regards to all,
Stuart
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Hello,
Thought I'd post a message too as I have read this thread with interest. I am (also!) descended from the murdoch macgregor / isabella macdonald line. My line moved across to nairn from gairloch and stayed there abouts untill WW2, though I don't know why they moved there from gairloch.
(work opportunity i suppose - but then how would they have heard about it - it's a long walk to Nairn!?!) Fun to speculate.
Following a visit to girloch it is apparent that the macgregors aren't a common name around those parts these days, and I've always wondered how they came to be all the way up there. I haven't been able trace further back than alexander macgregor / christian morrison - if anybody has any info further back, please get in touch.
Kind regards to all,
Stuart
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Hello, my name is James Beaton McKenzie.
I have a fascination with a memorial that is in the Annat Old cemetery
that was erected by one John Beaton McKenzie (the name of both my father and my grandfather). Photo attached.
I would like to know where I can turn to find anything about the person
who erected the memorial (parish offices, etc). It may have been my grandfather before he emigrated to Canada in 1906.
I know nothing about him prior to 1906, so family ties are not known (yet).
If anyone can point me in the right direction I will be very grateful.
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Hello all
Thought I would also post a message here as I am another one descended from the Murdoch Macgregor/Isabella Macdonald line. My great great grandmother is Christina Macgregor, Murdoch and Isabella's daughter. I found this thread when googling for any info on Alexander Macgregor/Christian Morrison but haven't had much luck - apart from here, obviously!
I've often wondered too how Murdoch came to be in the Nairn area - he got married in Petty in 1830, according to the IGI, so he wasn't very old when he made the journey.
Any more info on further back in the Macgregor line would be very interesting if anyone has managed to find any!
Best wishes
Tessa
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Hi,
Picking up on Dodomac's enquiry, I believe that he may be referring to James( Roderick/Rory/ Budg/ Yellow haired) MacGregor, who was Rob Roy’s eldest son. I have a copy of a letter from his grand-daughter saying that he escaped to Gairloch after the battle of Culloden.
He apparently married a MacKenzie widow, who I now believe was Joan Campbell (daughter of John Campbell of Wellwood, Ayrshire). She was previously married to George MacKenzie of Scatwell. See: http://www.fullbooks.com/History-Of-The-Mackenzies11.html
They had a son, William MacGregor (ca 1735-1788) who married Helen Gillanders (b 1801 d 23/11/1864) on 18/2/1820, Stornoway, Isle of Lewis.
William was my great x 3 grandfather.
I should be very interested to hear if anyone has proof of James and Joan’s marriage or knows where they are buried.
Regards
Mike
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Hi,
As an update to my last post, I now believe that James MacGregor's wife was Anne MacKenzie, the widow of Alexander MacKenzie II of Lochend.
See: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=AHN&db=:2608138&id=I532434707
She reputedly had a house in Gairloch.
Any evidence of this marriage or further information on the MacKenzies of Lochend would be appreciated.
Regards
Mike
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hi iv done a family tree of the mackenzies my 4th gr grandad was also murdo mackenzie born 1781.id also be interested in the book.
thanks kevin
I'll bet we must be connected somewhere. I'll keep the addresses in mind and pop you a message if I find any that might connect to you as I go along.
Thanks again so much for checking the MI book!
Kathy
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Hi everyone , been chasing up my family history and I too am a descendent of Murdo MacGregor . His son murdo moved to Nairn (I believe as part of the highland railway ) I have read records where he became a station master his son William born in Croy then moved to Blair Atholl (moulinairn) and was a steam train driver . He married Jessie Stewart . I have a bunch of middle
Names that I have been told I got from women marrying into the family . By checking the records it becomes very apparent.
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Hi everyone , been chasing up my family history and I too am a descendent of Murdo MacGregor . His son murdo moved to Nairn (I believe as part of the highland railway ) I have read records where he became a station master his son William born in Croy then moved to Blair Atholl (moulinairn) and was a steam train driver . He married Jessie Stewart . I have a bunch of middle
Names that I have been told I got from women marrying into the family . By checking the records it becomes very apparent.
After checking on most of this information and getting better at researching I can now say most of this is wrong 😀 Murdoch moved from gairloch to work as a farm labourer where he met his wife /or could of moved there to marry her as she was born in Inverness . Per the census at the time he was also a fisherman going back to work in gairloch (probably kelping) also shows that he was a carpenter so I presume he was a bit of a jack of all trades . His father Alexander was offered the mill in strath but never took up the offer . His mother Christian was shown to be a squatter in a later census (guess she didn’t like paying rent😂) my ggrandfather William was born in petty/ croy and ended up becoming a engine driver/fireman and lived in shore rd Inverness until his death . The strange part was he was actually buried in Blair athol (which made me believe he died there) but it turns out this was his wife’s hometown and she moved back there right after his death . I also got some great information from gairlochs museum if any of you descendants would like to see it ? As someone said above MacGregors are not very common in that part of Scotland - I think with a strong suspicion/the museum also mentioned this that they ended up there as refugees right after the Jacobite rebellion . The MacKenzies who owned the land refused to throw crofters off their land and also welcomed in people from other areas . At one point there was a big settlement in the area of MacGregors but in later censuses they all but disappeared due to migration to the new colonies or like my line to other parts of Scotland as subsistence living was very tough . Hope this helps anyone that’s out there trying to piece the puzzle together 😀
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Hello I’m new here so not sure how this all works but I’m interested in this particular post that Jim704 posted awhile back…I can’t see any replies to his post or am I looking at it wrong?
Appreciate any assistance
Thank you :)
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Hello, my name is James Beaton McKenzie.
I have a fascination with a memorial that is in the Annat Old cemetery
that was erected by one John Beaton McKenzie (the name of both my father and my grandfather). Photo attached.
I would like to know where I can turn to find anything about the person
who erected the memorial (parish offices, etc). It may have been my grandfather before he emigrated to Canada in 1906.
I know nothing about him prior to 1906, so family ties are not known (yet).
If anyone can point me in the right direction I will be very grateful.
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Hello Torigj, Welcome to RootsChat :)
On most topics on RootsChat it is normally one enquiry and then the replies, but in this case there have been multiple requests by folk. I can not see a reply to Jim's post.
Regards
Sarah
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Thanks Sarah for your reply, is the Jim704 still active?
Does anyone know where I might find more information on the memorial? When it was done and any info on the persons mention on it?
Thanks
Tori
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Hi Tori,
The note under Jim's profile shows that sadly we have lost contact with him.
Regards
Sarah