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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Berkshire => Topic started by: maxdog on Tuesday 09 October 07 21:30 BST (UK)
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George DORSETT (b1874 Reading) m Mary White MILAM (b1880, Finchampstead) in Reading in 1906.
George died in Wallingford in 1909. Can anyone tell me anything at all about Mary or her family? I believe she was the daughter of George and Mary MILAM of Finchampstead.
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I can find no birth reg for a Mary White Milam??
Do you have the marriage cert?
How are you certain she was born 1880 Finchampstead?
Suz
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Hello
Have not got marriage cert but entry on BMD for marriage December 1906. There are quite a lot of MILAMS in Finchampstead but Mary b1880 belongs to the family of George b1843, Finchampstead and Mary Unknown (Poss WHITE?) b1856 Winkfield, Berks - or at least she appears to; she is the best Mary on offer on the census entries I have looked at. The census entry states Mary b abt. 1880 Finchampstead.
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Have you had mary's details off 1891 census ?
Lists children as harry, mary, Annie, henry, Mary 11,Kate 10, Ada 9, Bill 7, Francis 2, Stephen 1
I cannot find this family in 1881 or 1901????
Althugh the head of household is transcribed as George Milan, if you look closely at the image of 1891 his name looks more like Henry??????
Any opinion on this???
Suz
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Ah. That would explain a lot. I will have a look now. Thanks, will get back to you.
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That should teach me not to rely on transcriptions. You are right, it is Henry. Note to everyone out there ALWAYS LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL. I should know this, having spent weeks looking for a missing wife from a transcription only to discover from the original - eventually - that she had never been there at all.
Thanks very much for your help. I am in touch with someone form Henry's family. I am sure he will help fill in any further gaps. Thanks Suzard.
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Further queries on Mary if anyone can help.
Free BMD : Born June 1879 - Milam Mary, Wokingham 2c 389
1881 census - with parents Henry and Mary at 16 Red Lake, Finchampstead
1891 census - with parents, father mistranscribed as Georg.
1901 - servant in Great Amwell, Herts with Jephson family.
1906 - Mary White MILAM m George DORSETT, Reading
1909 - George died in Wallingford
There are 2 possible re-marriages for Mary, in her widowed name of DORSETT.
Both in 1910, both in Windsor either to to Sidney F KEEN or to George TANNER. Both references Vol 2c page 959.
Any information welcomed - these marriages may not be of Mary MILAM at all - if anyone can confirm or otherwise, I would be most grateful.
Many thanks
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In case you are confused someone born in Finchampstead would be registered in Wokingham district. Whereas Winkfield is in Windsor registration District and Wallingford is a registration district.
David
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i am very confused - but a little less so now - thank you. Does anyone know if there is a map - oline - that shows registration districts in south of England?
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The following site list the places in each registration district.
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/
Send me a PM if you have a particular problem with Berkshire. I live in the area that you are searching.
David
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That is v useful indeed - thank you - have bookmarked it for future ref.
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Here is what I have on Mary Milam. Marriage to George Horton on Dec 24, 1917 in Ash, Surre. She is listed as Mary Tanner (widow) father (Henry Milam Deceased). She immigrated to Canada with George and her son Edwin Milam who was known to the family as Edwin Dorset.
Not sure if this is the same Mary, but a lot of the names match up.
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George DORSETT (b1874 Reading) m Mary White MILAM (b1880, Finchampstead) in Reading in 1906.
George died in Wallingford in 1909. Can anyone tell me anything at all about Mary or her family? I believe she was the daughter of George and Mary MILAM of Finchampstead.
Hello,
I can't help with Mary Milham but I can tell you where George Dorsett died. It wasn't in Wallingford itself but in Cholsey. I have him on my tree but I do not have a marriage for him. His father came from Princes Risborough in Bucks and his mother was one of the huge Nash family from Aldermaston. If you send me a private mail I will give you details of George Dorsett's burial.
Regards
Vicwinann
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Hello
Have not got marriage cert but entry on BMD for marriage December 1906. There are quite a lot of MILAMS in Finchampstead but Mary b1880 belongs to the family of George b1843, Finchampstead and Mary Unknown (Poss WHITE?) b1856 Winkfield, Berks - or at least she appears to; she is the best Mary on offer on the census entries I have looked at. The census entry states Mary b abt. 1880 Finchampstead.
Hello again,
In order to know for sure which of the two men, George Dorsett or William Brayne, that Mary White Milham married, you must get the certificate or find a Parish Register marriage. Otherwise you are guessing and whistling in the wind, I am afraid. George Dorsett could have married Matilda Goodenough.
From the posting by MrsPooh it sounds like Mary might have married George Dorsett, but you need proof. An Edwin Milham was born in 1901 in Windsor reg dist (covers Winkfield) who could be an illeg son of Mary, but again only "could." You need the certificates.
Regards
Vicwinann
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I have the birth certificate for Edwin Milam born 8 Jan 1901 which does not list a father but Mary Milam as the mother.
When Mary immigrated to Canada, her brother Frank Milam (listed as her destination location) was already living in Ontario. The research done on Frank in Ontario includes a birth (Feb 2, 1887) in Wokingham, Berkshire, England in his military records.
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Hello Vicwinnan and Mrs Pooh.
I started this query after I noticed George's marriage to Mary when I was in Berks Records Office looking for something else. It was a surprise to me, I had not known he was married, nor that he had died so early in life. He was my grandmother's (Fanny Dorsett) only brother and her son was named after him.
I would be very grateful Vic if you are able to give me any more info on George's death, especially burial place and date. If you are related to the Nashes, I have a photo that is of, I believe, Henry Nash and his wife, George and Fanny's aunt and uncle. You are welcome to a copy of it.
I hope to hear from you. Thanks and best wishes.
Pat W
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Have just remembered. George's youngest sister, Nellie (b1883, Reading m Tom Morgan) also emigrated to Canada in 1912. Is there a connection here? Can anyone tell me?
Pat W
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Listed below is the Milam family that I understand Mary came from. I think Mrs Pooh and I are at cross purposes?
HENRY MILAM (HENRY3, WILLIAM2, HENRY1) was born 1849 in FINCHAMPSTEAD BERKSHIRE. He married MARY A. -?-. She was born 1851 in WINKFIELD BERKSHIRE.
Notes for HENRY MILAM:
1881: Agrilcultural Labourer, Red Lake, Wokingham, Berkshire.
1891: General Labourer, No3, Bud-?- Cottage, Wokingham, Berks.
1901: 13 Rose Street, Wokingham, Berks
Children of HENRY MILAM and MARY -?- are:
142 i. ANN5 MILAM, born 1877 in FINCHAMPSTEAD BERKS.
143 ii. HENRY MILAM, born 1878 in FINCHAMPSTEAD BERKS.
144 iii. MARY MILAM, born 1879 in FINCHAMPSTEAD BERKS. She married GEORGE WILLIAM DORSETT 1906 in READING BERKS; born 1873 in READING BERKS; died 1909 in WALLINGFORD BERKS..
145 iv. KATE MILAM, born 1882 in WOKINGHAM BERKS.
146 v. ADA MILAM, born 1883 in WOKINGHAM BERKS.
147 vi. WILLIAM MILAM, born 1885 in WOKINGHAM BERKS.
Notes for WILLIAM MILAM: Joined Royal Artillery 1 Nov 1901 as Boy Solider
148 vii. FRANCIS MILAM, born 1888 in WOKINGHAM BERKS.
149 viii. STEPHEN MILAM, born 1889 in WOKINGHAM BERKS.
150 ix. CAROLINE MILAM, born 1893 in WOKINGHAM BERKS.
151 x. EMILY MILAM, born 1894 in BINFIELD BERKS.
152 xi. JOSEPH MILAM, born 1898 in EASTHAMPSTEAD BERKS.
Pat W
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Hello Pat
George Dorsett was one of six children, Fanny being the youngest.
He is buried 16th Sept 1909 Cholsey Lunatic Asylum Burial Ground which is in the Wallingford Registration District.
I am very distantly related by marriage to the Nash family via my paternal Sellwoods but I have done a lot of work on them because they are so complicated.
I do also have Milam/Milham/Mileham/Millam families from the Wokingham area on my tree but not that particular family.
Regards
Vicwinann
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Hello Vic
Thank you very much for your reply. Poor George, that doesn't sound like much of a way to end ones days - and he was relatively young. Do you have any more information that you would be comfortable passing on to us? To save potential embarassment to anyone, my sister and I are the only descendants of Eliza (Nash) and William Dorsett, and a public forum is fine for us.
3 of their children- Eliza Rose, George and Nellie - did not have children. Marian died in infancy. Emily's 2 children, I believe, did not marry. Fanny had 2 children; her daughter, our mother Winfired Rose, had the two of us. Fanny was born in 1877 and the youngest, Nellie, in 1883, 2 years after Marian's death.
We are v grateful indeed for the information you have given to us. If you know of any records in which we could folow G's story, I would be glad to know.
Thank you so much for your help.
Pat Williamson and Dianne Kenny
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Hello,
I don't know for sure, but I think that Cholsey Asylum records are held at Berkshire Record Office. Either there or they will be at Oxford.
You might be able to glean something from them. Reasons for admission/death etc.
It is outside the 100 year rule so there shouldn't be any difficulty.
I don't have any more info other than his father was buried 1896 in London Rd Cemetery Reading, his mother in 1910 at Chieveley St Marys along with George's sister, Rose Eliza, in 1951.
Marian Rachel is buried 1881 Reading London Rd. age 1
I didn't follow George's father back because the link is so very distant from me, but I have just looked and have found in the Bucks fhs cd that he was in Great Kimble
Longdown Farm Gt Kimble
In home of Abel and Sarah Redrup
William Dorsett 20 Farm lab indoor servant Princes Risborough
Hope this is useful.
Regards
Vicwinann
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Thank you so much Vic. We have been looking for Rose Eliza's burial for about eighteen months and to find she is at Chievely, along with mother (and probably sister Emily also, she lived at Chievely) is most welcome news.
I will try Berks recs for further info on George. I have lots of early Dorsett info from Bucks - it was the later Reading generation that was proving to be most elusive. Again, we are v grateful indeed and I expect that our weekend wuill be spent in Chievely. I cannot thank you enough. Best wishes. Pat W
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Recently acquired my Mary Milam death certificate. Parents were listed as Harry Milam and Mary Ann Corker. I understand that death record information is not always accurate.
I am still plowing through information.
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That sounds right for Mary who married George Dorsett. The Dorsett family in Princes Risborough was large, George Dorsett's father William was the eldest of 10, yet there are few descendants, so glad to know there was at least one more child. I hope he was ok.
Thanks for updating me.
Pat W
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Hi pat w
I'm the grandson of eleanor emily milam born easthampstead 1895, I have found researching this strand of the milam's, difficult I couldnt find any 1891 or 1901 census but I found William emily Caroline frank and Joseph on the school register with there address saying they lived at the union workhouse at binfield/easthampstead, I've requested eleanor emily milam birth certificate which i am eagerly awaiting, I am hoping Henry milam is the father born Finchampstead 1849 even though his court prison records are shocking if they are his, I haven't been able to match up the other members ada ann a though my mum seems to remember an auntie ada before emily was taken into hospital with mental health issues never to come out again, where we're the family living in 1881 ?? I'm rearching on find my past,
Kind regards richard
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Looking again it is possible that Henry and Mary had the additional children before 1881 census Henry was in prison for nearly a year and there is a gap where no children were born,if eleanor emily milams birth certificate states that I will request earlier certificates of ada and Kate,
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I recieved my granmothers birth certificate eleanor emily milam born easthampstead berkshire 1895 it states her father was Henry and her mothers maiden name was mary weston, I'm still unconvinced that Henry and Mary a had 11 children but I think I will request ada and kates birth certificate, I can't find a marriage certificate for Henry milam and mary Weston-super-Mare so far,