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Title: Broe/Brough of Rathfarnham Dublin
Post by: Annie46 on Saturday 22 September 07 08:10 BST (UK)
Does anyone have any information on this family. Thomas Broe was born around Dec 1824
 in Roundtown, Rathfarnham. There are records I have seen for the 1850s and later for this parish where instances of this surname occur but I have yet to find anything for the 1820s and 30s. Can anyone please help

Anne ??? ???
Title: Re: Broe/Brough of Rathfarnham Dublin
Post by: Christopher on Wednesday 13 February 08 12:27 GMT (UK)
Hello Anne,


What denomination was Thomas Broe (Brough)? Was he a member of the Catholic faith, the Established Church (Anglicans or Church of Ireland) or a Presbyterian?

You'll have to rely on Church records as civil registration in Ireland was not introduced until 1864. Non Catholic marriages were registered from 1845 onwards. When registration for BDMS started in 1864 some people didn't bother with the registration for a few years after that date. Keep your fingers crossed that church records still exist. 

Christopher
Title: Re: Broe/Brough of Rathfarnham Dublin
Post by: bclc71 on Saturday 07 January 12 00:35 GMT (UK)
I have just discovered a Broe connection in Dublin in my line.

Amelia Broe married JOhn Laphen on 10 October 1836 at St Mary's Procathedral.
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/217a090048753

unfortunately no details of where Amelia came from or of her parents.

If we do find a connection I have heaps of information of their children etc.

Establishing that connection is the challenge!! ???

Barbara
Title: Re: Broe/Brough of Rathfarnham Dublin
Post by: bclc71 on Saturday 07 January 12 00:40 GMT (UK)
these are the records relating to Thomas Broe from Irishgeneology - not sure if you have seen these. Not such from early 1800's.

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Title: Re: Broe/Brough of Rathfarnham Dublin
Post by: johnjensen on Saturday 07 January 12 13:58 GMT (UK)
Have you already seen the site which includes this page? The Anne contributor mentioned could be the person who started this thread. Lots of info on Thomas's siblings and parents John Broe and Elizabeth Brown.

http://www.broughfamily.org/families/broughs_new_zealand/pafg20.htm#344
Title: Re: Broe/Brough of Rathfarnham Dublin
Post by: bclc71 on Saturday 07 January 12 21:12 GMT (UK)
Thanks John, No direct link evident from that info.

I grew up in Dublin and never heard the name Broe before ( and my parents too having grown up in Dublin are also unfamiliar with the name) so there cant be that many Broes??!!

Will keen looking

kind regards

Barbara



Title: Re: Broe/Brough of Rathfarnham Dublin
Post by: eadaoin on Sunday 08 January 12 18:35 GMT (UK)
from the census returns, it looks as if they're mostly in Dublin, Kildare and Wicklow, and Cork too.

I've some in my tree, distant 3rd/4th cousins - no ancestors.

eadaoin
Title: Re: Broe/Brough of Rathfarnham Dublin
Post by: noelwcamogie on Monday 09 January 12 14:47 GMT (UK)
Hi folks - dont know if this might be of any help - but re the Broe name in Dublin. I myself am tracing a branch of my dad's mother's tree and the name broe is there. There was an ellen whitty(wexford/kilkenny co. border) who married a james broe from Rathmines / Ranelagh in Dublin.  That family canbe seen online inthe irish census records. My dad recalls him visiting later descendants of the family in dublin and vice vesa. There are still broe family in south dublin - but I've not yet managed to contact them. They were in an online forum in dublin recntly- but by the time I found it registration was closed due to some misconduct Ithink - which is a pity.
Rathmines,Ranelagh & Rathfarnham are all pretty much next to each other.

regards
Title: Re: Broe/Brough of Rathfarnham Dublin
Post by: dromiskin on Saturday 12 January 13 16:01 GMT (UK)
John Laphen and Amelia Broe were my gggrandparents on my
mother's side. I have some information on the Laphens but
very little on The Broes.

Hopefully we can share some info?  :)


Carol
Title: Re: Broe/Brough of Rathfarnham Dublin
Post by: Annie46 on Wednesday 31 January 18 06:54 GMT (UK)
Hi All
After some years I still haven't found the baptism of Thomas Broe 1823/4 but can clear up the misunderstanding on his death certificate because I found the marriage of John Broe and his wife Elizabeth Keogh in Rathfarnham. The name is mis-transcribed. The surname Brown is from Elizabeth Keogh's mother whose surname was Brown. I expect that the person who gave the information on the death certificate was mistaken. On Thomas' brother Patrick's death certificate the surname is correct but the Christian name is wrong which led some people to assume that they were half-brothers. His baptism is also in the Rathfarnham PR in 1825 and he was not a twin to Thomas. In all there were several other children for this children in the PRs.
Anne
Title: Re: Broe/Brough of Rathfarnham Dublin
Post by: Broek on Thursday 18 June 20 18:26 BST (UK)
I have visited Thomas’s grave in Whanganui New Zealand. He was married to Sarah Carroll and later Theresa Clune. Thomas was in the 65th regiment and fought in the Taranaki wars, he died in 1876.
Sarah is buried at Akaroa where they arrived on the ship Maitland.
Thomas and Sarah were my 3x great grandparents and I understand they were from County Kildare in Dublin. I have got as far back as Petris Broe but no further than that. I understand that they were a Catholic family. There were troubles in Whanganui when Thomas’s son John Maitland married into a protestant family the Wallace’s from Antrim in northern island. Arthur Wallace and Thomas Broe were both in the 65th regiment and Thomas’s son John Maitland married Arthur Wallace’s daughter Elizabeth.
There son was Peter Brough who married Annie Ethel Hogg, their son was my grandfather Arthur Charles Brough, married Winifred Mary Munro, their son Desmond Charles Brough is my father, married Jennifer McKenzie my mother.