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Title: WILLIAM WOOSNAM of CERI 1780-82
Post by: Old Mother Reilly on Thursday 04 October 07 21:01 BST (UK)
I am looking for further information about the origins of my 4xgt grandfather William Woosnam who farmed in the Welsh/Shropshire borders.

William Woosnam married Sarah Chilmick in Shrewsbury St. Chads in 1805 (Pallots).  I have found William in the 1841 and 51 censuses: Sarah died in 1826.

I would like to know if any more experienced Woosnam researcher has come across a William Woosnam, originally born in Ceri around 1780-82, about whom nothing else is known.  I suspect William was a junior son, possibly from a farming family, whose parents may have been called Robert and/or Mary.

Any hints as to possible leads would be most gratefully received.

Thank you.

Rachel



Title: Re: WILLIAM WOOSNAM of CERI 1780-82
Post by: JGDavies on Saturday 19 July 14 13:48 BST (UK)
Hi Rachel,
I was scanning through the forum listing yesterday and the name Woosnam stuck with me. Today whilst looking through an online list of Powys Family History 'strays' from for Hugheses I came across a William Woosnam witness to a Hughes wedding:
Name: Sarah Jenkins
Location: Mochdre Montgomeryshire
Record Type: Marriage
Date: 1832
Information: Thomas Jenkins of Kerry Bach married Sarah Hughes, Spinster, Of this Parish, On 29 Sept 1832, with Witness William Woosnam.
Ref: [None given].
On searching the list contains 26 Woosnam strays - Hope it's of interest.
Regards
Jonathan

See: http://www.powysfhs.org.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Powys_Strays_Index.pdf


Title: Re: WILLIAM WOOSNAM of CERI 1780-82
Post by: Alberbury on Friday 01 May 15 23:28 BST (UK)
http://www.mocavo.com/Collections-Historical-Archaeological-Relating-to-Montgomeryshire-and-Its-Borders-Volume-19-2/577721/227#227

Page 185   Bowen to Woosnam
Title: Re: WILLIAM WOOSNAM of CERI 1780-82
Post by: Old Mother Reilly on Friday 15 May 15 12:16 BST (UK)
Thank you, Alberbury - I'll have a close look at that.  :)
Title: Re: WILLIAM WOOSNAM of CERI 1780-82
Post by: AussieGirl????? on Sunday 02 August 15 07:24 BST (UK)
Hi Rachel,
I am only new to RootsChat and given the age of you post, you may have additional information you were after, to which I am probably not able to add any more. I am not a descendant of William WOOSNAM but I am a descendant of Evan WOOSNAM (b1796-1800 d 1864). Evan WOOSNAM married Anne CHILMICK in 1823. I have noticed that spelling changes between CHILMICK and CHELMICK. Somehwere along the line I think there must be links between William and Evan WOOSNAM and Sarah and Anne CHILMICK? To date I haven't been able to find such links. Have you been able to confirm William's parents?
Cheers Deb
Title: Re: WILLIAM WOOSNAM of CERI 1780-82
Post by: Alberbury on Sunday 02 August 15 15:22 BST (UK)
http://www.davidgore.co.uk/familygroup.php?familyID=F49&tree=Gores

Sarah Chelmick  baptism at   http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/Chirbury.html
Title: Re: WILLIAM WOOSNAM of CERI 1780-82
Post by: Alberbury on Sunday 02 August 15 15:31 BST (UK)
http://www.davidgore.co.uk/getperson.php?personID=I536&tree=Gores
Title: Re: WILLIAM WOOSNAM of CERI 1780-82
Post by: Wales girl on Saturday 24 October 15 20:57 BST (UK)
Hi, Although I am not related to William Woosnam of Ceri 1780-82, I am related to Evan Woosnam who was born 1800 in Mainstone, and married Anne Chelmick.  I see that you are also and would be interested to know which of Evan's children is your ancestor.
Title: Re: WILLIAM WOOSNAM of CERI 1780-82
Post by: AussieGirl????? on Sunday 25 October 15 00:09 BST (UK)
Hi Wales Girl,
Sorry to disappoint but I am not descended from one of Evan & Annes children but rather from Cecil Clarence WOOSNAM who is a child of Evan's from his second mariage to Elizabeth WILLIAMS. But have included all Evan's children in my research which has led me off on many tangents and my initial question on the chat line.
CHeers
Aussie Girl
Title: Re: WILLIAM WOOSNAM of CERI 1780-82
Post by: Alberbury on Sunday 25 October 15 01:40 BST (UK)
http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/StChadShrewsburyPart2.html

1780 Feb. 4. Woosnam, Jane, d. of John & Mary. Born the 15th ... chr.


http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/StChadShrewsburyPart1.html

1639  Apr. 27. Mr. Thomas Chelmeck, Esquier ... bur.

Just misses the years you are after.
Title: Re: WILLIAM WOOSNAM of CERI 1780-82
Post by: AussieGirl????? on Sunday 25 October 15 02:38 GMT (UK)
Thanks Alberbury. The 1639 Thomas Chelmeck information is new to me. I haven't had time to see where the Jane Woosnam information fits in with what I have.
Title: Re: WILLIAM WOOSNAM of CERI 1780-82
Post by: Alberbury on Sunday 25 October 15 20:22 GMT (UK)
http://www.davidgore.co.uk/getperson.php?personID=I151&tree=Gores

Sarah CHELMICK, daughter of Thomas CHELMICK and Anne PHILLIPS, was born in 1782 (estimated). She was baptised on 27 April 1782 in Chirbury.2 She married William WOOSNAM on 28 December 1805 in St. Chad. She died on 21 November 1826 in Trelystan, MGY.3 She was buried in Trelystan.


Title: Re: WILLIAM WOOSNAM of CERI 1780-82
Post by: Alberbury on Sunday 25 October 15 20:36 GMT (UK)
https://archive.org/stream/collectionshisto19powyuoft/collectionshisto19powyuoft_djvu.txt

Welshpool.  199

17th October 1741. Will of Thomas Powell of Llivior mentions
his wife and three daughters Rebecca, wife of Thomas Jones, Mary,
and Martha. Recites indenture of lease and re-lease, dated 24th and
25th September 1 706, the latter made between the testator as "Thomas
Powell of Llivior, gentleman, of the first part ; Thomas Cowdale of
Bettws, gent., of the second part ; Thomas Chelmick of Forden,
gent., and Thomas Cowdale of Berriew, gent., of the third part;
and that the testator, in consideration of a marriage intended
between the testator and Mary Cowdale, daughter of Thomas Cow-
dale of Bettws, did settle the Capital Messuage of his in the occupa-
tion of Richard David Proger, formerly three messuages, to the uses
therein mentioned, subject to a proviso for raising money for younger
children, subject to his power of appointment, which he thereby
exercised."

Thomas Chelmick of Forden, gent. this is a connection. Due to both locations and rarity of surname.

Chirbury  1705  June 28. Thomas, f. Thome Chelmick, yeoman, et Elizabethae ... bap.
http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/Chirbury.html

Title: Re: WILLIAM WOOSNAM of CERI 1780-82
Post by: Alberbury on Sunday 25 October 15 20:42 GMT (UK)
Chirbury  1705  June 28. Thomas, f. Thome Chelmick, yeoman, et Elizabethae ... bap.

http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/Worthen.html

1699 Mar. 1. Abigal, f. Thom. Chelmick et Elizab. uxoris ... bap.
1702 Feb. 6. Hana, f. Thom Chelmick, agricol., et Elizabetha uxoris ... bap.

+ 28 other Chelmick's
Title: Re: WILLIAM WOOSNAM of CERI 1780-82
Post by: AussieGirl????? on Monday 26 October 15 07:33 GMT (UK)
Thank you Alberbury. You have been busy. Long weekend coming up giving me plenty of time absorb your information.