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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Montgomeryshire => Topic started by: Old Mother Reilly on Thursday 04 October 07 21:01 BST (UK)
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I am looking for further information about the origins of my 4xgt grandfather William Woosnam who farmed in the Welsh/Shropshire borders.
William Woosnam married Sarah Chilmick in Shrewsbury St. Chads in 1805 (Pallots). I have found William in the 1841 and 51 censuses: Sarah died in 1826.
I would like to know if any more experienced Woosnam researcher has come across a William Woosnam, originally born in Ceri around 1780-82, about whom nothing else is known. I suspect William was a junior son, possibly from a farming family, whose parents may have been called Robert and/or Mary.
Any hints as to possible leads would be most gratefully received.
Thank you.
Rachel
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Hi Rachel,
I was scanning through the forum listing yesterday and the name Woosnam stuck with me. Today whilst looking through an online list of Powys Family History 'strays' from for Hugheses I came across a William Woosnam witness to a Hughes wedding:
Name: Sarah Jenkins
Location: Mochdre Montgomeryshire
Record Type: Marriage
Date: 1832
Information: Thomas Jenkins of Kerry Bach married Sarah Hughes, Spinster, Of this Parish, On 29 Sept 1832, with Witness William Woosnam.
Ref: [None given].
On searching the list contains 26 Woosnam strays - Hope it's of interest.
Regards
Jonathan
See: http://www.powysfhs.org.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Powys_Strays_Index.pdf
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http://www.mocavo.com/Collections-Historical-Archaeological-Relating-to-Montgomeryshire-and-Its-Borders-Volume-19-2/577721/227#227
Page 185 Bowen to Woosnam
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Thank you, Alberbury - I'll have a close look at that. :)
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Hi Rachel,
I am only new to RootsChat and given the age of you post, you may have additional information you were after, to which I am probably not able to add any more. I am not a descendant of William WOOSNAM but I am a descendant of Evan WOOSNAM (b1796-1800 d 1864). Evan WOOSNAM married Anne CHILMICK in 1823. I have noticed that spelling changes between CHILMICK and CHELMICK. Somehwere along the line I think there must be links between William and Evan WOOSNAM and Sarah and Anne CHILMICK? To date I haven't been able to find such links. Have you been able to confirm William's parents?
Cheers Deb
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http://www.davidgore.co.uk/familygroup.php?familyID=F49&tree=Gores
Sarah Chelmick baptism at http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/Chirbury.html
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http://www.davidgore.co.uk/getperson.php?personID=I536&tree=Gores
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Hi, Although I am not related to William Woosnam of Ceri 1780-82, I am related to Evan Woosnam who was born 1800 in Mainstone, and married Anne Chelmick. I see that you are also and would be interested to know which of Evan's children is your ancestor.
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Hi Wales Girl,
Sorry to disappoint but I am not descended from one of Evan & Annes children but rather from Cecil Clarence WOOSNAM who is a child of Evan's from his second mariage to Elizabeth WILLIAMS. But have included all Evan's children in my research which has led me off on many tangents and my initial question on the chat line.
CHeers
Aussie Girl
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http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/StChadShrewsburyPart2.html
1780 Feb. 4. Woosnam, Jane, d. of John & Mary. Born the 15th ... chr.
http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/StChadShrewsburyPart1.html
1639 Apr. 27. Mr. Thomas Chelmeck, Esquier ... bur.
Just misses the years you are after.
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Thanks Alberbury. The 1639 Thomas Chelmeck information is new to me. I haven't had time to see where the Jane Woosnam information fits in with what I have.
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http://www.davidgore.co.uk/getperson.php?personID=I151&tree=Gores
Sarah CHELMICK, daughter of Thomas CHELMICK and Anne PHILLIPS, was born in 1782 (estimated). She was baptised on 27 April 1782 in Chirbury.2 She married William WOOSNAM on 28 December 1805 in St. Chad. She died on 21 November 1826 in Trelystan, MGY.3 She was buried in Trelystan.
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https://archive.org/stream/collectionshisto19powyuoft/collectionshisto19powyuoft_djvu.txt
Welshpool. 199
17th October 1741. Will of Thomas Powell of Llivior mentions
his wife and three daughters Rebecca, wife of Thomas Jones, Mary,
and Martha. Recites indenture of lease and re-lease, dated 24th and
25th September 1 706, the latter made between the testator as "Thomas
Powell of Llivior, gentleman, of the first part ; Thomas Cowdale of
Bettws, gent., of the second part ; Thomas Chelmick of Forden,
gent., and Thomas Cowdale of Berriew, gent., of the third part;
and that the testator, in consideration of a marriage intended
between the testator and Mary Cowdale, daughter of Thomas Cow-
dale of Bettws, did settle the Capital Messuage of his in the occupa-
tion of Richard David Proger, formerly three messuages, to the uses
therein mentioned, subject to a proviso for raising money for younger
children, subject to his power of appointment, which he thereby
exercised."
Thomas Chelmick of Forden, gent. this is a connection. Due to both locations and rarity of surname.
Chirbury 1705 June 28. Thomas, f. Thome Chelmick, yeoman, et Elizabethae ... bap.
http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/Chirbury.html
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Chirbury 1705 June 28. Thomas, f. Thome Chelmick, yeoman, et Elizabethae ... bap.
http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/Worthen.html
1699 Mar. 1. Abigal, f. Thom. Chelmick et Elizab. uxoris ... bap.
1702 Feb. 6. Hana, f. Thom Chelmick, agricol., et Elizabetha uxoris ... bap.
+ 28 other Chelmick's
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Thank you Alberbury. You have been busy. Long weekend coming up giving me plenty of time absorb your information.