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Research in Other Countries => Canada Lookup Request => Canada => Canada Lookup Requests Completed => Topic started by: lindy-lou on Sunday 30 September 07 18:45 BST (UK)
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is it possible one of u very nice people could try and find out the name of the ship a relative went to Quebec on
name; William G CHADS, left to go to QUEBEC from LIVERPOOL in 1895, William was 18 years old.
thank you
Lindy-lou
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Hi,
Name: W G CHADS
Date of departure: 27 June 1895
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Quebec, Canada
Passenger destination: Quebec, Canada
Age: 18
Marital Status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Lab
Ship:
SARDINIAN
Hope it helps,
Kaz
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Here's information on the ship if it's the right one.
http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=17346
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hi kaz & jeffster
thank you so much for the info..........kaz i don't know how you get the info but a big hug from me, this is info on a great grandfather i knew nothing about..........jeffster the world is a small place after all, i had a look at the website and cant believe it i only live 5 miles away.
thank you both so much
lindy-lou :)
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Hi, lindy-lou & welcome to rootchat...
Your W.G. Chads seems to have been transcribed under the home children
site...http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/archivianet/home-children/001015-100.01-e.php
which I just recently found out may or may not be so....
Have to do some digging on that, or was he known to have been sent
as part of Dr. Barnardo's Party of children?
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Yes, he is listed here, and there is a letter from either the home or his employer....Did you have this information? J.J.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/april1900boys53.html
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Do you have the marriage information, then, as here is the marriage :
March 18th, 1903 in Winnipeg!
CHADS, WILLIAM GRANVILLE to BAKER, EMMA
http://web2.gov.mb.ca/cca/vital/Query.php
also the birth of Edna, Jan. 30th 1904
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You can find them here on Roberts Street...on the 1906 census...
William & wife Emma, Edna written as who knows what, and a baby, Flossie...
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census06/
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OhOh, I see that I have opened a can of worms ...I am very sorry....as I see on another site that you are looking for him with a Jean Cruickshank whom he married in 1911....
I found Florence & a Violet Chad age 4 in a children's home on River Street.
Perhaps something happened to Emma and he felt he couldn't raise the children alone...
Sorry to have opened a painful part of the puzzle. Unfortunately this is sometimes why so little might be known of an ancestor, but it is still part of his life. I see Herbert Chads, William's father, died the year he was sent to Canada... J.J.
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Could be your William in 1911 as looks to be chads on original...
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/View.jsp?id=35574&highlight=10
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hey JJ
i am so grateful for any info you can find out as it is all a mystery to me!!! i am trying to piece together my fathers line as i know nothing as my parents divorced when i was very young. is there any way we can communicate between ourselves??? i am new to this.
cheers for info it means alot
lindy-lou
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absolutely...just hit the wee green scroll to the left under my avatar and ask away...but when returning my messages, don't hit reply until you have answered within the body of the personal message area...it should say "send"...anyway, you'll find out what I mean... ;D J.J.
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Because he is a home child, I'll add this information for others who may be searching:
120 Edgware Rd 1881 census, London, Middlesex...
Herbert Chads age 43 born Trinidad, West Indies /Clerk
Annie - Wife age 34 Pembridge, Hereford
Herbert A. - age 12 / London, Middlesex
William G.P. - age 4 / London Scholar
Cecillia E. - age1 / London, Middlesex, England
also in householdGeorgina WEST Visitor
Marriages Sept. Q 1869
Marylebone vol.1a p.863
Herbert Chads....Annie Seaborn
The IGI has extracted births & christenings of
Edward William Cornell Chads
b. Aug 24th 1870
and Herbert Arthur Chads
b. Dec. 16 1868
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp
1891 shows full name for him and more siblings are listed...:
William Granville Parker Chads...
possible death for mother
March Q. 1892
Annie Chads age 46
Watford vol.3a p.477
possible death for father
March Q. 1895
Herbert Chads age 57
Fulham vol.1a p.326
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Oh, yay! Found something fun!
Herbert has moved next door in 1882 and writes a letter!
an early-on couch coach, it seems!
GENTLEMEN OF ENGLAND v AUSTRALIA halfway down page!
http://acscricket.com/Research/CricketMagazine/1882_vol1_no8.html
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Don't see a Seaborn birth on BMD for Presteigne district, but there's this possible if you ever find a tie-in...
Ann Seaborne- extracted IGI file
Christened August10 1845 Pembridge, Hereford
Parents William & Elizabeth
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Have not found anything at all on Jean Cruickshank ...so hopefully there is more information on that marriage cert! It's a crap shoot as to what information people chose to relate, as it seems they had the option to give more info other than basic ...Did anyone know age or where she was born?
J.J.
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....I have searched and searched for her on both censuses...none are local, and only a few in other Provinces...There is only one couple in Winnipeg in 1881...and if she is theirs she had to have been born within the 20 census years...
Boy I hope there is information on that cert for you...fingers crossed...
J.J.
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The family search database has a bit of a glitch...it will look for Cruickshank if you look for crookshank but not so in the reverse.
If you put in Jean it will look find Jane in U.K....but put in Jane and it shows the Janes in all 3 censuses ...go figure??
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So far here seems to be no sign of a Jane Cruickshank or parents
James Cruickshank & wife Jean ( nee Robertson)
In 1901 the only Jean I can find is this one by herself, in Toronto born Ont 1867 ....of Scottish descent so a little old to have 3 at that age...but she doesn't even show on the 1881 ::) ( maybe down as "Jane")
The only one without family 1911 is age 20 again in Toronto no info
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/View.jsp?id=83040&highlight=16
She's a little young, but works for a children's hospital, so might not be ruled out...
There is a couple in Northern Manitoba, James & Jane but they are younger than Wm himself! as are any other James and Janes I found as couples...
Only one matches for a James "Crookshank" and wife Jane 1881 at all, in Barrie, Simcoe Ontario...
so you may be looking at a birth in Scotland or Ireland....
Maybe someone might have something for you on the ship's lists... :-\ J.J.
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another tidbit from:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/oct1899notes.html
William Chads, April, 1895 / located at Lone Tree, P.O.
has own land / building a house and barn
did you ever send for the letter mentioned on a previous posting...although this may have been exactly what was discussed....but you never know...J.J.
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hi jj
nice to hear from you, i had a look but i can't figure out how to ask for a copy pf letter, can you help in that department??
linda
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Try writing to the email address under "Liverpool Series, on film " at the top of the page... ? . I am not sure myself...sorry... J.J.
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thanks for that will give it a go and let you know if i'm successful, would be nice to have it.
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This thread is looking for Jean Cruickshank, married to William Chads....Lindy-lou we can still look for more on her within this thread, I am just pointing to the connected urls to make sure there's a link again for those searching...Did you find out more on Jean...so sorry we have strayed so far into the Homechild aspect of this...
We have also found he married first to Emma Baker, a Homechild , her thread is here on the Canada board
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,307328.0.html
and looking for Emma and siblings in Kent England
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,498941.0.html
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Hi, JJ
Many thanks for linking posts together....I don't know which one to be replying on though?
I'm still no further forward trying to locate Jean Cruickshank in Canada, what I do have is just possibilities for her. There is a Jennie Cruickshank (Jennie could have been mis written for Jeanie) onboard Lake Champlain dep UK (think Liverpool) 21/7/1910 going to Quebec, age 21, which would be correct for Jean Cruickshank, occ Domestic.
My computer crashed and I lost alot of research but this is from memory, I'm sure on original passenger list it said destination was Toronto. Again from memory, I found a Jean Cruickshank on 1911 Toronto census listed as a domestc at a hospital in Toronto, age was about right for Jean. But when I try searching census again I can't locate her. Also on this census page was a Mary Cruickshank, as of yet I don't know if Jean had cousins etc named Mary.
I have everything of Jean's birth & death in Scotland and her family tree going back to c1740 but nothing concrete on her time in Canada.
Lindy-lou :)
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Have found in my well unorganised filing system a piece of paper with a reference to 1911 Toronto census: 1911/ontario/toronto/36 (ward 4)/pg1 line 16...............Lakeside House (Summer annex of Toronto Children's Hospital, Hanlon's Point. Jean Cruickshank age 20. I haven't made a note of nationality & arrival date in Canada :-[ will see if I can find census page again
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Yes this is the correct thread ...I read through to see that the census entry was given to you on an earlier reply #15 just above... http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=83040
age 20 a hospital attendant b. April 1891 age 20 immigration 1910 from Scotland
I will get the entry into Canada for you once again... and modify to add it to this same reply
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hospital attendant = non-medical duties so could be various duties to tending to patients or clerical it seems
question 1. What is the right birth information
2. So did you ever did find a marriage for them??
By the by Jean, Jane, Janet, Jennie, Janie, Jeannie, etc. all interchangeable apparently...... http://members.shaw.ca/nanaimo.fhs/X074.pdf
We won't go through the passenger list then until we hear back from you...
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Sorry for missing previous link to 1911 census, I should have re-read thread before replying.
Jean (Jane) Cruickshank dob 26/6/1888, Gartly, Aberdeenshire, parents James Cruickshank & Janet Robertson (they were both born, married & died in Scotand)
No, I haven't been able to find Jean's marriage to William, on my grandmother's birth cert, she was born 1917, Aberdeen it says Jean & William married 17/3/1911, Winnipeg.
Lindy-lou :)
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Arghh, my first reply went South...
I thought you had said the marriage took place in Ontario? If they married in Winnipeg in March, then do we have the wrong fellow?? It says Chads on the actual image, and there were no others about I don't think... and where is she??
The census started on June 1, although it can take quite a while to get everyone... Mind you the apartment supers would sometimes fill in blanks, maybe he didn't know they were hitched. Might have kept it a secret to avoid paying double occupancy... I may not have checked directories for him yet, or did I? So long ago I can't remember...
Sending for a marriage would be a good idea then, although they are not on the database
Modified to add new/working url http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php
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Found a death for a sister in B.C. though...
Jan. 6 1968, Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
Betsy Robertson Thomson ( Widow od James )
age71y born May 16 1896 Aberdeen, Scotland
Parents James Cruickshank & Janet Robertson
Film 2033931 Folder 4479278 Image 1207
BCAFilm # B13287 Reg # 68 09 001227
Holy Mackerl you had a lot answered by Kenjo http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,276201.0.html
You probably thanked her by p.m. but looks better to thank on the actual thread, so everyone knows you're grateful...
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I can look up the BC death registration for Betsy Robertson Thomson and give you a transcription of the document if it's of any use to you. It won't be for 2-3 weeks though as I'm hopelessly behind on my look-ups and I have a long list right now....isn't it annoying when life interferes with your hobby??!!
Susan
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Hi
JJ & Susan...thank you for your kind offer for a look up please don't. I found the death entry for Betsy Cruickshank and emailed cemetery, they kindly photographed her and husband James Thomson headstones for me. After this we were able to find obits for their children and made contact with one of their grandsons. On Saskatechewan war memorial site I found an entry for Norman William Thomson, this turns out to be Norman William Chads, William & Jean's son, who after their deaths went to stay with Betsy & James in Estevan and adopted the surmane Thomson.
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lindy ,maybe if you can contact me I may be able to help you on the Breslin line,I think your greatgrandfather was my grand fathers brother ,regards W Breslin .
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lindy ,maybe if you can contact me I may be able to help you on the Breslin line,I think your greatgrandfather was my grandfathers brother and they were twin brothers,also I have birth certificates dating 1869,regards W Breslin .
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Hi Badger4523
Thanks for making contact, if you reply to this I'll be able to send you a personnel message with my email details...so for now I'll look out all I know re Breslin's.
Lindy-lou :)
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Sorry for missing previous link to 1911 census, I should have re-read thread before replying.
Jean (Jane) Cruickshank dob 26/6/1888, Gartly, Aberdeenshire, parents James Cruickshank & Janet Robertson (they were both born, married & died in Scotand)
No, I haven't been able to find Jean's marriage to William, on my grandmother's birth cert, she was born 1917, Aberdeen it says Jean & William married 17/3/1911, Winnipeg.
Lindy-lou :)
My Grandmother was born in Winnipeg in 1912 and her parents were Jean(nee Cruikshank) and William Chads. Her mother Jeannie travelled on a ship to Glasgow in late 1912 and from there went onto Aberdeen where they set up a chain of sweet shops on the Aberdeen coastline. It is possible that my Grandmother and yours were sisters as my grandmother had a sister whom she lost contact with and a brother who she said went missing during the first world war. What was your Grandmother's name ?
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hi mrsnoname
thanks for getting in touch, this is exciting after years of researching, my grandmother name was Bessie, did your grandmother's name start with "E"? can you make 2 more posts and i'll be able to send you a private message. really looking forward to hearing from you.
lindy-lou :) :)
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Hello everyone! welcome, newcomers to rootschat! lindy-lou gets so much information trickling in bit by bit...
I never did find out where the Lone Tree, Man address was located but perhaps it was near Birtle, in Marquette Region of Manitoba where he now can be found in 1901 census as Chadd...labourer on the Sylvester farm. http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=64647&highlight=45
legend has it that Birtle was actuall Birdtail but it eventually changed to the quick phonetic way it was pronounced. Older boys were often send to Canada to be trained as farm boys and some were sent to Manitoba.
Just found that Charles Gandy and Horace Wm. Weldon were also Home children who are listed as residing in Lone Tree and in 1901 they are is Rossburn, Marguette, so we appear to have the right area http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=65005&highlight=44
The farm boys were sent to ( Barnardo's industrial farm) Russel Farm home, Marquette, Manitoba
http://genforum.genealogy.com/canada/manitoba/messages/1512.html
A newspaper clipping in 1902 has Wm G. Chads at a Wpg Hotel, and that he is from Rossburn
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hi mrsnoname
thanks for getting in touch, this is exciting after years of researching, my grandmother name was Bessie, did your grandmother's name start with "E"? can you make 2 more posts and i'll be able to send you a private message. really looking forward to hearing from you.
lindy-lou :) :)
Hello my Grandmother was called Evelyn or Eveline as recorded in the Ships log when she travelled with Jeanie to Scotland in 1912 from Canada. My Grandmother was 100 years old when she passed away on Sunday 23rd September 2012. It is indeed exciting if we could find out more about this as we could be related. Is your Grandmother still alive. I am not sure how this works but my email address is (*) and I would really love to hear from you.
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hi mrsnoname
so sorry to hear of your grandmothers passing. if you reply to this post you will then be able to private message me with your email address, if you click on the green scroll under my profile it will take you into the facility. yes i believe we could be related and would be nice to hear from.
lindy-lou
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myself and mrsnoname have made contact via PM
JJ...a huge heartfelt thank you for all your contributions over the years on this, i really appreciate all that you have done.
lindy-lou :) :)
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mrsnoname how fantastic that your grandmother lived a century...To be here for 10 decades or more is amazing, although I am sure her passing was hard on you, regardless of how long you got to enjoy her.
lindy-lou it was a really good hunt! I am so happy we were able to find some things for you... It has been really something to see other relatives join in...Wish we could have helped DaProudlove more with her hunt, with 2 Home Children to look for... all the best, J.J.
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Hi JJ
me and daproudlove are still on the search for information on the children one of these days hopefully it will all fall into place.... :)