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Hello,
I am seeking the birth certificate for my 2nd great grandfather, James Gregory Doolittle. He was born in July of 1855 in Wicklow, Ireland. James was the son of Thomas Doolittle (Harbor Commisioner and Coal Merchant in Main, St. Wicklow) and Mary Anna Gregory. He had a brother named Thomas Arthur. Both James and Thomas were mariners and moved to Liverpool, England to work there.
James immigrated to the US in 1893, naturalized and died in Salt Lake City in 1924. I don't know if Thomas followed his brother or stayed in Liverpool.
Any information, stories, documents and/or pictures of anyone is this family or local would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you so much,
Kristin
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Kristin,
There won't be a birth cert for James because civil registration for births did not begin in Ireland until 1864. But you may find a baptism record for him if you know where he was born and his religious denomination.
Regarding his brother Thomas - I suppose you've seen his family in the England 1881 census on the LDS site? (Though not James - perhaps away at sea).
To help find out if he emigrated to the USA, you could place a census look-up request for 1891 and 1901 on the Rootschat Lancashire or Cheshire board. (He seems to have moved around according to the birthplaces of his children)
Good luck
Leofric
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Just in case you are keeping an interest in this name the Rootsweb Wicklow list we have a Doolittle researcher perhaps a browse of the archives of this list may afford you some information to this family. but it that fails contact the admin of said list
Cara
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may be of interest - the results of a search of Commercial directories for Doolittle entries in Co. Wicklow. All the results came from Wicklow Town :
Pigot's 1824
John Doolittle, Wicklow Town - Publican.
Slaters's 1846
Ths. Doolittle. earthenware dealr. Main st - Wicklow
Slater's 1870
Thomas Doolittle , Main st - Wicklow Town - Glass &. Glass Dealers
Slater's 1881
AGENTS - MISCELLANEOUS.
Arthur Doolittle (for the White Star line of steamers), Main st, Wicklow
Edward Doolittle (for Lloyd's and the Liverpool underwriter) Main St, Wicklow
Doolittle Arthur, South Quay & Main St, Wicklow - Merchant
Arthur is also listed as Ship Owner, Fire &c. Office Agents - Northern
and under 'China &. Glass Dealers' and 'Coal, Lime & Timber Merchants'
Edward Doolittle, Main st, Grocer
Edward Doolittle, Harbour Master, Main Street, Wicklow Town
Slater's 1894
Arthur Doolittle , ship owner, Main st, Wicklow
Peter Doolittle, agent for Lloyd's, The Mall, Wicklow
Shane
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Hi I share same family, im Descended from Edward Doolittle b:1812 married to Mary Ann Ryan :1820 both born in wicklow,
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Hi Rob,
Edward Doollittle, son of George Doolittle & Catherine Connor, both of Wicklow Town, was bap. in St. Patrick's R.C. Church Wicklow,30th August 1812, He married Mary Ryan 29th August 1836 also in St. Patrick's Church. Witnessed by John Rorke and Martha Murphy. They had 12 children born between 1837 - 1858: Mary, Celia, Sophie, George, Petger, Charlotte (1), Arthur, Charlotte (2), Emma, James and |John Chritopher.
If a name was important to the family the practice was sif one child who was christened that name i.e. Charlotte died, the next girl to come along was called Charlott.
George & Catherine were married in Wicklow Catholic Parish Church, 29th May 1810, witnessed by Thomas Fitzgerald and Elinn... Connor. Know of 6 children including the above Edward.
JMF
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Hi Hirstin,
Cannot find a James George, but see the following
c 1901 b2 Main St Wicklow 62/26; Shop, 7 windows in front of 1st class house; 7 rooms occupied by 8 persons. 2 out offices = 2 stores. All Roman Catholic.
1 Arthur Doolittle age 52 [b.c.1849] Coal Dealer married born Wicklow
2 Teresa wife age 42 yrs married born Wicklow [Sic]
3 Mary Ann daughter age 11; [called lolly]
4 Bridget age 10;
5 Catherine age 8;
6 Thomas age 7 yrs.
7 George Doolittle, brother, age 64 yrs single. b. Wicklow living with Arthur occupation = no calling. Remarks = Deaf & Dumb
c 1911 b3 Main St Wicklow 65/25. Private Dwelling; 7 windows in front of house 1st Class; 9 Rooms occ by 5 persons. No out offices.
1 Arthur Doolittle, head of household, age 64; Estate Agent [b.c.1847] born Co Wicklow
2 Teresa, wife age 50 yrs, married 22 yrs, 4 children born 4 alive born Co Dublin. [sic]
3 Mary, daughter, age 21 Scholar, single born Co Wicklow.
4 Bee daughter age 20, scholar, single born Co Wicklow.
5 Angela daughter age 17 scholar single born Co Wicklow
Are Angela & Catherine the same person & where was Thomas 1911
JMF
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Hi Kristan, Rob,
Edward had a Schooner called "The Monkton". He built 4 houses on common ground in Wicklow (Cissis Stringer's field) & called the road 'Monkton Row'. He gave one of them to his daughter Celia & Thomas Wall as a wedding present. They were Hughie Redmond's Grandparents, his family lived there for a short while. [Information verbal from Hughie in 1992].
Rosanna Doolittle: Born c1834. Daughter Of ? N/b
Died 13th Nov 1916 aged 82 yr. Buried Ennisboyne (3 Mile Water) Cemt. (Ref. George Wall)
Mar. 19th Oct 1860 St Patrick's Church Wicklow. Wit: John Wall & Mary Ann Goodman.
Thomas Wall: Thomas Died 19th July 1888. Buried Ennisboyne (3 Mile Water) Cemt. (Ref. George Wall, Wicklow, researching Wall of Wicklow)
1. William Wall bap 23 Oct 1862. St Patrick's Church, Wicklow
Sp. William Darragh & Eliza Neille.
2. George Wall. Bap 25th Aug 1864. St Patrick's Church, Wicklow N/b
Sp. John Wall & Ellen Doolittle.
George died at sea, 22nd Jan 1890. Aged 26 yr.
N/B Who Was? Major General Doolittle, of the American Army:
Born c 1900 in California Died c 1993 age 93 yr. (Verb James Kavanagh, Wicklow 2003)
He had 2 sons who visited Wicklow.
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Thank you for that information, i have various peices now on the Doolittle family, there is one of Edwards sons,
John Doolittle Pedigree
Male
Birth: 05 JUL 1858 Of, Wicklow, Wicklow, Ireland
Christening:
Death: Lost Among Indians Of, , , Usa
Burial:
would you happen to have any details on this,
love finding out about history, dont really have much on the usa side of things,
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I googled "Doolittle" and came up with the following web pages.
Jimmy Doolittle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaLt Col James H. Doolittle, USAAF (front), leader of the raiding force, wires a Japanese medal to a 500-pound bomb, during ceremonies on the flight deck of ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Doolittle - Cached - Similar pages
Doolittle Raid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaLt. Col. Jimmy Doolittle (second from left) and his crew pose in front of a B-25 ... Lt. Col Doolittle stated in his after action report that an operational ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doolittle_Raid - Cached - Similar pages
James Harold Doolittle, General, United States Air ForceWith the apparent certainty of being forced to land in enemy territory or to perish at sea, Lt. Col. Doolittle personally led a squadron of Army bombers, ...
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James Gregory Doolittle had a sister called Catherine also who was born circa 1844 does anyone have her correct date of birth in their files, and she died at Brittas Bay in 1898, I have the data and headstone photograph of that event as I also have the man who was the Harbour master or linked to coastguards stone photographed as well.
I would like to know also what year the first Charlotte daughter of Mary Ann Ryan was born if that is available also, as it would clarify for me which girl married William Byrne, as I had only one Charlotte in my list of 10 children and I note there is 12?
Also I have located 10 children for the Wall -Doolittle marriage was there more?
Also located 7 Children for the Nichols -Doolittle marriage was there more?
And of course the one we are all intirgued by is John who was lost amongst the indians, guess he may have been an Indian agent if such things were going on back then.
I also have the 5/5/1858 for his birth date and I would have gleaned this from parish records BUT I may have written down wrong is there a confirmation from anyone else on this date to make my record correct.
I do have data I am willing to share if I have details no one else has.
Yours in gen
Cara
PS JAmes Dollittle died at sea any idea on where on that detail?
I might add this is the most questions I have asked in regards to genealogy in a month of sundays.
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DOOLITTLE, THOMAS. Rank: Sergeant. Regiment or Service: Royal Dublin Fusiliers. Unit; 9th Bn. Date of Death: 08-August-1917. Service No: 8036. Born in Wicklow. Enlisted in Dublin while living in Wicklow. Killed in Action. Grave or Memorial Reference: He has no known grave but is listed on Panel 44 and 46 on the Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial in Belgium.
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Hi to all Doolittles,
Can I pass on a tip I was given when first started to do research, which I have found to be very helpful indeed.
Put the mothers maiden name in brackets before the surname, i.e. Catherine (Connor) Doolittle.
I have a son who is has the same christian name as his father, Grandfather, Gr.Grandfather etc. He is the 6th gerneration with the same christian name, which makes it very difficult when talkiing about the generations.
Now for some answers, I hope will help Cara:
Catherine (Connor) Doolittle died 17th May 1898 age 54 yrs, bc 1844) daughter of George Doolittle & Catherine (Downes) Connor. She married Thomas Delahunt who hied 14th January 1892 age 48 yrs. They are both burind in Castletimon (new) Holy Trinity Church, Church of Ireland.
Edward (Connor) Doolittle, son of Catherine (Downes) Connor, married 29th August 1886 in St. Patrick's Church, Wicklow Town to Mary Ryan. Mary was bp. in St Patrick's CVhurch 30th August 1812. They had 12 Chrildren.
1 Mary (Ryan Doolittle, Bp 1837 married John Wall.
2 Celia Bp 17th March 1839 died 16th June 1912.
R.C. Church records - married 19th Oct 1862 to Thomas Wall. Wit. Peter Doolittle & Jane Wall. C 1911 married 49 yrs 11 children born 5 alive in 1911.
1 Elizabeth (Doolittle) Wall b 1863 married James Redmond
2 Edward b 1864
3 Thomas Bp 1866 died 1866
4 Mary Charlottle called Dill 1868 - 1910
5 William called Will bp 21 Oct 1869, died 6th May 1931
6 Thomas (2nd) bp 16th July 1871
7 John Fraqncis called Jack bp 4th Dec, 1872
8 George
9 Peter
10 Celia EmiliaNurse, never marrid called 'Big Miss Wall' as she looked after a niece called 'Little Miss Wall' and nephew Edward, as their parents died when they were very young
11 James born 22nd October 1882 and was bp 24th October. He died either at sea or in Adelaide age 23 yrs. He is buried in Adelaide (verbal information)
Another Doolittle married a Wall I will forward this on later.
Julia
3 Sophia L. Bp 29th Oct. 1840 died 10th Aug 1913. married George Francis Nichelson, in Rathdrum Reg. Office. This was a mixed marriage i.e. George was C of Ireland and Sophia was R.C.
4 George Dolittle b 1842 - Deaf & Dumb according to Arthur's census of 1911 he never married.
5 Peter Doolittle b 1844, occ Harbour Master ref. c 1901, never married
6 Charlotte b 1847
7 Arthur b 1849 married Teresa Dunne . c 1911 states she was born in Dublin married 22 yrs 4 children born & 4 still alive 1911.
8 Charlotte b 1849 married William Byrne (Carpenter), 2 known daughters Sarah Anne b 3 July 1870 & Emily Catherine Bp 19 December 1877.
9 Edward b 1850
10 Emma born c 1853
11 James b 1856
12 John Christopher b 1858.
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Headstone
Erected | in Memory of | MARY DOOLITTLE | who died 21st January 1882, aged 57 {bc 1825}|
and her husband | EDWARD DOOLITTLE | who died 21st June 1886, aged 74{bc 1812} | and
their children | EDWARD DOOLITTLE | died 20th April 1892, aged 42 {bc 1850} |
GEORGE DOOLITTLE | died 7th November 1908, aged 66 {bc 1822}|
JAMES DOOLITTLE | died 11th January 1912, aged 57{bc 1855} |
PETER DOOLITTLE | died 24th October 1914, aged 70 {bc 1844} | R.I.P.
c 1901 b43 High St Wicklow 62/23
All Roman Catholic except George R. All could Read & write & all born Wicklow except George R.
He was born Dublin
1 George F Nichols Head of household Methodist 53 yrs (bc 1848) House Carpenter, mar born Dublin
2 Sophia L Nichols wife, Roman Catholic, R&W 50 yrs (bc 1851) Dressmakers, mar. Born Wicklow
3 Hester C Nichols daughter 24 yrs (bc 1877) Dressmaker single
4 Emily C Nichols daughter 21 yrs (bc 1880) Dressmaker single
5 Rosanna dau 28yr (bc 1873 should this have read '18yrs'? Apprentice Dressmaker, single
6 James M Nichols, son 15yrs (bc 1886) Apprentice House Carpenter, single
c 1911 b19 High St Wicklow 65/23
Private Dwelling, 5 windows in front of 2nd class house, 4 rooms occupied by 6 persons.
No out offices. All could Read & write & all born Wicklow except George R. He was born Dublin
All Catholic except George, Church of Ireland
1 George F Nichols Head c of I, 67 yrs (bc 1844 Cabinet maker, mar 47yr (mc 1864) born Dublin
2 Sophia (nee Doolittle) wife, Catholic, R&W 70 yrs (bc 1841)12 children born but only 6 alive 1911
3 Emily Nichols daughter 31 yrs (bc 1880) Dressmaker single
4 Rose Nichols daughter 28yr (bc 1883) Dressmaker, single
5 James J Nichols, son 26yrs (bc 1885) Carpenter, single, born Wicklow
6 Annie Doyle Niece Catholic 14yr (bc 1897) Apprentice, single born Wicklow
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The other Wall family, I don't know which one you already have, but here goes
Catherine (Connor) Doolittle 1827 - 1880 4th Child of George Doolittle & Catherine Connor
Married 8th November 1852 in St Patrick's Church, Wicklow Town to John Wall (Sailor) son of Richard Wall & Rose Lamb
Children baptised in St Patrick's Church, Wicklow
1 Richard (Doolittle) Wall Bp. 9th March 1854 (Sea Captain) died 1935
Married 6 August 1884 Maria ffoulkes born in Wales, reared in Wicklow, they had only 1 child (who I knew) Mary Catherine affectionaly known as Babby Kate, one of her daughters Marie is my informant on this family. She was aged 84 in May of this year and still walks to mass every day about a mile, and wears her high heels. More family still living in Wicklow
2 George bap 18th Feb 1855 died 27th Mar 1810. Occupation = seafaring man. Married Mary Jane
Mullen they had 11 children descendants still living in Wicklow.
3 Micahel bap 29th September 1856.
4 Mary Anne bap 13 May 1858
5 Catherine b 4th Jan. bap 8 Jan 1860, died 27 Dec 1851 widow. c 1911 "Widow 9 children born 8 alive. Their last child Bridget (Bridie) was born 4th Nov 1902. They were our next door neighbours.
married 6 July 1879 James Kavanagh b 1856 - 1903 son of Michael Kavanagh and brother of Samuel Kavanagh. He married Ellen Reynolds born Arklow and they had issue 7 children.
Note for Catherine (Doolittle) Kavanagh: Obituary in The Wicklow People.
"Her home was haven of shelter for men 'on the run' during troubled times.
She loved to tell of events which occurred in her local town from the days of the famine.
The cortège to 3 mile water cemt. on Sat included 13 grand-sons 3 grand-daughters 7 great grand-children. Mourners were:
James & Richard (sons) Mrs Nellie Mitchell & Miss Bride Kavanagh daughters Mrs Nora McGann sister. (Thanks to Mrs Ann Mitchell (wife of John) for cuttings Oct 2000)
Her Husband James Kavanagh died of a Heart attack while working on The Fastnet Lighthouse died when his 9th child, Bridie was just 8 mths old. See Obituary "Wicklow People" Sat 11th July 1903.
"Remains were conveyed by Irish Lights Tender "Ierne". The enaign was lowered to half mast when the Coastguard station was in view. 2 boats were lowered the coffin lowered from starboard into one & towed by 2 Irish Lights men to pier. Lifted by 4 men from Wicklow Coastguard station. Over 1000 people followed remains along quay to deceased's home".
Funeral on Wed, "business houses shuttered & business suspended while the cortege passed through the town". My thanks to his grandson, James Kavanagh for birth & death dates of His grandparents, Aunts & Uncles. (March 2005)
Headstone 'Old' cemt.
"Foreman of Irish Lights Service Works who dept this life at Rock Island This stone was erected by his sorrowing family & officers & fellow workmen of the service as a token of their esteem and regard" (researched 18th August 1996)
6 John never married bp 26th April 1861
7 Elizabeth called Llyle bp 28 May 1863 married Pat Cullen 10th Nov 1897. 2 children 1 Jack b 1899 married and had issue, some still living in Wicklow. 2 Peg 1902-1991 nover married.
8 Maria bp 25th March 1865 died 10th June 1951. married Joseph Kavanagh 23rd Jan 1889. They had 10 children, some family still in Wicklow.
9 Margaret called Mag. c 9th Jan bap 9th January 1867 died 6th May 1933 married John Byrne they had 11 children.
10 Rosanna b 15th May bap 19th May 1869 died 7th March 1838, married James Goodman 28th April 1899. Cencus 1911 Rosanna states married 13 yrs no children.
11 Norah b 10th April bap 16th April 1871 died 2nd Feb 1963. \Married Ted McGahan no issue.
The newest addition to this family was born 28th May 2009 3rd Great Grandson of Catherine & John Wall
Julia
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GPV. Wicklow 1854 Printed version 1864.
Civil Parish of Kilpoole. Townland = Town of Wicklow, Main Street. = p.147 Ord. S. 25.
No & Letter of Reference to Map = 2. Was this later the Mall Ballroom? Now Bank of Scotland (1008)
Occupier = Thomas Doolittle: Immediate Lessor = Town Commissioners of Wicklow
Description of Tenement = House (unfinished) office & yard:
Valuation of Buildings £21.0.0. Total Annual Valuation of Rateable Property £21.0.0.
P.R.O. Four Courts Dublin List of Voters for East Wicklow 1894: ref. 1C 10 136
No 279 Peter Doolittle The Mall Wicklow Rated Occupier 18.0s.0d Ho Off & Yd
The only census available to us in Wiklow are c 1901 and 1911. The next census was not taken until 1926, which is the first of the Irish Free State, and they will not be opened until 2026 (100 years closure)
Census 1901 B15 Main St Wicklow 62/25 Peter, RC. Could read & write, age 56 yrs, Harbour Master, single.
Also at b15 Main Street, was James Redmond BK5 1713 & family (Hugh Redmond)
Voters Register for Co Wicklow 1895 (Ref. N.A.I. 1C 10 138 pg 4 No 272)
The Mall rated occ. 18.0.0. The Mall Wicklow, Ho Off & Yd (Later The Mall Ballroom)
Redmonds had top floor flat, before moving to 10 Summer Hill, Castle Ward. Info Hughie Redmond.
Book = Hubert Gallway "The Wall family in Ireland" (Naas 1970) pp 34, 45-8 referenced in "A New History of Ireland" by T.W. Moody, F. X. Martin, F. J. Byrne [have not consulted it yet JMF].
G.P.V. Wicklow 1854 --- Market Square p.148
No 1: Occupier = Thomas Wall. Immediate Lessor = Town Commissioners of Wicklow
Description of Tenement = House & yard. Total Annual Valuation of Rateable Property = £1. 10. 00
"This house was built by John Wall an ancester of Leo Cullen whose Mother was Loo Lavery, & grandmother was McGuirk, they all lived in this house, in Market Square." info Leo Cullen & local knowledge".
Hospital Lane: p.151.
No 37: Occupier = William Wall. Immediate Lessor = James Byrne.
Description of Tenement = House & yard. Total Annual Valuation of Rateable Property = £1. 10. 00
Court House Lane: p.151.
No 5: Occupier = John Wall. Immediate Lessor = Susan McDowell..
Description of Tenement = office. Total Annual Valuation of Rateable Property = 10/=
Correction Hill, (Quarantine Hill) Wicklow p 153
No 3: Occupier = John Wall. Immediate Lessor = Susan McDowell.
Description of Tenement = House, office yard & small garden. Total Annual Valuation of Rateable Property = £4. 10. 00.
If you are getting fed up with all this information just say! I JUST LOVE KEEPING IT UP TO DATE
JMF
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I am dara ohuiginn, ex Dublin. My Morhter was a McGahan of Wicklow. Her father married Anetter Wall. Annette Wall I believe was the brother of a Thomas Wall and an Eliza Doolittle. I do not an eliza doolittle but I do see an Elizabeth who might have been the same.
My mother referred to a Captain James (?) wall who died at sea and I think I have some information on that in an old news clipping. I will go on a hunt.
Does anyone know more about the McGahans of Wicklow.
I remember visiting Wicklow town with my parents and seeing a very old woman who was fondly known as "Baiiie Kate". There were many big strpping fellows around as I remembe and the house was on a hil up from the Harbour. I have visited the harbour a few times since.
So at least one can now trace down from Eliza Doolittle.
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Hi,
You are definately on the right track. The old lady you visited was called Babby Kate1887 - 1983, her daughter is still hale & harty born 1915 .,
The hill you remember is called Kilmantin Hill.
Was your father Thomas if so they married in St. Patrick's Church, Wicklow Town. According to
St Patrick's R.C.Church Records the witnesses were, Annie Jameson Dublin & John McGuire The Mall Wicklow.
Annetta's address on the marriage cert is 'Ardkeen' Dunbur Road, Wicklow (this house is now demolished)
census 1901 b 13 The Mall Wicklow 62/37
all Roman Catholic, could read & write, children 'not married' all born 'Wicklow' except father Hugh born Louth
1 Hugh McGahan, head of household, age 62 yrs [bc 1839 in Louth] occupation = Joiner
2 Maria (nee ? ) wife 50 yr [bc 1851] Housekeeper
3 Thomas McGanan (Thomas was crossed out on the census, had he died?)
4 Edward McGahan, son 24 yr [bc 1877] Mariner A.B.
5 Emily McGahan, daughter 22 yr [bc 1877] Dressmaker
6 Hugh (Called Dannie) McGahan son 20 yr [bc 1881] Joiner
7 George McGahan son 18 yr [bc 1883] Joiner
Census 1911: 10.2 in Bond Street (Wicklow Urban, Wicklow) 65/49
McGahan Maria, head of household, R.C. could red & write age 74 [bc 1837] Widow married 38 yrs [mc 1873] 5 children born 4 alive.
Known History:
1 Thomas:
2 Ted 1877 - Nov 1958 he married Norah Wall (They lived on Kilmantin Hill) and had no issue: Norah was the 11th child of John Wall & Catherine Doolittle.
3 Emily b 1879:
4 Danny b 1881: married Maggie Carroll they had 7 children.
c 1911 b16 Leitrim Place 65/55 age 30 mar 2 yrs 1 ch 1 living Joiner
5 George b 1883. I dont know anything about George he was on the census or 1901 age 18 yrs, single occupation Joiner.
Hope this is the correct family.
JM Flannery :)
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forgot to mention they were married on 18 Sep 1905
JMF
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Until I dig through some papers I think the following is related
Thomas MaGahan married Annette Wall. So perhaps two of the brothers married sisters (?).
One of the children of Thoimas and Annette was a Hugh McGahan also - probably given the name out of respect for his grandfather. Hugh went off to Rhodesia around the thirties and never came back. My mother was Sheila McGahan OhUiginn. There were some eight children I believe and I have some records of them.
My Grandfather Thomas was also a carpenter according to stories of my mother so I assume he learned the trade from his father before him.
Thomas and Anette lived in Briton Gardens, Dublin for many years. Thomas died around 1958 or so as I have a memory of visiting him on his deathbed. A funny story there as he asked my mother to recite Sheakespeares Soliquey and when she could not he berated her as not knowing anything at all. He is buried in one of two small cemeteries near Wicklow. I tried to find his grave a few years ago without luck due to nettles and such.
The reason for the cross out may have been due to some bad wrods spoken in the family. My mother referred to such long long ago but the details I do not know.
More when I can but I am very grateful to you for all this knowledge . It has kindled a renewed interest. I have been to Wicklow various times over the last few years and wandered around. Perhaps I will see if I can reconnect with someone there next spring.
I live in Canada now byut get there often. Yourself?
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The Wall's of Wicklow were quite a large seafaring family and believe it or not there are only 2 male descendants of these families by the name of Wall living in Wicklow Town, neither are married, so the name Wall in Wicklow Town will be gone with them. There are other Wall descendants but not called Wall. One of these gentlemen has been researching the family for a number of years now.
Annetta Wall, married Thomas McGahan, on 18 Sep 1905, son of Hugh McGann & Maria ?
Her parents were Christopher Wall of Market Square Wicklow & Lizzie (Elizabeth) Dixon (1866-1919)
State Records = Marriage of Christopher Wall, Market Sq., Wicklow, son of William Wall (Decd) Sailor
To Elizabeth Ellen Dixon, Milliner of Summerhill, dau of Thomas Dixon (Alive) occupation = Baker
They were married in St. Patrick's R.C. Church 6 Aug 1882. They had 3 sons, & 3 daughters.
Christopher died 5 May 1917. Lost at sea with son William (1888 - 5th June 1917)
1911 Corporation Lands (pt of) Civil Parish of Kilpoole, Wicklow Urban. 65/11
(This is on or near the Golf Course) Only 2 properties on 65/11
b1= Private Dwelling 4 windows in front of 2nd class house. 9 rooms occupied by 4 persons.
Head of family is Christopher, not at home on this night. Landholder = Sylvester Delahunt.
No out offices. All 4 were Roman Catholic, all could read & write and all born Wicklow.
1 Elizabeth Ellen Wall (Nee Dixon) head of household, age 48 yrs [bc 1863]
married 28 yrs [mc 1883] 5 children born 5 alive.
2 Christina Wall, daughter age 17 yrs [bc 1894] single
3 Thomas Wall, son age 12 yrs [bc 1899]
4 Sarah Ann Wall, Sister age 45 yrs [bc 1866] single born Wicklow.
Christopher had a sister Sarah Ann, on census 1911= b1 Corportion Lands, 65/11 (with sister-in- law Elizabeth) age 45 single. Don't know anything more of her. Their father was William Wall
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Norah's parents were:
John Wall, Irishtown, (1824-1827) & Catherine Doolittle, Wicklow (c 1827-1880) who married 8 Nov 1852 St Patrick's R C Church, Wicklow Ireland. Their witnesses were John Neill & Ellen Kingston. They had 4 sons, & 7 daughters. John's parents were Richard Wall & Rose Lamb (bc 1800)
Dont's froget about variants of the names McGann; Gahan, etc. Would love to bring your family up to date, if you are willing to pass on the information. You can send me a E-mail with the permission of the Moderator.
Julia
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Hi Dara,
With tanks to you, mentioning the Dublin connection, I was able to look up McGahan in the 1911 census and found the following. Hope it helps
Census 1911: b 50 in Raymond St. (Merchants Quay Ward (part of), Dublin) 72/53 file 3. Civil Parish of St. Catherine
2 windows in front of 2nd class house, 5 rooms occupied by 7 persons (2 were boarders)
All 5 Roman Catholic, Parents could read & write.
McGahan Thomas Francis, head of household age 36 [bc 1875] house carpenter, born Co Wicklow had both Irish & English.
McGahan Annette, wife age 26 [bc 18485] married 5 yrs [mc 1906] 3 children born 3 alive, born Dublin City
McGahan Ita, daughter age 4 born Dublin City
McGahan Maire, daughter age 2 born Dublin City
McGahan Hugh son age 9 months, [bc June] 1910. born Dublin City
By the way I am living in Wicklow Town, so the interest in all Wicklow Town people, past & present. My husband says I know more people under the ground that over the ground. Perhaps we can meet up in the Spring p.g. when you visit Wicklow.
Julia
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Thank you ever so much Julia. So many details and surprises coming "out of the ground" so to speak.
Thomas McGahan and Anette Wall McGahan had the following as best I can note.
Sheila (my mother) - Aug 3o, 1916 - d.June 21st 2006 and well remembered for our time together with lashings of tea and chat.
Fionnula - my mother's sister - d.approx 2005 she was a teacher, married XXXX -- I am still in touch with her children those cousins.
Sister Mary Kevin - don't know here original name at the moment but I am sure I have it somewhere. She was a teacher in the convent in Clondalkin for many years and died probably in the 1980's.
Another Sister - we used to call her "Poor Prayers" was shipped off to Africa but eventually came back and I saw here one in the convent in Dundalk where she died in 2007 I think.
Eithne - my other Aunt married a XXXX. I am close with XXXX who is my first cousin and a great pal now. He was dating XXXX who lives up in Wicklow town and delightful woman but that ended last year. I hope to get back in touch with her next time over as I stayed for a few nights in her house before.
I will send email through the moderator as I gather that is the right way.
Slan,
Dara
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...I will send email through the moderator as I gather that is the right way.
Slan,
Dara
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Shane
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Somewhere in the text there was a reference to another WALL family, noting that the subject family is from Wicklow as in Wicklow Town (as opposed to the county) could it be that the Dunlavin WALL family is the other one?
Type 'Edward Wall 1901' in your address bar and it will come up with 1901 census portraying Edward and Kate Wall as owning a Dunlavin, Wicklow home and living with two of their still unmarried sons ~ as to whether or not there's a family link I would not know.
FYI Edward and Kate Wall were my great grandparents
Pete Wall USA.
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Julia, I started researching the Wall family of Wicklow some time ago as I was a seafarer and always had a strong affinity with ships and the sea - the explanation in the family was that there were seafarers on my father's side coming from Wicklow. My great grandmother was Elizabeth Wall and she married James Byrne in Wicklow (ST Pats, I guess) in 1837. Her sister, I think, Jane, was bridesmaid. I thought I had it all sorted out with George Wall (married to Mary jane Mullen) being her brother: wrong! It ws then that I fell off a cliff edge with so many Walls that I am now dizzy.
Can you throw any light on 'my' Elizabeth Wall?
Thanks a million,
David
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Hi David,
Sorry do not have this information. Can you give me a little more help, Parents or children. Would love to be able to help more as I have a lot of information on Wall families. I know George & Tom Wall well. They are the last of the Walls in Wicklow and as neither of them married, they will be the last of the Wall name in the town unfortunately.
Julia
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Re: "My Elizabeth Wall"
Probably not yours but we have one in County Wicklow = Elizabeth Wall B. Dunlavin 1862 and married Michael Gaul @ Saint Josephs in nearby Baltinglass on July 02 1884.
Elizabeth 'Wall' Gaul in 1923 was buried in Liverpool's Ford Cemetery.
pete wall
PS. There's a recently re-released book that might help, originally published by Dublin's Leinster Press,
Title: The Wall Family in Ireland from 1170 to 1970, Author Hubert Galway ~ I do not known name of the latest publisher but they are in Ireland.
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Thanks for your very quick responses. I have the following:
Elizabeth Wall was baptised in Avoca 25th February 1837. Her father was Christopher Wall and her mother is given as Bess Wall. Elizabeth married James Byrne in Wicklow 25th July 1856, as far as I can tell.
In the 1901 English census she and James are living in Widnes (she and james went over there as part of the migration of Irish workers to the chemical works there in the 1860s/1870s). They had three children, one of whom was my grandfather, also James. At the time of the census they had a visitor, Patrick Wall, a seafarer, given as Elizabeth's nephew. At the same time in Widnes George Wall (married to Mary Jane Mullen) was there as Master of a ship called the ROCKINGHAM, together with three crew. I previously guessed that Patrick was anjoying a spot of shore leave on the day of the census from his father's ship and hence George was Elizabeth's brother - not quite right it now seems!
I can see that I am going to have to come and visit Wicklow!
Kind regards,
David
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Hi Julia,
Does your silence mean that I have reached the end of the line with this one?
Regardless of that, thanks for your generosity in sharing what you have on the Wall family of Wicklow.
Kind regards,
David
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Hi David,
Never say never - My computer and internet have been down for about 2 weeks now, but up and running again. I have been working on the family, but have not made the connection YET. Will be in touch soon. Sorry for the long delay.
Julia
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Our Wall family has its roots in County Wicklow, namely: Dunlavin, Baltinglass, Blessington and more recently Dublin suburbs and Arklow. The Wall family website is wallclan on tribalpages.com.
Edward and Sarah Wall gave birth to their 1st child James Wall on May 28 1861 and his baptism was (2) days later on May 30 1861 @ Saint Nicholas Church in Dunlavin.
pete wall
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you will find George Wall father and son ? and a Patrick Wall here
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/cl/index.jsp
strangely enough the ''Rockingham'' was also enumerated in Wicklow with 3 men same date as English census though the original census return seems to be missing
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001320340/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wicklow/Wicklow_Town/Corporation_Murragh/1817816/
George appears to have died 1910 age 54 ? informant daughter Lylie (Lilly ? )
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05429/4517987.pdf
possible 1901 for his family
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Kilmore/Ballyteige/1806910/
edited to add
the above census is probably the family of Alfred Benny Wall chief officer on a Lightship
daughter Norah 1892
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02327/1871410.pdf
1901 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Kilmore/The_Coninbeg_Light_Ship/1806912/
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Hello all Doolittle researchers,
There is another Doolittle child of George Doolittle and Catherine (Connor) Doolittle - Honoria Doolittle. I have been unable to find her birth, but it should be in the late 1820s/early 1830s. Honoria married William Darragh (abt 1828-1920) of Wicklow in the 1860's. William is my 2x great-granduncle (brother of my 2x great-grandfather Thomas Darragh). William was a seafarer, captain, master mariner, and later was the owner of several vessels and a shipyard on the Wicklow waterfront (one ship I can think of offhand is "Ocean Maid"). It is possible that Honoria Doolittle's seafaring family sailed on William Darragh's vessels. In reading through these past posts on the Doolittle family, I noted William as a godparent to a child of one of Honoria's siblings.
William and Honoria lived in Summerhill, Wicklow, and had four children, none of whom survived to marry. Children:
William (Willie) 1865-1883 Lost at sea on one of his father's ships. COD: Drowning. Local lore said that William could not swim, and when a "great wind arose, his father tied him to the mast so that he could not be swept off the ship". But when the ship capsized, he was drowned. Sponsors at his baptism were James Riely and Rosanna Wall.
Catherine (Katie) 1867-1888 Baptism sponsors were ? and Maria Doolittle.
Honoria (1869-1871) Baptism sponsors were James Conway and Eliza Neil.
John Arthur (1871-1872) Baptism sponsors were John Flynn and Catherine Morgan.
Honoria Doolittle Darragh died Nov 11, 1911 (age 79, married, wife of sea captain, cardiac disease, grand-niece Katie Kavanaugh present at death).
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Have you Links to all the records you cite?
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All of the births are in the NLI RC parish records available on-line.
William, Jul 10 1865
Catherine Jun 1867
Honoria Feb 24 1869
John Arthur Apr 7 1871
I believe all the births are repeated in Irish civil records, and the deaths might be as well. Also, in Findmypast, there's reference to a monument William Darragh erected to his deceased wife and children. William the son appears in several "Lost at sea" databases.
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Those births are all RC church, Wicklow.
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I believe all the births are repeated in Irish civil records, and the deaths might be as well. Also, in Findmypast, there's reference to a monument William Darragh erected to his deceased wife and children. William the son appears in several "Lost at sea" databases.
They most probably are!
Names of informants might be interesting.
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Welcome to RootsChat, capon :)
Name WILLIAM DARRAGH
Date of Event 1864
Group Registration ID N/R
SR District/Reg Area Dublin South
Returns Year 1864
Returns Quarter 1
Returns Volume No 12
Returns Page No 617
Name HONORA DOLITTLE
Date of Event 1864
Group Registration ID N/R
SR District/Reg Area Dublin South
Returns Year 1864
Returns Quarter 1
Returns Volume No 12
Returns Page No 617
KG
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Thanks very much for the marriage year. I'm sure I had seen it in civil records, but for some reason didn't enter it in my genealogy database (and so assumed it wasn't available). Honoria Doolittle is ancillary to my tree, and her family had no direct descendants, but I was intrigued by the story of the death of hers and William Darragh's son. And because on my father's side, I encountered a similar story - my 2x ggf's 17 yo son sailed with him out of St. John's NFLD, and also died at sea, albeit of a diphtheria outbreak aboard ship. It's also interesting that some of William Darragh's nephews (my great-granduncles) were occasionally part of his crews.
I visited Wicklow town in summer 2017 and was able to see the site of the shipyard, and also the street where most of the Darraghs lived.
capo'n
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Hi Doolittle's i am a descendant of George Doolittle b1783 and Catherine Connor b1780 through their son John Doolittle b1822 who married Ellen Cooney b1823 through their daughter Catherine Doolittle b1845 who married Charles Hawes b1845.
My question to anyone with information is about Edward Doolittle b1812 & Mary Ryan's daughter Mary or Maria Doolittle b1837. I am trying to work out whom she married.
I have 2 possibilities.
There is a Mary Doolittle & John Wall who had a daughter Mary Wall 22nd March 1865 in Ashford Wicklow OR
Maria Doolittle who married Hugh McGahan 22nd April 1873. This lists here father as Edward.
I cannot find a marriage for Mary & John Wall - Could it be 2 different Mary's, or she married twice.
Hope someone can help. Cheers
Linda Qld Australia
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Hello,
I am seeking the birth certificate for my 2nd great grandfather, James Gregory Doolittle. He was born in July of 1855 in Wicklow, Ireland. James was the son of Thomas Doolittle (Harbor Commisioner and Coal Merchant in Main, St. Wicklow) and Mary Anna Gregory. He had a brother named Thomas Arthur. Both James and Thomas were mariners and moved to Liverpool, England to work there.
James immigrated to the US in 1893, naturalized and died in Salt Lake City in 1924. I don't know if Thomas followed his brother or stayed in Liverpool.
Any information, stories, documents and/or pictures of anyone is this family or local would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you so much,
Kristin
These men had a sister, Anne Mary Doolittle who married Patrick Dunn[e] (d.1904) in St. Mary's Pro-Cathedral, Dublin, Ireland in 1888. They seem to have had at least 4 children.
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These men had a sister, Anne Mary Doolittle who married Patrick Dunn[e] (d.1904) in St. Mary's Pro-Cathedral, Dublin, Ireland in 1888. They seem to have had at least 4 children.
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Anna M Doolittle married Patrick Dunn.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10785/5932990.pdf
First child, daughter Bridget Mary born 1889 at Swords.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02464/1915223.pdf
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....Anne Mary Doolittle who married Patrick Dunn[e] (d.1904) in St. Mary's Pro-Cathedral, Dublin, Ireland in 1888. They seem to have had at least 4 children.
Dunne - 1901 census
House 7 in North Street (Swords, Dublin).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Swords/North_Street/1267219/
Dunne - Doolittle
Catherine Mary born 1892
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02358/1881210.pdf
Martha Mary Louisa also born 1892
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02326/1870987.pdf
Thomas Patrick Joseph born 1894
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02239/1843556.pdf
Patrick George Joseph born 1895
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02194/1829788.pdf
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Anna Mary Dunne (nee Doolittle) in 1911 census, a widow.....looks like six children born. Bridget Mary now there, with her two younger sisters and younger brother.
House 45 in North Street (Swords East, Dublin).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Swords_East/North_Street/4977/
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....through their daughter Catherine Doolittle b1845 who married Charles Hawes b1845.
Charles James HAWES married Catherine Mary DOOLITTLE on 12th September 1869 at St Paul's Parish Church, Dublin.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1869/11429/8198166.pdf
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Patrick Dunne and Anna Mary Doolittle also had a daughter named Mary Anne Dunne who was born in Swords on 3 Jan 1891.
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Patrick Dunne and Anna Mary Doolittle also had a daughter named Mary Anne Dunne who was born in Swords on 3 Jan 1891.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1891/02400/1895045.pdf
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Patrick Dunne and Anna Mary Doolittle also had a daughter named Mary Anne Dunne who was born in Swords on 3 Jan 1891.
I have learned the following about Patrick Dunne and Anna Mary Doolittle's daughter, Mary Anne Dunne from Sr. Luzia Koch, General Secretary, Sisters of Divine Providence, Munster, Germany:
"On October 17, 1911 she entered the congregation of the Sisters of Divine Providence in Munster.
On May 23, 1912 she was received into the novitiate.
On April 16, 1914, she took her first vows.
She died on December 21, 1916.
She was buried in the cemetery at the Vorsechtungskloster in St. Mauritz, Münster."
There was a report on Mary Anne's first vows in the Wicklow Newsletter of 2 May 1914 on Page 7. The article stated that she was the "daughter of Mrs Dunne of Swords" and granddaughter of "the late Mr. Thomas Doolittle of Wicklow" and that her name in religion was Sister Patricis.
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Hi there, I was very interested to find this chat! My grandfather was:
Thomas Patrick Joseph Dunne born 1894
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02239/1843556.pdf
I have been working to find more about his family tree- his mother's side were Doolittles from Wicklow, and his grandfather was the James Gregory Doolittle the original poster mentioned (who would have been my great, great grandfather.
Two mysteries in the family I am trying to find out:
- the parents/origins of Mary Anna Gregory, who married James Gregory Doolittle in Wicklow.
- more about the paternal side of my grandfather, Thomas Patrick Joseph Dunne. His father was Patrick Dunne, but I have no knowledge of Patrick Dunne's parents. Thank you!
- Kerry Dunne
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Sorry a quick edit/update on my post:
The original poster's query for James Gregory Doolittle- he was the brother of my great grandmother, Anna Mary Doolittle, who married Patrick Dunne and lived with him in Swords, Co. Dublin. Their child, Thomas Patrick Joseph Dunne was my grandfather, emigrating to the US and ultimately settling in California.
My great-great grandparents would be Thomas Doolittle and Mary Anna Gregory of Wicklow. I am very interested in finding out any information about Mary Anna Gregory-- parents, and was she a convert to Roman Catholicism?