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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: madpants on Wednesday 03 October 07 17:27 BST (UK)
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I have an album that was owned by my 'Great Aunt' from when she was a VAD in the Barrack Hospital, Ashton Under Lyne, most are dated 1915.
There are ditties,drawings, accounts of their war so far or just a signature, depending on what the soldier wanted to write.
I am transcribing the name, rank, number and regiment where they have written them and a ? denotes I can't read it too well. If anyone recognises a name as theirs I will send you a transcription and photograph of the relevant page.
2582 Bds W R Joliffe 1st Manchester Regiment
7777 Pte George Sherwin 1st Royal Berkshire Regiment
4981 Rfn James Kane 1st Kings Royal Rifles
8604 Cpl Samuel Lee 1st Manchester Regiment
7403 L/Cpl W Matthews 1st Dorsetshire Regiment
8607 Pte C Depree 1st South Staffs Regiment
3090 Pte J Christie 1st Black Watch R H
9482 Pte E Lynott 1st Connaught Rangers
1108 Pte J G Hill 2nd Durham Light Infantry
L/Cpl F West 1st PA Somerset Light Infantry
Pte J Onley 1st Manchester Regiment
Pte L Bell 1st Northumberland Fusiliers
Pte Sid Tavener 1st East Lancs Reg 4th Division
L/Cpl J Whattam RWK Regiment
8175 Pte J H Smith 2nd Leicester Regiment
3504 L/Cpl H McCarthy 1st LNL Regiment
2780 J Roberts 1st Manchester Regiment
9138 Pte E Sheridan 2nd Manchester Regiment
3100? Sergt H E Holt 2nd Manchester Regiment
Sergt H Chadwick 2nd Manchester Regiment
Sergt Dewhurst Manchesters
Pte Robert Anderson Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
A Tickle? 1st Manchester Regiment
2151 F Tattersall 4th Manchester Regiment
L/Cpl F Barnes 1st Worcestershire Regiment
2887 Pte James Bird 1st Manchester Regiment
Pte F Rutherford Liverpool Scottish
A W Jones 1st Manchester Regiment
Pte Wilfred E Holt RAMC
Pte T Oliver 3rd Manchester Regiment
Lt Arthur Thompson RAMC
Lt J Leacroft Worcestershire Regiment
Pte J Pettigrew 1st Cameron Highlanders
Pte W P Jones 2nd West Yorkshire Regiment
2597 Pte W Swindells 3rd Manchester Regiment
9377 Pte C Chapman 1st Kings Liverpool Regiment
8797 Pte A L Payne 3rd Manchester Regiment
Cpl Issy Smith VC 1st Manchester Regiment (with photos & medal ribbons)
Capt William Macbean Depot Manchester Regiment
13438 Pte William Connor 11th Manchester regiment
L/Cpl William McDougall 1st Seaforth Highlanders
2161 Pte F Holt 1st Manchester Regiment
8649 Pte J Hambleton 2nd Manchester Regiment
Pte Donald H Cox RAMC
W Barton East Lancashire Regiment (twice)
12916 Drv W Stewart Ammunition Column R ? A Late Seaforth Highlanders
Fred L Parry Liverpool Scottish (with photo)
27630 Pte J R Ecksley RAMC (with photo)
Sergt G Edmonds 1st Manchester Regiment
Cornellissen Jules 1st Regement Le Chasseur et Cheval Belgique
2672 Pte Joseph Briggs 2nd Manchester Regiment
W W Ruan? 12th Manchester Regiment
Pte F Mc Airey 1st Manchester Regiment
9106 Sergt J Hogan VC 2nd Manchester Regiment
8042 Harry Newman 2nd Manchester Regiment (Canadian)
8772 Rfn W James 2nd H? RR
L/Cpl W B Poole (Band) 1st Manchester Regiment (with photo)
Pte C Hughes 1st Manchester Regiment India Contingent (with photo)
Pte Herbert Spencer Manchester Regiment
Tom Gordon 3rd Manchester Regiment
Charles Bossaert Regiment de Ligne 1 Battiolon 1 Comy
Pte F Davis 2nd Queens Royal West Surreys
Pte J Parydon? The Cameronians
Cpl J Strickland Manchester Regiment (with address. 5 page account)
Pte F Daw? 2nd Queens Regiment
J Wilkinson RAMC
L/Cpl G Wm Mace 2nd Manchester Regiment
Cpl J Johnson 1st Manchester Regiment
Nursing Staff at Barracks Hospital
Sister Kitty Chambers
Sister Edith Ingham
Sister Beatrice Bates (& death notice of Major H C Bates)
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Issy Smiths page complete with medal ribbons!
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Oh Wow .... wait till Harribobs sees that !! ;D
What a treasure Madpants !! ..... that's wonderful !
OK now I'm going to check if any of mine are there !! ::) ::) ::) ::)
Annie :)
EDIT .... NO ! :'(
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What a pity Annie, it must be such a thrill to find one of yours on something like this....unfortunately I never have :(
I was asked to post this on http://www../forum/index.php so I have ;D
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That's Harribobs site !! ;D
I bet he's jumping up and down !! ( well he probably won't admit it !! ::) )
Thanks for sharing it ........ I love that stuff !
Annie :)
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I'm just hoping someone who has got a name on the list sees it!
It's great actually reading them. If I get chance I might transcribe a couple on this thread just for the interest. :)
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Madpants,
Lost for words, the list is amazing and that tantalising page of the album is just so fantastic. Obviously your great aunt cared deeply for her charges and you are keeping that tradition alive. Unfortunately I do not know the names of the people I am looking for except that the fatalities were recorded at Gorton Monastery but the memorial stolen or vandalised. I have no idea about the casualties who may be included in your Grt aunts album, but they well be there.
Will resume the Mallalieu hunt when location of plot comes through.
Best wishes
Tony
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Madpants - great list, pity that my Dad ain't on it. Have you thought of posting it on the Great War Forum? http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/
Tony, I thought the name Mallalieu rang a bell when I read it and it does. Henry (Harry) Mallalieu was a pal of my Dad's in Spotland Rochdale. They were both in the CLB at St Clements and (I think) joined up together with a few other blokes - their numbers were pretty close. Dad's was C/516 and Harry's C/515. They also were in the same CLB football team of which I have a photo. I hope after all that that he is one of yours.
Let me know.
Bob
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Hi Bob,
He's not one of mine. He's one of Madpants Mallallieus from Mossley :) Close enough to be of interest though :)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,255020.0.html
Best wishes
Tony
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Thank you Tony......it's sooo exciting!! ;D ;D
Bob, he may well be one of my Mallalieus but I haven't investigated the siblings of my GGG Grandfather yet to know if he's one of theirs :-\
It's a fantastic album, she kept a diary when she was in France that I transcribed years ago but I can't remember what's in it :( nothing major, I know that :)
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Hi Madpants (luv that name) & Tony
Just out of curiosity I trawled through the census, only the free searches as I don't have any subscriptions, and found the following which may or may not lead to Harry being one of yours.
1901
Living in Spotland
James W 47 b. Ovenden Yorks
Mary E 30
Ethel 7
Florence 6
Harry 4
Bertha 3
Tom 1
Eliza 79 b. Littleborough, Lancs (James W mother)
1901
Also living in Spotland a brother to James W
Fred 42 b, Hebden Bridge, Yorks
Sarah 39
James F 10
1891 - Could not find any reference
1881
James W, Mary E and Eliza living at 1 Rooley Moor Rd, Spotland
1871
James W living Spotland with father James, b. 1823 Soyland, Yorks, and mother Eliza.
1861
James & Eliza living in Yorks
1851
James living with father Joseph, b. 1804 Yorks, in Yorks
I can't vouch totally for all that but if it does give you a sniff to some long lost branch of the Mallalieus then good.
If you think Harry may be connected I have a couple of transcripts from the Rochdale Observer where he is mentioned.
Cheers
Bob
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Issy Smiths page complete with medal ribbons!
my word that is amazing!
thanks for posting it on the manchesters site!
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Private Sheridan as he wrote it. (Place names may be wrong due to the writing ) only the (?) are mine
9138 Pte E Sheridan 2nd Manchester's Regt 3/1/15
Arrived at Harve went to La Cauter (?) by train via Rouen and Amiens then marched to Landrecies (?) billeted one day and night in a haystack. Next morning marched to St Waste out post duty one night then marched across the Belgium frontier to Hainin (Mons) billeted all night next morning heard enemies guns and engaged them in the afternoon (saturday) was fighting till 1.30 Monday morning then retired on to (Dour) bringing the women and children with us from the villages the enemy shelling us all the way, the sight I do not want to see again what few we got away safe was sent down country. I could not say what became of them left I suppose killed as usual, we then engaged the enemy at (Dour) fought all day then retired to (Bavay) fighting continued heavy shell which we was cut off we retired again and marched all day arrived at Omissy (?) (Cambrice (?)) at midnight received first rations for 3 days marched out and tooked position with reforcements at 4am next morning engaged the enemy at (La Caute) till late in the afternoon and retired with terrible losses 790 men and 17 officers and recieved orders for every man to look to himself and get away best way he could. Came down country came down country in ones and two arrived at St Quentin. Next morning the enemy following and shelling the villages as we left them rumoured out that St Quentin was surrounded by the enemy received orders to get away as quick as possible started for La Fere arrived next morning stopped all day entrained at midnight arrived Rouen and sent back into the lines of communication for 3 weeks which I was alright till my illness then sent to St Nazaire hospital
yours truly
E Sheridan
(mark)
(he didn't believe in using too much punctuation )
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Absolutely fabulous, so sad yet so heroic. If you want any help with transcriptions and can scan some pages I would be only too delighted to assist.
thanks
tony
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Hello Madpants,
I'm not a regular contributor to this forum, but a friend led me to this post. I run a website all about Tameside Local and Family History and have a few other items concerning WWl on my page including the names of 300 men missing from the war memorial in Stalybridge and lists of returned prisoners of war and would be willing to add your post and the list of names to my site to bring it to the attention of other people. These items would be such treasures for relatives.
It would also be wonderful if eventually you thought of donating this or a facsimile to Tameside Local Studies and Archives Library to add to their Manchester Regiment Archive for future generations - just to make sure it never gets thrown away.
very best wishes,
GAY
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I don't have any relatives on your list but was nonetheless felt emotionally 'choked up' on seeing it and the thought that some folk will be very happy indeed should they come across it.
Like Bob (Rochdalian), I'm sure the Great War Forum people would really appreciate seeing your tremendous information. :D
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Just spotted '8042 Harry Newman 2nd Manchester Regiment (Canadian)' on your post. I'm pretty sure it's my great uncle and was wondering if I could get a copy of the page? What an amazing historical document you have. I'm still trying to find out more about my great uncle but just recently discovered that he sustained shrapnel injuries during action on Hill 60 in April of 1915.
Best wishes
Maxine
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I have just seen this post. My Great Uncle is on your list
Harry Newman reg number 8042 Manchester regiment ( Canada ).
Uncle Harry was recalled at start of WW1 from Canada where he had emigrated to from England. He was an Army reservist. We know he sailed to England in 1914 when War broke out and he was active on the Western front where he was injured. He had a glass eye and we think he lost a leg / legs as this was reported in a local newspaper on his return to Canada.
Would be very grateful and hopeful to hear from you re: the album however I am aware it is some years ago when this was posted.
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Truly.amazing
I dont have any of these names but wondered if anyone has identified family of Izzy Smith ...many.jewish families anglisizaed their surnames or chose one related to their profession or a random name
I wonder where his ancestors came from and what their original surname was .They must have been proud
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According to Wikipedia :Smith was originally "Ishroulch Shmeilowitz (and other renderings), to parents residing in Egypt"."The son of French citizens Moses and Eva Shmeilowitz, who were of Russian Jewish origin"
Some time after the War he emigrated to Australia.
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Hi, just seen this and rediscovered the album, two asking for the same man so I have photographed his album page.
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Thanks so much for uploading Harry Neumann's page. That's him, Great Uncle Harry (born Heinrich Neumann 1855 - in Buxton). The family later settled in Birkenhead. Harry later moved to Canada. Since finding your post I managed to make contact with a Canadian cousin, Harry's great granddaughter - and - she had this amazing photo of him!
Thanks for your help and sharing the album.
Much appreciated.
Maxine